April 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] FFI in 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi all Do we add FFI by default in 1.1? This was the plan so. Stef

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Really Important message (tm)

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

ok, my signed agreement is leaving today for France. I will try to start understanding how is the contribution process in Pharo and playing a bit with unstable. Unfortunately I've very little free time, but still, will try to help. Cheers. 2010/4/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Hi guys > > Let me reiterate it: > > Â Â Â Â - We need you! > Â Â Â Â - 75 % of the issues on the bug tracker are simple. > Â Â Â Â - BTW how did we learn stuff, by reading code and learning. I'm not smart I'm just a tedious learner > Â Â Â Â I can any opportunity to learn something new. > Â Â Â Â - if you spend 30 min a week, YOU CAN get an IMPACT! > Â Â Â Â - if pharo is important for you then 30 min in a good investment > Â Â Â Â - every single LITTLE bugs fixed and improvement is IMPORTANT > Â Â Â Â - we do not want the final latest coolest superhyper cool and hyper clever fixes! > Â Â Â Â - we accept little improvement > Â Â Â Â - in UNSTABLE we have the right to push not 100% finish code > > Now think what YOU can do for pharo. Because Yes YOU can > Â Â Â Â - screencast > Â Â Â Â - checking tests (yesterday I moved CompiledMethodAsStringTest>>testPrint to CompiledMethodTest>>testPrint) Yeah hyper difficult > Â Â Â Â - Class comments: look at the URI class comment > Â Â Â Â - blogging > Â Â Â Â - tweeting > > > We should slowly change our process so that Pharo continue to evolve even if we disappear on the moon. > > Now I asked marcus to focus on the newcompiler and stop fixing little bugs because we want to make progress on other fronts. > > We want newcompiler - Â we want the newcompiler - Â we want the newcompiler and fixing it and fixing its interface. > We want Helvetia hooks -We want Helvetia hooks. > We want a new package object (but I do not find time to code argh). > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- ================================================= GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com =================================================

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Minor GUI glitch with Pharo 1.0 on Mac

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

this is not a problem but reporting is the first step. Now I imagine that we should get a resize window event and react to it. On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:19 PM, Lawson English wrote: > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Simple. >> - Enter a bug entry. >> - Say it in the mailing-list. >> - Send fix. >> >> Consider that Pharo is not our stuff but OUR stuff. >> >> Stef >> >> > > Sorry. Definitely did NOT want to seem like a critical non-contributor (though I am both, I'm afraid). > > At this point, I have no idea how to figure out what is wrong, letalone how to fix it. > > Lawson > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: iPhone OS 4 SDK, section 3.3.1

by stephane ducasse

Yes extremely sad. I imagine that you saw my mail on esug-list. On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Juan Vuletich wrote: > Andreas Raab wrote: >> On 4/8/2010 2:43 PM, Sean Malloy wrote: >>> Anyone have any thoughts on this change to the agreement? >> >> Just in case anyone had any illusions on this: >> >> http://computinged.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/apple-removes-scratch-from-ipad… >> >> Cheers, >> - Andreas > > Oh! How silly then can be! > > :( > Juan Vuletich >

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Minor GUI glitch with Pharo 1.0 on Mac

by Lawson English

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Simple. > - Enter a bug entry. > - Say it in the mailing-list. > - Send fix. > > Consider that Pharo is not our stuff but OUR stuff. > > Stef > > Sorry. Definitely did NOT want to seem like a critical non-contributor (though I am both, I'm afraid). At this point, I have no idea how to figure out what is wrong, letalone how to fix it. Lawson

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Have a look because Citizen is not monolithic a part called CP.. is the integration of Citezen with Pier (hence Seaside). Now we (with Adrian Barreaux) are improving Citezen to offer queries, script to produce other formats. If you have feedback just let us know. Citzene is important for me because I want to script a lot of things with it. On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:03 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Stef, > > ConfigurationOfCitezen loads Seaside. Is that intentional and likely to continue into the future? Any answer is ok; I am simply trying to get comfortable with Metacello and wondering what to expect. > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Minor GUI glitch with Pharo 1.0 on Mac

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Simple. - Enter a bug entry. - Say it in the mailing-list. - Send fix. Consider that Pharo is not our stuff but OUR stuff. Stef

April 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfCitezen

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Stef, ConfigurationOfCitezen loads Seaside. Is that intentional and likely to continue into the future? Any answer is ok; I am simply trying to get comfortable with Metacello and wondering what to expect. Bill

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] iPhone OS 4 SDK, section 3.3.1

by Andreas Raab

On 4/15/2010 11:50 AM, Juan Vuletich wrote: > Andreas Raab wrote: >> On 4/8/2010 2:43 PM, Sean Malloy wrote: >>> Anyone have any thoughts on this change to the agreement? >> >> Just in case anyone had any illusions on this: >> >> http://computinged.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/apple-removes-scratch-from-ipad… >> >> >> Cheers, >> - Andreas > > Oh! How silly then can be! Indeed. Well, I'm looking forward to a nice Android tablet. BTW, we can use some help and you won't even have to sign an NDA: http://code.google.com/p/squeak-android-vm/ Cheers, - Andreas

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Minor GUI glitch with Pharo 1.0 on Mac

by Oscar Nierstrasz

Yes, it bothered me. It looks unprofessional. - on On Apr 15, 2010, at 20:39, Lawson English wrote: > Marcus Denker wrote: >> On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Lawson English wrote: >> >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAFpA9VFlRE >>> >>> >>> Known issue? >>> >>> >>> >> Yes... known. It never bothered me enough to even add a bug report for it... ;-) >> >> Marcus >> >> >> > > /me shrugs. When I point newbies to an official first release, I'm hoping that there are no immediately obvious glitches when they first run it. I noticed it before as well, but I assumed it was an artifact of debugging mode. > > > Lawson > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010