April 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar Theme

by Hilaire Fernandes

Michael Rueger a Ã©crit : > On 4/3/2010 11:09 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> did you check on the etoy image? I imgaine that they have their own >> repository? Sye > > AFAIK they don't use Monticello... Okay. By the way, does this gettext layer need plugin or is 100% smalltalk code? Hilaire

April 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: Tools to format source code ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

there was a problem in the OB of previous Pharo images. Now it is fixed. So...with RC3 or RC4 it should work for sure. If it is not, please report. Cheers Mariano 2010/4/2 Laval Jannik <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> > Argh, we try "format", but it does not work. > Maybe a special charater.... > > I don't know. > > Jannik > > On Apr 2, 2010, at 17:15 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > I think I don't understand. Select a method, right button, format. > > > 2010/4/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > >> :) >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> *From: *Cyrille Delaunay <cy.delaunay(a)gmail.com> >> *Date: *April 2, 2010 1:11:00 PM GMT+02:00 >> *To: *StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> *Subject: **Tools to format source code ?* >> >> Hello, >> I would like to know if there is a way, a tool to format source code in >> Pharo. >> Or does anyOne have already implement something that I could retrieve and >> use ? >> It would be cool :) (Because format manually code imported from VW can >> really be horrible) >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo-1.0-10517-rc4dev10.04.1

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/4/2 Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> > El vie, 02-04-2010 a las 16:51 +0200, Mariano Martinez Peck escribiÃ³: > > Hi folks. Here is the PharoDev RC4 based on the PharoCore 1.0 10517. > > > > There are few things new: > > > > - Little OB fixes > > - Now we have preload Metacello version 1.0-beta.25 > > - Little fix in changelog.txt > > - Updated links in workspace > > > > Now....VERY soon we will release PharoDev 1.0 stable. Probably based > > in this RC4. > > > > The link is: > > > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26778/Pharo-1.0-10517-rc4dev10.04.… > > If I hover over the link or click it it goes to: > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26777/Pharo-1.0-10517-rc4dev10.04.… > > instead of: > > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26778/Pharo-1.0-10517-rc4dev10.04.… > > that is the correct one (with 26778 in the path). > > Thanks! I don't know what happened, but yes, the link is: https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26778/Pharo-1.0-10517-rc4dev10.04.… > Cheers > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > Miguel CobÃ¡ > http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users >

April 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [For Testing] RC3 One-Click

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Marcus. I have been testing a little the one click image and I found the following things: - splash.bmp says release candidate 2. It should be release stable 1.0 or RC3. - There is the __MACOSX folder...should be remove. Remember yemuzip ;) - In Linux VM, you pass the parameter -encoding latin1 to the VM. Shouldn't this be UTF-8 ? I don't know. - In /Contents/Resources not only is PharoV10.sources but also SqueakV39.sources. Shouldn't SqueakV39.sources be deleted ? even more it size 16MB!! - The name of the zip of the 1.0 maybe should have a name different than:Pharo-1.0-10515-rc3dev.zip, for example Pharo-1.0-OneClick. Notice the OneClick as part of the name - In linux there are 2 failing test: TestIdenting >> testNewLineLeaveSpacesOnOldLine TestIdenting >> testCR2 They are not new. I even try to ask help and Laurent too some time ago. I would like someone to analyze them. If it is a problem of the test, I would remove them. If there is nothing wrong with the test, I would try to analyze how to fix it. - There is a problem in the tests of RBInternalSpellChecker in Linux and Windows, when you are not connected to internet. There are 13 errors tests. The SpellChecker uses the MacOS library, but for Linux and Windows it uses its own. But...it needs to download the file. Thus, it fails if you are off-line. The place is in RBInternalSpellChecker >> downloadData And of course, self url is ' http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/smalltalk/rb-spelling.dat'. As now with Metacello configurations, it is easy to select if you want to download the tests or not, I would put that file somehow in the image (part of the test package). The file is 2.1 MB on disk. But maybe there is a reason not to do this. Lukas ? Cheers Mariano On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Chris Kassopulo <ckasso(a)sprynet.com> wrote: > On Fri, 02 Apr 2010 09:04:58 -0400, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > wrote: > > >> Here is a one-click image (for easy starting for newbies). >> >> I only tested this under macos, so it needs a testrun on Linux and Windows >> >> >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26774/Pharo-1.0-10515-rc3dev.zip >> >> > Ubuntu 9.04 > > 9177 run, 9155 passes, 20 expected failures, 2 failures, 0 errors, 0 > unexpected passes > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] squeakToUTF-8 and related?

