April 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Handle Close Event in Image - necessary for 1.0?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > > On Apr 7, 2010, at 12:38 25PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Thanks Henrik >> this is something I understand. I will integrate that for 1.1 > > Yes, there's some new stuff there which won't work well if we ever move towards multi-window support, but the entire event-handling will have to be rewritten in that case anyways, so I didn't think too much of it. > I'd say the first step in any case would be moving Event-object generation out of the HandMorph class... (did MVC make its own kind of events?) > > Probably a good idea to switch to something reacting to new events in the queue rather than polling it too, if we intend to ever switch the inputEventPollingFetcher for the actual InputEventFetcher some time in the future. Yes I think that we should move to not use a polling of event. > Though, InputEventSensor installEventSensorFramework seems borken on Windows now (eventbuffer overflows with 4.0.2 VM ), and incredibly slow to signal semaphore (albeit not loosing any events anymore in 1.1) on a Mac 4.2.4 VM. On the 5.X series, it works like a dream though :D > > Cheers, > Henry > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] who is maintaining shout?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Ok good to know. Stef >> Maybe add a new Setting for Shout for Pharo 1.1 ? > > Yeah, but it is difficult because the code is built around these > specification arrays. > > You can already today change the settings without touching the code > (in a load script for example): > > SHTextStylerST80 styleTable: #( (comment ( green ) ... ) > > Lukas > >> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: >>> >>>> I absolutely agree with Torsten. Here's one I made myself for VaSt, and >>>> I've been using it for 8 years now: >>>> >>>> <PehuTextEnhancer.png> >>>> >>>> Note (whatever you might think of all the other fonts and colours) that >>>> the comments are green ;-) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: >>>> Stef wrote >>>>> Because I would like to change the default color of comments. >>>>> Green is really ugly for the release. >>>> >>>> Please no! This is subject to personal taste. >>>> >>>> In most text editors and IDE's I know the comments are always >>>> green by default independent from language. >>>> >>>> So I would keep it since this is what is common in developer >>>> tools. If you want you can have your own. So shout is already >>>> what most users may expect. Please keep it. >>>> >>>> See >>>> >>>> C/C++ Eclipse >>>> http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/eclipse_ide_for_c-c++_de… >>>> C/C++ VStudio >>>> http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/4/OptimizeUtilities/51119text-editor-pro-sc… >>>> PHP Antechius >>>> http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/7/HelpfileTools/37086phpedscreen.jpg >>>> JavaScript http://assets.devx.com/articlefigs/19100.png >>>> Java Eclipse >>>> http://www.oio.de/public/opensource/eclipse/eclipse_editor.jpg >>>> C# Eclipse >>>> http://emonic.sourceforge.net/html/CSharpEditorWithCompletion.jpg >>>> VB SharpDevelop http://www.borncity.de/Net/Img/SharpDevelop.jpg >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> T. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! >>>> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Thanks for license agreement :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

you are welcome! There is a lot of simple things to do. On Apr 7, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Justin Langhorst wrote: > No problem StÃ©phane, now I just need to get around to contributing :) > BTW, hi everyone. > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi Justin and Yanni >> >> I checked my mailbox today and saw your license agreement. >> >> Thanks >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Menu navigation

by Tudor Girba

Try this one: Gofer new squeaksource: 'setup'; package: 'Setup'; load. Cheers, Doru On 7 Apr 2010, at 17:55, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I know that people around me use Setup something.... > so probably somebody will mention it to you. > > >>> >>> What you can also do is to define a Script to do it for you and to >>> setup >>> your image the exact way you want. >>> >> Cool, I'll try that. Is there a good place to look for info on how >> to do >> that? > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries

by laurent laffont

Hi Bill, I don't really understand what you're doing, too many mails in my inbox, I'm lost :) What simple test / code can I run to reproduce your problem and try to help you ? It seems interesting. Cheers, Laurent Laffont On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>wrote: > I think there is something wrong with the library searches in 3.11-3. It > is one thing for my hacked together .so to avoid detection due to some > mistake on my part, but has anyone tried ODBC on Linux with the new vm? > It's sitting in /usr/lib like it has always been; the vm should find it, > right? > > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Schwab,Wilhelm K > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 AM > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries > > Hello all, > > I am trying to use the 3.11-3 vm to see if it fixes my double return value > problem, and I cannot get it to load the library to do the test =:0 At this > point, I am just guessing. Can someone who has been successful at it give > me an example? What is the .so file named, how do you refer to it in > #moduleName, where do you put the file relative to the vm? > > Bill > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries

by Dale Henrichs

Bill, I haven't followed your trials and tribulations with libraries, but I do know that starting with version 3.11-3 of the Squeak vm(see 'http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-September/003206.ht…'), the naming conventions for dynamically loaded files was changed to use a _leading_ so. instead of a trailing .so.... Dale ----- "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: | I think there is something wrong with the library searches in 3.11-3. | It is one thing for my hacked together .so to avoid detection due to | some mistake on my part, but has anyone tried ODBC on Linux with the | new vm? It's sitting in /usr/lib like it has always been; the vm | should find it, right? | | Bill | | | -----Original Message----- | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of | Schwab,Wilhelm K | Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 AM | To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries | | Hello all, | | I am trying to use the 3.11-3 vm to see if it fixes my double return | value problem, and I cannot get it to load the library to do the test | =:0 At this point, I am just guessing. Can someone who has been | successful at it give me an example? What is the .so file named, how | do you refer to it in #moduleName, where do you put the file relative | to the vm? | | Bill | | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

