April 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Need screenshots

by Adrian Lienhard

Thanks all for your help! Cheers, Adrian On Apr 1, 2010, at 15:54 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Thanks Mariano and Torsten. I replied privately to Adrian, pictures are a bit too large for the mailing list. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 31 Mar 2010, at 17:12, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> Maybe also to take screenshots of this: >> >> UITheme exampleBasicControls. >> UITheme exampleColorControls. >> UITheme exampleDialogs. >> UITheme exampleGroups. >> UITheme exampleOtherControls. >> UITheme exampleWindowWithToolbars. >> >> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: >> >> On Mar 31, 2010, at 23:38 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >> > Which kind of screenshot? >> >> I thought primarily of screenshots of Pharo and its dev tools. For instance the browser with code highlighting, with autocompletion, merge and diff tool, test runner, GUI with different themes, etc. We also have a screenshot of an iPhone that would be nice to get updated. But maybe also screenshots of external applications, like Mondrian. >> >> > How do you want them? I send them directly to you? >> >> Yes, please. >> >> > Can it be screenshot of applications? I can produce some screenshot of Mondrian. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Alexandre >> > >> > >> > On 31 Mar 2010, at 16:32, Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> > >> >> To prepare the website for the upcoming release, I'd like to update the page http://pharo-project.org/about/screenshots with nice new screenshots. >> >> >> >> Any takers? >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Adrian >> >> >> >> ___________________ >> >> http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > -- >> > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] squeakToUTF-8 and related?

by Michael Rueger

On 4/1/2010 3:26 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Until someone proves me wrong I would say that Pharo is UTF-8 clean :-) > > Sure but what does it mean for stef the stupid: > characters/strings are encoded in UTF-8 or optimized -> 127 and then after > If you could just rwrtie a little paragraph that I understand once :) I'll try :-) And I should have written unicode clean, not UTF-8. So modulo bugs like the one Henrik pointed out Pharo - keeps all strings in the image in unicode. Either as byte strings for strings that do not contain any characters larger than 127, WideString otherwise using basically UTF-32 encoding. - has all en/decoders fixed to do the correct *-encoding to unicode and back translation - utilizes the unicode character entry in the input events, so it should be possible to input all unicode characters on the different keyboards (us, german, french, russian, etc) - uses unicode encoding for filenames - uses unicode encoding for the clipboard Hope I didn't leave out anything important :-) You still need to pick the correct en/decoder to interpret file contents correctly, the system just can't know which encoding the file is in (see e.g. text edit on the mac, you need to set the proper encoding there as well). Michael

April 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] squeakToUTF-8 and related?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 1, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Michael Rueger wrote: > On 4/1/2010 10:38 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> So mike could you summarize the Pharo situation. > > Until someone proves me wrong I would say that Pharo is UTF-8 clean :-) Sure but what does it mean for stef the stupid: characters/strings are encoded in UTF-8 or optimized -> 127 and then after If you could just rwrtie a little paragraph that I understand once :) > > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Test for Collection>>sorted

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks hilaire. Stef > StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : > >>>> Hilaire you should read the paper on traits. >>> pointer on *one* good tutorial? I think I already read something. A small memento on the syntax to define and to use trait will be enough to get started comfortably. If there are such a things I suggest we add it in good place in the pharo web site (along a paper on unit test); these features are essential parts -- features -- of Pharo, so why not emphasis it. >> this is on my todo for the next book but well other people could help... > > For now, adding two entries on the FAQ with link to reference material > about Trait and Unit Test could help and be helpful. > > >>> Btw, it would be a nice idea to convert an html version of the Pharo by example book, so we can have direct pointer to chapter from the pharo web site. It should be doable with latex2html. In the past I used hyperlatex to produce both nice html and pdf version of DrGeo manual (http://documentation.ofset.org/drgeo/fr/drgenius_51.html) >> I do not have time for that. > > Depending on how is constructed the latex source it could be tedious or not: if command where use to abstract the latex instruction it will be easier. > > I have commited in the Inbox tests and fixed for sorted, sorted: methods. Trait are indeed nicely used in the test classes. > > Hilaire > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11304

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks! Stef On Apr 1, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > 11304 > ----- > > Issue 2248: Catchall for unsent message removal > Issue 2246: remove KedamaFloatArray > Issue 2233: asSortedArray should be deprecated > Issue 2200: Duplicated code between ChangeSet and ChangesOrganizer > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Test for Collection>>sorted

by Hilaire Fernandes

StÃ©phane Ducasse a Ã©crit : >>> Hilaire you should read the paper on traits. >> pointer on *one* good tutorial? I think I already read something. A small memento on the syntax to define and to use trait will be enough to get started comfortably. If there are such a things I suggest we add it in good place in the pharo web site (along a paper on unit test); these features are essential parts -- features -- of Pharo, so why not emphasis it. > > this is on my todo for the next book but well other people could help... For now, adding two entries on the FAQ with link to reference material about Trait and Unit Test could help and be helpful. >> Btw, it would be a nice idea to convert an html version of the Pharo by example book, so we can have direct pointer to chapter from the pharo web site. It should be doable with latex2html. In the past I used hyperlatex to produce both nice html and pdf version of DrGeo manual (http://documentation.ofset.org/drgeo/fr/drgenius_51.html) > > I do not have time for that. Depending on how is constructed the latex source it could be tedious or not: if command where use to abstract the latex instruction it will be easier. I have commited in the Inbox tests and fixed for sorted, sorted: methods. Trait are indeed nicely used in the test classes. Hilaire

April 1, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11304

by Marcus Denker

11304 ----- Issue 2248: Catchall for unsent message removal Issue 2246: remove KedamaFloatArray Issue 2233: asSortedArray should be deprecated Issue 2200: Duplicated code between ChangeSet and ChangesOrganizer -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 1, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11302

by Marcus Denker

Issue 11302 ========== Issue 2250: SmalltalkImage current undeclared -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] squeakToUTF-8 and related?

by Henrik Johansen

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1608 Den 1. apr. 2010 kl. 11.31 skrev Michael Rueger <m.rueger(a)acm.org>: > On 4/1/2010 10:38 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> So mike could you summarize the Pharo situation. > > Until someone proves me wrong I would say that Pharo is UTF-8 > clean :-) > > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 1, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CompiledMethod asString is a text

by Andreas Raab

On 4/1/2010 1:06 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > So then I was wrong with this analysis... but on the big picture, it is true. And you know it. It was. In the past. But I don't live in the past. I live in the present. And in the present, Squeak has moved on. We're past that. We have a great system, a great community, a great contribution process. If you look at the last eight months we've had more contributions than in the previous five years together, both small and large. We have *serious* momentum. We have Etoys and Croquet/Cobalt moving back to Squeak. We'll be having the *second* release this year in three weeks we may even have a third release this year if the momentum keeps up. In any case we're *way* past the issues you mention. Everyone who wants to help Squeak is welcome to contribute[1]. That includes you and Stef. You have standing invitations to join the Squeak core developers so if you have any interest in Squeak left, you'll pick that invitation up and help make Squeak better. At least that's how I judge if someone really loves Squeak - not whether he says it but whether he *does* something to improve it. [1]http://squeakboard.wordpress.com/2009/07/02/a-new-community-development-m… Cheers, - Andreas

April 1, 2010