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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 1.0 One-Click image

by laurent laffont

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 9:17 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > We need a script to build one click images. > We need a hudson server to build click images. > > But we do not have the time. > So anybody that want to help can. > > Stef > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:06 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Any reason to not use > http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386.tar.gzbinaries ? IMHO we should. > > We wanted to get out > And we did not know if this wm really work. > And we waited too long > And we can do a 1.0.1 soon. > > > Here's an updated One Click image which uses vm 4.0.3.2202 > http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip > > Cool but is it stable? > On a production server I don't know. As an hobbyist user, yes :). All tests green. I agree we need more feedback. But to have feedback we need to publish it... arggh.. at least update the link to this VM on Pharo website ? Laurent Laffont > > > > > Can we get rid of the __MACOSX folder in all .zip put on Pharo website ? > I'm tired of deleting them :) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Laurent Laffont > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26828/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip > > > > -- > > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 1.0 One-Click image

by Adrian Lienhard

Laurent, thanks for pushing! We decided against upgrading to the newest Linux VM because it was just released the other day. I'd rather stick a while with the old one until we know the new one doesn't have any obvious glitches. So we should start using it but not put it into the official release. As Stef points out, we can do a 1.0.1 release with such upgrades if we don't want to wait for 1.1. It took us a long time to get 1.0 ready and in the future we should speed up our release cycles. Cheers, Adrian On Apr 15, 2010, at 09:17 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > We need a script to build one click images. > We need a hudson server to build click images. > > But we do not have the time. > So anybody that want to help can. > > Stef > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:06 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Any reason to not use http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386.tar.gz binaries ? IMHO we should. > > We wanted to get out > And we did not know if this wm really work. > And we waited too long > And we can do a 1.0.1 soon. > >> Here's an updated One Click image which uses vm 4.0.3.2202 http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip > > Cool but is it stable? > >> >> Can we get rid of the __MACOSX folder in all .zip put on Pharo website ? I'm tired of deleting them :) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Laurent Laffont >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26828/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 1.0 One-Click image

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

We need a script to build one click images. We need a hudson server to build click images. But we do not have the time. So anybody that want to help can. Stef On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:06 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > Any reason to not use http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386.tar.gz binaries ? IMHO we should. We wanted to get out And we did not know if this wm really work. And we waited too long And we can do a 1.0.1 soon. > Here's an updated One Click image which uses vm 4.0.3.2202 http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip Cool but is it stable? > > Can we get rid of the __MACOSX folder in all .zip put on Pharo website ? I'm tired of deleting them :) > > Cheers, > > Laurent Laffont > > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26828/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11314 : textEditor from CUIS

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

lukas please use pomodoro: 3 one PhD and one on Pharo :) >> Yeah, I really like the new editor. It is fast :-) > >> We integrated it so that other people can help and contribute. > > If I find time I might propose some changes to make it more extensible > (taking some ideas from Safara), e.g. to make shout and other tools > pluggable. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] Really Important message (tm)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys Let me reiterate it: - We need you! - 75 % of the issues on the bug tracker are simple. - BTW how did we learn stuff, by reading code and learning. I'm not smart I'm just a tedious learner I can any opportunity to learn something new. - if you spend 30 min a week, YOU CAN get an IMPACT! - if pharo is important for you then 30 min in a good investment - every single LITTLE bugs fixed and improvement is IMPORTANT - we do not want the final latest coolest superhyper cool and hyper clever fixes! - we accept little improvement - in UNSTABLE we have the right to push not 100% finish code Now think what YOU can do for pharo. Because Yes YOU can - screencast - checking tests (yesterday I moved CompiledMethodAsStringTest>>testPrint to CompiledMethodTest>>testPrint) Yeah hyper difficult - Class comments: look at the URI class comment - blogging - tweeting We should slowly change our process so that Pharo continue to evolve even if we disappear on the moon. Now I asked marcus to focus on the newcompiler and stop fixing little bugs because we want to make progress on other fronts. We want newcompiler - we want the newcompiler - we want the newcompiler and fixing it and fixing its interface. We want Helvetia hooks -We want Helvetia hooks. We want a new package object (but I do not find time to code argh). Stef

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11314 : textEditor from CUIS

by Lukas Renggli

> No no no this is not your mistake!!! Thanks for taking the time to push it to pharo instead > of selfishly keeping it for you. Yeah, I really like the new editor. It is fast :-) > We integrated it so that other people can help and contribute. If I find time I might propose some changes to make it more extensible (taking some ideas from Safara), e.g. to make shout and other tools pluggable. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11314 : textEditor from CUIS

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 15, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Fernando olivero wrote: > Also most of the bugs happen when trying to use the Cuis old code for system navigation. > > SmalltalkTextEditor methods for browsing senders, implementors and alike. > > Stef fixed a couple of them, today i fixed a couple more. publish it in the inbox so that I can integrate it and so that other people do not redo the same. > Tomorrow i'll post a slice with the fixes i've done this past week. > > Fernando > > On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Fernando olivero wrote: > >>> >>> >> >>> >> Now we should debug it. So please use them and we will find and fix the bugs. >>> >> >>> >> Stef >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Pharo-project mailing list >>> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11314 : textEditor from CUIS

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

No no no this is not your mistake!!! Thanks for taking the time to push it to pharo instead of selfishly keeping it for you. We integrated it so that other people can help and contribute. Everybody can help. Setf

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] 1.0 One-Click image

by laurent laffont

Hi, Any reason to not use http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-4.0.3.2202-linux_i386.tar.gzbinaries ? IMHO we should. Here's an updated One Click image which uses vm 4.0.3.2202 http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip Can we get rid of the __MACOSX folder in all .zip put on Pharo website ? I'm tired of deleting them :) Cheers, Laurent Laffont On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26828/Pharo-1.0-OneClick.zip > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11314 : textEditor from CUIS

by Fernando olivero

Also most of the bugs happen when trying to use the Cuis old code for system navigation. SmalltalkTextEditor methods for browsing senders, implementors and alike. Stef fixed a couple of them, today i fixed a couple more. Tomorrow i'll post a slice with the fixes i've done this past week. Fernando On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Fernando olivero wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Now we should debug it. So please use them and we will find and fix the bugs. >> >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >

April 14, 2010