I think there is something wrong with the library searches in 3.11-3. It is one thing for my hacked together .so to avoid detection due to some mistake on my part, but has anyone tried ODBC on Linux with the new vm? It's sitting in /usr/lib like it has always been; the vm should find it, right? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Schwab,Wilhelm K Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 AM To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries Hello all, I am trying to use the 3.11-3 vm to see if it fixes my double return value problem, and I cannot get it to load the library to do the test =:0 At this point, I am just guessing. Can someone who has been successful at it give me an example? What is the .so file named, how do you refer to it in #moduleName, where do you put the file relative to the vm? Bill _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] who is maintaining shout?

by Eliot Miranda

Personally I don't mind having the preference in code. Its nice to be able to see what one's settings are in the patch browser. What I mind is the lack of support for temporarily rescinding my change to the method when I commit the monticello package. Yes I can save the image, revert, commit, exit, restart and merge, but that's a RR PITA. Yes I can file-out, revert, commit, file back in. That's much better but still a PITA. Acceptable is to view changes to the package (a Patch Browser), open versions on the method(s) I want to revert, revert in the changed list, commit and then revert. What would be really nice would be a per-method temporary revert check mark in the patch browser, and a commit button in the patch browser that applied the reversions, spawned the save, waiting for it to complete or be closed, and the undid the reversions. Almost as nice would be three buttons, revert checked, save and unrevert checked. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Maybe add a new Setting for Shout for Pharo 1.1 ? > > Yeah, but it is difficult because the code is built around these > specification arrays. > > You can already today change the settings without touching the code > (in a load script for example): > > SHTextStylerST80 styleTable: #( (comment ( green ) ... ) > > Lukas > > > > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: > >> > >> > I absolutely agree with Torsten. Here's one I made myself for VaSt, > and > >> > I've been using it for 8 years now: > >> > > >> > <PehuTextEnhancer.png> > >> > > >> > Note (whatever you might think of all the other fonts and colours) > that > >> > the comments are green ;-) > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Cheers, > >> > Peter > >> > > >> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > wrote: > >> > Stef wrote > >> > >Because I would like to change the default color of comments. > >> > >Green is really ugly for the release. > >> > > >> > Please no! This is subject to personal taste. > >> > > >> > In most text editors and IDE's I know the comments are always > >> > green by default independent from language. > >> > > >> > So I would keep it since this is what is common in developer > >> > tools. If you want you can have your own. So shout is already > >> > what most users may expect. Please keep it. > >> > > >> > See > >> > > >> > C/C++ Eclipse > >> > > http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/eclipse_ide_for_c-c++_de… > >> > C/C++ VStudio > >> > > http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/4/OptimizeUtilities/51119text-editor-pro-sc… > >> > PHP Antechius > >> > http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/7/HelpfileTools/37086phpedscreen.jpg > >> > JavaScript http://assets.devx.com/articlefigs/19100.png > >> > Java Eclipse > >> > http://www.oio.de/public/opensource/eclipse/eclipse_editor.jpg > >> > C# Eclipse > >> > http://emonic.sourceforge.net/html/CSharpEditorWithCompletion.jpg > >> > VB SharpDevelop http://www.borncity.de/Net/Img/SharpDevelop.jpg > >> > ... > >> > > >> > Bye > >> > T. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > >> > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Pharo-project mailing list > >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Pharo-project mailing list > >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Thanks for license agreement :)

by Justin Langhorst

No problem StÃ©phane, now I just need to get around to contributing :) BTW, hi everyone. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:41 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi Justin and Yanni > > I checked my mailbox today and saw your license agreement. > > Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] who is maintaining shout?

by Lukas Renggli

> Maybe add a new Setting for Shout for Pharo 1.1 ? Yeah, but it is difficult because the code is built around these specification arrays. You can already today change the settings without touching the code (in a load script for example): SHTextStylerST80 styleTable: #( (comment ( green ) ... ) Lukas > >> >> Stef >> >> On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:34 PM, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: >> >> > I absolutely agree with Torsten. Here's one I made myself for VaSt, and >> > I've been using it for 8 years now: >> > >> > <PehuTextEnhancer.png> >> > >> > Note (whatever you might think of all the other fonts and colours) that >> > the comments are green ;-) >> > >> > -- >> > Cheers, >> > Peter >> > >> > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> > Stef wrote >> > >Because I would like to change the default color of comments. >> > >Green is really ugly for the release. >> > >> > Please no! This is subject to personal taste. >> > >> > In most text editors and IDE's I know the comments are always >> > green by default independent from language. >> > >> > So I would keep it since this is what is common in developer >> > tools. If you want you can have your own. So shout is already >> > what most users may expect. Please keep it. >> > >> > See >> > >> > C/C++ Eclipse >> > http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/eclipse_ide_for_c-c++_de… >> > C/C++ VStudio >> > http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/4/OptimizeUtilities/51119text-editor-pro-sc… >> > PHP Antechius >> > http://www.lisisoft.com/imglisi/7/HelpfileTools/37086phpedscreen.jpg >> > JavaScript Â Â Â http://assets.devx.com/articlefigs/19100.png >> > Java Eclipse >> > Â http://www.oio.de/public/opensource/eclipse/eclipse_editor.jpg >> > C# Eclipse >> > Â http://emonic.sourceforge.net/html/CSharpEditorWithCompletion.jpg >> > VB SharpDevelop http://www.borncity.de/Net/Img/SharpDevelop.jpg >> > ... >> > >> > Bye >> > T. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! >> > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

April 7, 2010