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Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: iPhone OS 4 SDK, section 3.3.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks for the info. But let us see because we do not know if a squeak-vm is an C or smalltalk app. Stef > Not to defend Apple's hubris or anything, but John's other apps written in Squeak are still in the store. Scratch was not taken down because it is implemented in Squeak, but because it downloads code from the internet and runs it. > > - Bert - > > On 15.04.2010, at 21:20, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> >> Yes extremely sad. >> I imagine that you saw my mail on esug-list. >> >> >> On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Juan Vuletich wrote: >> >>> Andreas Raab wrote: >>>> On 4/8/2010 2:43 PM, Sean Malloy wrote: >>>>> Anyone have any thoughts on this change to the agreement? >>>> >>>> Just in case anyone had any illusions on this: >>>> >>>> http://computinged.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/apple-removes-scratch-from-ipad… >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> - Andreas >>> >>> Oh! How silly then can be! >>> >>> :( >>> Juan Vuletich >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Addition to the Success story page

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

excellent idea. I know that there are other university or engineering schools in argentina. I will check that with mariano when he is back On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi! > > Would it be possible to add on the page http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories : > "University of Chile" in the Universities teaching in Pharo (http://www.uchile.cl/) and > "PLEIAD / DCC" in the Research groups using Pharo (http://www.pleiad.cl) > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 - One-click image: cannot handle German Umlauts in Ubuntu file system

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi hannes Thanks for the report! You can open a bug entry if you want. Stef On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:57 PM, Hannes Hirzel wrote: > Hello > > I am sorry for reporting this late. I have been using Squeak for the last weeks. > > As I saw the announcement of the release I was eager to have look at it. > The One-click image is neat. Downloading - unzipping and running. > Loading Seaside was fine. > > But a disappointment came when I wanted to file in Monticello files I > had in a directory on my Ubuntu 9.10 system. > > When I wanted to open the directory a UTF8 conversion error came up. > After I had changed a few umlauts to ASCII it was fine. > > Regards > > Hannes > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Re: iPhone OS 4 SDK, section 3.3.1

by Bert Freudenberg

Not to defend Apple's hubris or anything, but John's other apps written in Squeak are still in the store. Scratch was not taken down because it is implemented in Squeak, but because it downloads code from the internet and runs it. - Bert - On 15.04.2010, at 21:20, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > > Yes extremely sad. > I imagine that you saw my mail on esug-list. > > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Juan Vuletich wrote: > >> Andreas Raab wrote: >>> On 4/8/2010 2:43 PM, Sean Malloy wrote: >>>> Anyone have any thoughts on this change to the agreement? >>> >>> Just in case anyone had any illusions on this: >>> >>> http://computinged.wordpress.com/2010/04/15/apple-removes-scratch-from-ipad… >>> >>> Cheers, >>> - Andreas >> >> Oh! How silly then can be! >> >> :( >> Juan Vuletich >> > >

April 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] more evidence that I am a newbie

by Lawson English

I tried to load Andreas Raab's ffi-based OpenGL packages into Pharo 1.0... (Installer repository: 'http://source.squeak.org/FFI') install: 'FFI-Pools'; install: 'FFI-Kernel'; install: 'FFI-Tests'. (Installer repository: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/CroquetGL') install: '3DTransform'; install: 'OpenGL-Pools'; install: 'OpenGL-Core'. OpenGL example I wasn't quite sure how to load them with Gofer so I did it manually with Monticello. However, when I "doIt" with 'OpenGL example' I get the error: MessageNotUnderstood: SystemDictionary>>platformName OpenGL class>>new OpenGL class>>newIn: OpenGL example No doubt its something totally trivial... Suggestions? Lawson

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] starting specific image in one-click Pharo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

The one click image is a bundle. u can open the bundle and change the image Now I suggest you install the vm and you double on your image. I do not use the oneclick because the package cache is inside and because I cannot decide what I execute easily Stef On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:45 PM, Lawson English wrote: > How does one choose to use a different image in Pharo, at least on a Mac? > > I can't find a preference setting or menu option to load an earlier version, though I can go into the .app directory and manually start a specific image. > > > Also, is there any way of working with different versions of the same package/classes in the same image? > > In other words, if I want to follow two different development paths, could I "sandbox" versions of package(s) in different projects and automatically switch between them when I switch projects? > > Or is there some other way of accomplishing this? The most obvious route is to reload or at least choose an image during the startup process, but I don't see how to even do that. > > Thanks. > > > lawson > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Really Important message (tm)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks! As I said, 30 min are enough Stef On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:25 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > ok, my signed agreement is leaving today for France. > > I will try to start understanding how is the contribution process in > Pharo and playing a bit with unstable. > > Unfortunately I've very little free time, but still, will try to help. > > Cheers. > > > 2010/4/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> Hi guys >> >> Let me reiterate it: >> >> - We need you! >> - 75 % of the issues on the bug tracker are simple. >> - BTW how did we learn stuff, by reading code and learning. I'm not smart I'm just a tedious learner >> I can any opportunity to learn something new. >> - if you spend 30 min a week, YOU CAN get an IMPACT! >> - if pharo is important for you then 30 min in a good investment >> - every single LITTLE bugs fixed and improvement is IMPORTANT >> - we do not want the final latest coolest superhyper cool and hyper clever fixes! >> - we accept little improvement >> - in UNSTABLE we have the right to push not 100% finish code >> >> Now think what YOU can do for pharo. Because Yes YOU can >> - screencast >> - checking tests (yesterday I moved CompiledMethodAsStringTest>>testPrint to CompiledMethodTest>>testPrint) Yeah hyper difficult >> - Class comments: look at the URI class comment >> - blogging >> - tweeting >> >> >> We should slowly change our process so that Pharo continue to evolve even if we disappear on the moon. >> >> Now I asked marcus to focus on the newcompiler and stop fixing little bugs because we want to make progress on other fronts. >> >> We want newcompiler - we want the newcompiler - we want the newcompiler and fixing it and fixing its interface. >> We want Helvetia hooks -We want Helvetia hooks. >> We want a new package object (but I do not find time to code argh). >> >> Stef >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > ================================================= > GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > ================================================= > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] Addition to the Success story page

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! Would it be possible to add on the page http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories : "University of Chile" in the Universities teaching in Pharo (http://www.uchile.cl/ ), and "PLEIAD / DCC" in the Research groups using Pharo (http://www.pleiad.cl ) Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

April 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] Pharo 1.0 - One-click image: cannot handle German Umlauts in Ubuntu file system

by Hannes Hirzel

Hello I am sorry for reporting this late. I have been using Squeak for the last weeks. As I saw the announcement of the release I was eager to have look at it. The One-click image is neat. Downloading - unzipping and running. Loading Seaside was fine. But a disappointment came when I wanted to file in Monticello files I had in a directory on my Ubuntu 9.10 system. When I wanted to open the directory a UTF8 conversion error came up. After I had changed a few umlauts to ASCII it was fine. Regards Hannes

April 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] starting specific image in one-click Pharo?

by Lawson English

How does one choose to use a different image in Pharo, at least on a Mac? I can't find a preference setting or menu option to load an earlier version, though I can go into the .app directory and manually start a specific image. Also, is there any way of working with different versions of the same package/classes in the same image? In other words, if I want to follow two different development paths, could I "sandbox" versions of package(s) in different projects and automatically switch between them when I switch projects? Or is there some other way of accomplishing this? The most obvious route is to reload or at least choose an image during the startup process, but I don't see how to even do that. Thanks. lawson

April 15, 2010