April 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo 1.0 released!

by Torsten Bergmann

Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: >Now I feel more spurred to get my act together and contribute something >myself, especially since I just downloaded and ran the 1-click image and >found to my horror that the Test Runner is showing some red :-/ This is just when you run all tests in the TestRunner in one step. When you run them alone they are green. Also RenderBugz fails from time to time. Maybe we should raise the time in RenderBugz>>long Bye T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

April 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Addition to the Success story page

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

great! On Apr 16, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Carla F. Griggio wrote: > We're using Pharo in Buenos Aires, Argentina for the subject "Paradigmas de ProgramaciÃ³n" (Programming paradigms) at "UTN - Universidad TecnolÃ³gica Nacional". > > Does using Pharo only for the GlassTools to work with GLASS count as a successful story? :P Yes do you have a link somewhere? > > Hi! > > > > Would it be possible to add on the page http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories : > > "University of Chile" in the Universities teaching in Pharo (http://www.uchile.cl/) and > > "PLEIAD / DCC" in the Research groups using Pharo (http://www.pleiad.cl) > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] more evidence that I am a newbie

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2318 >>>> >> new >> Smalltalk platformName = 'Win32' ifTrue:[^OGLWin32 basicNew initialize]. >> Smalltalk platformName = 'unix' >> ifTrue: >> [(Smalltalk windowSystemName = 'Quartz') >> "implicitly big endian" >> ifTrue: [^OGLUnixQuartz basicNew initialize]. >> "default to X11 window system" >> Smalltalk isLittleEndian >> ifTrue: [^OGLUnixX11LE basicNew initialize] >> ifFalse: [^OGLUnixX11BE basicNew initialize]]. >> Smalltalk platformName = 'Mac OS' ifTrue:[ >> Smalltalk osVersion asNumber < 1000 >> ifTrue: [^OGLMacOS9 basicNew initialize] >> ifFalse:[^OGLMacOSX basicNew initialize]. >> ]. >> ^self error:'Cannot identify platform' > Try replacing windowSystemName with (SmalltalkImage current getSystemAttribute: 1005). > > 1.0 (1.1 too, actually) does not include some of the abstraction methods introduced in Squeak, which OpenGL uses. > > Cheers, > Henry > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Double line feeds in some method source

by Lukas Renggli

>> I built an image from the 1.0 image (congratulations/thanks to all!!!!) and have noticed that some of the method source has extra line feeds. Â So far, I have not noticed anything that the affected classes/methods/packages/etc. have in common. > > can you give us a list? or some samples to check? What kind of extra line feeds? That kind of stuff can be easily fixed with the regexp extension to the refactoring engine. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Double line feeds in some method source

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 16, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Hello all, > > I built an image from the 1.0 image (congratulations/thanks to all!!!!) and have noticed that some of the method source has extra line feeds. So far, I have not noticed anything that the affected classes/methods/packages/etc. have in common. can you give us a list? or some samples to check? Stef > > Anyone else seeing this? > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Really Important message (tm)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 16, 2010, at 12:02 AM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: > The letter is on the way. > > A first question, to help with unstable I should use it as it comes > (with no added packages) or I can install somethings to make the > environment more comfortable (as shout for example) ? the way you want but if you load packages you should pay attention that you changes do not impact them by accident. Ideally we would like to have metacello to manage core and the process would be - take latest core - update -> get Pharo with maintained Pharo package: sound ------------------------------------------------------- this phase should be done for us on a server with a hudson cron like job - you change - you publish changes -------------------------------------------------------- we take the current unstable core + packages - integrate your changes -> produce new version of packages + new metacello configuration Now since loading code is too slow we have to pay attention and avoid to frantically remove packages from the image because they can desync too easily when we do system wide changes. So for simple things just take the latest unstable and publish changes > GermÃ¡n. > > 2010/4/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >> Thanks! >> As I said, 30 min are enough >> Stef >> >> On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:25 PM, GermÃ¡n Arduino wrote: >> >>> ok, my signed agreement is leaving today for France. >>> >>> I will try to start understanding how is the contribution process in >>> Pharo and playing a bit with unstable. >>> >>> Unfortunately I've very little free time, but still, will try to help. >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> >>> 2010/4/15 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: >>>> Hi guys >>>> >>>> Let me reiterate it: >>>> >>>> - We need you! >>>> - 75 % of the issues on the bug tracker are simple. >>>> - BTW how did we learn stuff, by reading code and learning. I'm not smart I'm just a tedious learner >>>> I can any opportunity to learn something new. >>>> - if you spend 30 min a week, YOU CAN get an IMPACT! >>>> - if pharo is important for you then 30 min in a good investment >>>> - every single LITTLE bugs fixed and improvement is IMPORTANT >>>> - we do not want the final latest coolest superhyper cool and hyper clever fixes! >>>> - we accept little improvement >>>> - in UNSTABLE we have the right to push not 100% finish code >>>> >>>> Now think what YOU can do for pharo. Because Yes YOU can >>>> - screencast >>>> - checking tests (yesterday I moved CompiledMethodAsStringTest>>testPrint to CompiledMethodTest>>testPrint) Yeah hyper difficult >>>> - Class comments: look at the URI class comment >>>> - blogging >>>> - tweeting >>>> >>>> >>>> We should slowly change our process so that Pharo continue to evolve even if we disappear on the moon. >>>> >>>> Now I asked marcus to focus on the newcompiler and stop fixing little bugs because we want to make progress on other fronts. >>>> >>>> We want newcompiler - we want the newcompiler - we want the newcompiler and fixing it and fixing its interface. >>>> We want Helvetia hooks -We want Helvetia hooks. >>>> We want a new package object (but I do not find time to code argh). >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ================================================= >>> GermÃ¡n S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino >>> Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com >>> PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com >>> ================================================= >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Optimization of PharoCore File Downloads

