April 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfPharo

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Alexandre wrote: > >This triggered many loads, to end with an error: 'Name not found: > >ArchiveViewer'. > > I got this error when trying to build a complete app image > for MetaSource from a 1.0 core image using an own ConfigurationOfMetaSource > that internally used the ConfigurationOfPharo. > Yes, I saw both emails....no time to play with Pharo this days.. I have just took a look, and indeed, it was wrong: 'ArchiveViewer' should be removed from baseline11 I have just commited: Name: ConfigurationOfPharo-MarianoMartinezPeck.63 Author: MarianoMartinezPeck Time: 27 April 2010, 5:20:43 pm UUID: e0ea391a-c918-4545-9dcf-a131be4aa5e0 Ancestors: ConfigurationOfPharo-MarianoMartinezPeck.62 Removed 'ArchiveViewer' from baseline as now it is in PharoNonCorePackages does it work ? cheers mariano > > Dont know what changed on ConfigurationOfPharo, since it worked in > the past... > > see > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2010-April/025757.html > > Got no response so far. > > What I found interesting is that I was able to build a 1.0 dev-image > from a 1.0 core image when I use the config directly. But not when > I use it in another configuration (ConfigurationOfMetaSource in this case). > > I'm still puzzled.... > > Bye > T. > > > > > > -- > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] What packages do you use that you can't live without?!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

may be workingSet could be added to pharo1.1 dev On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > In most of the threads on this list, I learn about packages that sound > totally indispensible (e.g. WorkingSet, algernon). I thought it'd be great > to share what we're using to develop that makes a dramatic difference on our > productivity. And, especially whether they work in 1.0 or 1.1 or both. > > > Being new, I just have two: > 1. SSpec - works in Pharo 1.0 almost flawlessly, I fixed it for Pharo 1.1 > and will upload shortly > 2. Setup - works in Pharo 1.0, I uploaded a fixed for 1.1 version to ss > > Sean > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/What-packages-do-you-use-that-you-can-t-live-without-… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] World menu and preference compatibility

by Sean P. DeNigris

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > the menus world of pharo are dynamically generated from pragmas. > Thanks Steph, I know. What I'm getting at is if we can steer squeak to compatibility by allaying their concerns about a pragma solution. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/World-menu-and-preference-compatibility-tp2067710p206… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] World menu and preference compatibility

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Sean the menus world of pharo are dynamically generated from pragmas. Stef > > There is a conversation on squeak-dev right now about how to handle world > menus / prefs / docking bar. > > The participants seem to be leaning toward using pragmas, and I am a strong > voice for compatibility where we can, especially on the fundamentals. > > If anyone can/wants to share their experience with the pragma solution so > far (there is a question in particular about whether it allows dynamic menu > additions/removals), it would be relevant. > > http://forum.world.st/Squeak-dev-World-Menu-Registry-td2064576.html > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/World-menu-and-preference-compatibility-tp2067710p206… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 27, 2010

[Pharo-project] What packages do you use that you can't live without?!

by Sean P. DeNigris

In most of the threads on this list, I learn about packages that sound totally indispensible (e.g. WorkingSet, algernon). I thought it'd be great to share what we're using to develop that makes a dramatic difference on our productivity. And, especially whether they work in 1.0 or 1.1 or both. Being new, I just have two: 1. SSpec - works in Pharo 1.0 almost flawlessly, I fixed it for Pharo 1.1 and will upload shortly 2. Setup - works in Pharo 1.0, I uploaded a fixed for 1.1 version to ss Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/What-packages-do-you-use-that-you-can-t-live-without-… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] World menu OCompletion-like algorithm

by Sean P. DeNigris

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > isn't WorkingSet something similar > WorkingSet looks way cool! It does for the browser what I was suggesting we do for the world menu. I will code something up for everyone to play with. Stand by... Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Re-squeak-dev-World-menu-OCompletion-like-algorithm-t… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 27, 2010

[Pharo-project] World menu and preference compatibility

by Sean P. DeNigris

There is a conversation on squeak-dev right now about how to handle world menus / prefs / docking bar. The participants seem to be leaning toward using pragmas, and I am a strong voice for compatibility where we can, especially on the fundamentals. If anyone can/wants to share their experience with the pragma solution so far (there is a question in particular about whether it allows dynamic menu additions/removals), it would be relevant. http://forum.world.st/Squeak-dev-World-Menu-Registry-td2064576.html -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/World-menu-and-preference-compatibility-tp2067710p206… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 27, 2010

[Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfPharo

by Torsten Bergmann

Alexandre wrote: >This triggered many loads, to end with an error: 'Name not found: >ArchiveViewer'. I got this error when trying to build a complete app image for MetaSource from a 1.0 core image using an own ConfigurationOfMetaSource that internally used the ConfigurationOfPharo. Dont know what changed on ConfigurationOfPharo, since it worked in the past... see http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2010-April/025757.html Got no response so far. What I found interesting is that I was able to build a 1.0 dev-image from a 1.0 core image when I use the config directly. But not when I use it in another configuration (ConfigurationOfMetaSource in this case). I'm still puzzled.... Bye T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

April 27, 2010

[Pharo-project] Pharo sprint in Bern on June 5, 2010

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi all, We are planning again to do a sprint in Bern. Please add your name to the wiki if you plan to attend. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoSprints Cheers, Adrian ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

April 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] RB AST serialization

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 27, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> what theo d hondt told us a while ago is that pascal or oberon >> they did not store bytecode but compressed ast and it was shorter than bytecode > > Sounds strange Why? > (imagine if you have comments in your code). There are no comments in bytecode, either. The idea is *not* to replace source code. > Are there > any references on this? > There is a lot of work on this, e.g. slim binaries: http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=265576 or lots of work on grammar-driven compression of code, and much more. Not that it's exactly slim binaries that we want to implement here. We want to learn about compact serialization of AST like structures. Just learn. First serialization. Than compression. And the nice thing is that I am payed for exploring strange things :-) And I think we should pospone discussion after we have learned. It's so easy to kill all energy on a mailinglist in a minute. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 27, 2010