by Levente Uzonyi

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010, Michael Rueger wrote: > On 4/1/2010 3:26 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >>> Until someone proves me wrong I would say that Pharo is UTF-8 clean :-) >> >> Sure but what does it mean for stef the stupid: >> characters/strings are encoded in UTF-8 or optimized -> 127 and then >> after >> If you could just rwrtie a little paragraph that I understand once :) > > I'll try :-) > > And I should have written unicode clean, not UTF-8. > > So modulo bugs like the one Henrik pointed out Pharo > - keeps all strings in the image in unicode. Either as byte strings for > strings that do not contain any characters larger than 127, WideString This sounds really inefficient. Did you remove the primitive send from ByteString >> #at:put:, or the following works, breaking the above constraint? (ByteString basicNew: 1) at: 1 put: (Character value: 128) Levente > otherwise using basically UTF-32 encoding. > - has all en/decoders fixed to do the correct *-encoding to unicode and back > translation > - utilizes the unicode character entry in the input events, so it should be > possible to input all unicode characters on the different keyboards (us, > german, french, russian, etc) > - uses unicode encoding for filenames > - uses unicode encoding for the clipboard > > Hope I didn't leave out anything important :-) > > You still need to pick the correct en/decoder to interpret file contents > correctly, the system just can't know which encoding the file is in (see e.g. > text edit on the mac, you need to set the proper encoding there as well). > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar Theme

by Michael Rueger

On 4/3/2010 11:09 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > did you check on the etoy image? I imgaine that they have their own > repository? Sye AFAIK they don't use Monticello... Michael

April 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar Theme

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Michael Rueger a Ã©crit : >> On 4/3/2010 10:45 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >>> Yet, there are things to be done. Along Sugar theme, gettext support (or >>> any portable equivalent) is necessary. >> Didn't the OLPC people write some import/interface for that? >> Bert should know :-) > > Definitely, Bert help me on that topic so I can I produce a XO bundle and a one-click release of DrGeo in several languages. > A loadable package for Pharo will be great. However, a search of the gettext string in Squeaksource returns nothing. did you check on the etoy image? I imgaine that they have their own repository? Sye > > Hilaire > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar Theme

by Hilaire Fernandes

Michael Rueger a Ã©crit : > On 4/3/2010 10:45 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > >> Yet, there are things to be done. Along Sugar theme, gettext support (or >> any portable equivalent) is necessary. > > Didn't the OLPC people write some import/interface for that? > Bert should know :-) Definitely, Bert help me on that topic so I can I produce a XO bundle and a one-click release of DrGeo in several languages. A loadable package for Pharo will be great. However, a search of the gettext string in Squeaksource returns nothing. Hilaire

April 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar Theme

by Michael Rueger

On 4/3/2010 10:45 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Yet, there are things to be done. Along Sugar theme, gettext support (or > any portable equivalent) is necessary. Didn't the OLPC people write some import/interface for that? Bert should know :-) Michael

April 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sugar Theme

by Hilaire Fernandes

Michael Rueger a Ã©crit : > On 4/2/2010 11:36 PM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I have designed a first -- not finished yet -- Sugar theme for Polymorph > > Nice! Yes, it is a good start. As far as I understand what the Sugar Labs people try to do, they want to propose Sugar as an OS for learning, universally deployable in any kind of devices. I feel it as a great opportunity for Pharo to be there as well, not to mention the huge advantage you got developing an application with Pharo as it become trivially portable. Yet, there are things to be done. Along Sugar theme, gettext support (or any portable equivalent) is necessary. Hilaire > > We did a Sugar like theme for Sophie back then, might be worth checking > in the css and artwork if anything could be reused for > extending/fine-tuning your theme. > > Michael

April 3, 2010