April 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] Curl plugin problems - CurlPlugin.1.1.0.bundle.zip

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: heinsaris <hein(a)beta9.be> >> Date: 20 april 2010 10:42:41 GMT+02:00 >> To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Curl plugin problems - CurlPlugin.1.1.0.bundle.zip >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> I tested a 2.0.0 version of the plugin sent to me by John, and it passes all >> the tests except for the timeout option test in CurlTests>>testApiOptions, >> which fails. >> >> I also tested the 1.1.0 version of the plugin, but that does not pass most >> of the tests. I fails on primitive 'primSetOptLong'. >> >> I use Pharo 1.0 (oneclick) on a MBP running Snow Leopard (10.6.3). >> The libcurl version reported by Curl>>curlVersion is 'libcurl/7.19.7 >> OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3'. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Hein

April 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Stadistics about Pharo 1.0 ?

by Adrian Lienhard

Here are the key web stats for April 15 - Visitors: 9'500 - Page views: 23'000 - Sources: most of them are from reddit, others from news.ycombinator.com, www.linux.org.ru, and twitter On April 16 we still had 6'000 visitors and since then 700 each day (in comparison, on a normal day we have 250). Cheers, Adrian On Apr 20, 2010, at 09:02 , Serge Stinckwich wrote: > What is really important is the number of new people in the mailing-list ! > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:51 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> so 2098 downloads of 1.0 one click :) >> >> Stef >> >> >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 5:22 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> Hi Marcus/Adrian. Can you tell us more or less stadistics from the Pharo 1.0 release ? people entering the website, downloading the image, the one click, PBE, etc ? >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> mariano >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Addition to the Success story page

by Adrian Lienhard

I added the link. Re UTN, I wait for a URL. Cheers, Adrian On Apr 20, 2010, at 05:45 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:04 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> excellent idea. >> I know that there are other university or engineering schools in argentina. >> I will check that with mariano when he is back >> >> > University of Buenos Aires (UBA) > Signature: Algoritmos y programaciÃ³n 3 > > This is the link: (go to where it says "recursos" if you want) > http://materias.fi.uba.ar/7507/ > > Tomorrow I will give a talk there ;) > > Please, also add UTN as Carla said. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > >> On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:58 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> Hi! >>> >>> Would it be possible to add on the page >> http://www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories : >>> "University of Chile" in the Universities teaching in Pharo ( >> http://www.uchile.cl/) and >>> "PLEIAD / DCC" in the Research groups using Pharo (http://www.pleiad.cl >> ) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI in 1.1

by laurent laffont

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Lawson English <lenglish5(a)cox.net> wrote: > John M McIntosh wrote: > >> Well I asked for it... >> (a) you can get graphic cut/copy/paste of complex data on the macintosh >> and windows. >> >> (b) I'd rather have people learn FFI & Alien so they can build their own >> api to Rome, Pango, & Curl instead of waiting on about 4 people in the world >> to get around to building and distributing *official* plugins . >> >> (c) When your curl, rome, etc FFI call freaks and toasts your image why >> you can do debugging, versus relying on a handful of people in the world to >> grind thru some compiler, gnu debug session to figure out why that register >> move results in a fatal Virtual memory page fault. >> > > Forget curl, I want to recreate the Cocoa class libs in squeak/pharo for > WebKit... > Cocoa ? So it will run only on Mac OS X ? Cheers, Laurent Laffont > And then create etoy extensions that can handle them. > > ;-). > > > Lawson > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FEATURE: User chooses preferred location for MC directory repositories