by Adrian Lienhard

I have the same problem... What would be nice is to have a "symbolic" link to the most recent version. For Pharo 1.0 this is easy because it does not change anymore. For 1.1 the link would need to update whenever there is a new version. Like this we could link these images from the website directly and people wouldn't have to go to gforce. Is this possible? Adrian On Apr 16, 2010, at 08:48 , Lukas Renggli wrote: > When I need a new Pharo image I typically go to the files listing at > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 > > where I find all the core images for Pharo 1.0 and 1.1. > > The problem is that it is really time consuming to find the right > section on this large page :-) > > - Would it be possible to reorder the sections "Pharo-Core 1.0" and > "Pharo-Core 1.1" to appear on top? > > - Or, put an index of all sections on top of that page? > > - Or, use some unambiguous spelling for the section titles (like > "[PharoCore1.0]" and "[PharoCore1.1]") so that the sections can be > quickly found using Ctrl+F without getting matches in the filenames? > > Just a few ideas to make this a bit easier. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] Fwd: Re: Handle Close Event in Image - necessary for 1.0?

by Torsten Bergmann

Cool, this would also allow us to use newer VM's with "old" 1.0 pharo images. >The in-image close-event that is now generated by default in the Windows >VM has always been a settable entity. In your original announcements you wrote that the old behavior can be influenced by using SHIFT (see [1]), so I did'nt notice that one can also get the old behavior back using the .ini file. Thanks for your post. Next time I will crosspost to vm-dev. Bye Torsten [1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-March/004142.html -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

April 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] Optimization of PharoCore File Downloads

by Lukas Renggli

When I need a new Pharo image I typically go to the files listing at https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=1299 where I find all the core images for Pharo 1.0 and 1.1. The problem is that it is really time consuming to find the right section on this large page :-) - Would it be possible to reorder the sections "Pharo-Core 1.0" and "Pharo-Core 1.1" to appear on top? - Or, put an index of all sections on top of that page? - Or, use some unambiguous spelling for the section titles (like "[PharoCore1.0]" and "[PharoCore1.1]") so that the sections can be quickly found using Ctrl+F without getting matches in the filenames? Just a few ideas to make this a bit easier. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Addition to the Success story page

by Carla F. Griggio

We're using Pharo in Buenos Aires, Argentina for the subject "Paradigmas de ProgramaciÃ³n" (Programming paradigms) at "UTN - Universidad TecnolÃ³gica Nacional". Does using Pharo only for the GlassTools to work with GLASS count as a successful story? :P On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:04 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > excellent idea. > I know that there are other university or engineering schools in argentina. > I will check that with mariano when he is back > > On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > Would it be possible to add on the page > http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories : > > "University of Chile" in the Universities teaching in Pharo ( > http://www.uchile.cl/) and > > "PLEIAD / DCC" in the Research groups using Pharo (http://www.pleiad.cl > ) > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 16, 2010