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

for example or just choosing it using settings. Stef PS: one of these dasy we will need to be able to use environment variables On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Michael Roberts wrote: > Regarding sharing a package cache, I made a change a while ago that > searches up the directory tree to see if there is one higher up. You > then don't have to change the fresh image. What do you think? > > Cheers > mike > > On Tuesday, April 20, 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 1:00 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: >> >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2329 >>> >>> Pharo image: Pharo 1.0 >>> >>> In Monticello Browser, when I click "+Repository" and select "directory," >>> I'd love to be taken right to the directory where I keep my local >>> repositories, instead of having to click to the same place over and over. >>> >>> I changed the following method: >>> MCDirectoryRepository class>>morphicConfigure >>> ^ (UIManager default chooseDirectoryFrom: (FileDirectory on: >>> '/path/to/my/Repositories')) ifNotNil: >>> [:directory | >>> self new directory: directory] >>> >>> How should I store the default repository directory? Would anyone else find >>> this helpful? >> >> it would be good to be able to >> either choose to have one local cache on the side of the image >> or one shared among image - this implies a way to store and set it up >> => probably a class variable + a setting in 1.1 >>> >>> Sean DeNigris >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/FEATURE-User-chooses-preferred-location-for-MC-directo… >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI in 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

But ok we need time for that.... and I do not have any right now. Stef On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:21 AM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: > On 20 apr 2010, at 09.13, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: >> >>> Stef, I like how you're thinking, but your list raises one question in my mind: how do you propose to load anything into "Mini" without a Compiler? Sorry if that's a stupid question, but I need to know :-p >>> >> In my coolest dream: socket + object serializer like in some versions of S# of dan simmons. > > Aha! TrÃ¨s trÃ¨s cool! :-D > >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > Cheers, > Peter > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FEATURE: User chooses preferred location for MC directory repositories

by Michael Roberts

Regarding sharing a package cache, I made a change a while ago that searches up the directory tree to see if there is one higher up. You then don't have to change the fresh image. What do you think? Cheers mike On Tuesday, April 20, 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 1:00 AM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2329 >> >> Pharo image: Pharo 1.0 >> >> In Monticello Browser, when I click "+Repository" and select "directory," >> I'd love to be taken right to the directory where I keep my local >> repositories, instead of having to click to the same place over and over. >> >> I changed the following method: >> MCDirectoryRepository class>>morphicConfigure >> Â Â Â ^ (UIManager default chooseDirectoryFrom: (FileDirectory on: >> '/path/to/my/Repositories')) ifNotNil: >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â [:directory | >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â self new directory: directory] >> >> How should I store the default repository directory? Â Would anyone else find >> this helpful? > > it would be good to be able to > Â Â Â Â either choose to have one local cache on the side of the image > Â Â Â Â or one shared among image - this implies a way to store and set it up > Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â => probably a class variable + a setting in 1.1 >> >> Sean DeNigris >> -- >> View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/FEATURE-User-chooses-preferred-location-for-MC-directo… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI in 1.1

by Peter Hugosson-Miller

On 20 apr 2010, at 09.13, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: > >> Stef, I like how you're thinking, but your list raises one question >> in my mind: how do you propose to load anything into "Mini" without >> a Compiler? Sorry if that's a stupid question, but I need to know :-p >> > In my coolest dream: socket + object serializer like in some > versions of S# of dan simmons. Aha! TrÃ¨s trÃ¨s cool! :-D > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Cheers, Peter

April 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI in 1.1

by Lawson English

John M McIntosh wrote: > Well I asked for it... > > (a) you can get graphic cut/copy/paste of complex data on the macintosh and windows. > > (b) I'd rather have people learn FFI & Alien so they can build their own api to Rome, Pango, & Curl instead of waiting on about 4 people in the world to get around to building and distributing *official* plugins . > > (c) When your curl, rome, etc FFI call freaks and toasts your image why you can do debugging, versus relying on a handful of people in the world to grind thru some compiler, gnu debug session to figure out why that register move results in a fatal Virtual memory page fault. > Forget curl, I want to recreate the Cocoa class libs in squeak/pharo for WebKit... And then create etoy extensions that can handle them. ;-). Lawson

April 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FFI in 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:06 AM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: > Stef, I like how you're thinking, but your list raises one question in my mind: how do you propose to load anything into "Mini" without a Compiler? Sorry if that's a stupid question, but I need to know :-p > In my coolest dream: socket + object serializer like in some versions of S# of dan simmons. Stef

April 20, 2010