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Re: [Pharo-project] How to manage todo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Apr 8, 2010, at 8:56 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:48 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > tx > I checked the inria task is too complex (the idea is to manage dependency and produce gantt about tasks). > > > Like this: http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/0.12 ? I do not know I could not understand it I have the iumpression that we tasks with optionally an order notion but not been forced to enter start date, dependency, estimated number of hours. Stef

April 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How to manage todo?

by laurent laffont

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:48 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > tx > I checked the inria task is too complex (the idea is to manage dependency > and produce gantt about tasks). > Like this: http://trac.edgewall.org/milestone/0.12 ? Laurent Laffont > > Stef > > > In Moose we use mainly: > > Type-Engineering = (Re)engineering the code base to enhance its > quality > > Type-Defect = Report of a software defect > > Type-Enhancement = Request for enhancement > > > > and from time to time: > > Type-Project = Long-term project or autonomous task > > Type-Review = Request for a code review > > Type-Other = Some other kind of issue > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > On 7 Apr 2010, at 16:30, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > >>> I propose that we use > >>>> > >>>> Type-Task or Type-ToDo for the management of some items that are not > directly bug. > >>>> Marcus? adrian? is it ok for you? > >>> > >>> As a frist step good. I personally would like to destinguish bugs from > feature requests. Bugs > >>> are bad and I want as little as possible. Feature request are good and > I want as many as possible... > >>> > >>> Another aspect is: Bugs I feel kind of responsible to fix. Feature > request I say: If this is really important, > >>> someone will do it. (someone not me). > >> > >> Ok I like this distinction. I will recategorise. > >> I added some TODO items (like going to the prefecture) > >> > >> Stef > >> > >>> > >>> Marcus > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > >>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CollabActive book :)

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Aaron and Dale added the missing Shout plugin for Pier. Now, using == at the beginning of the line shows highlighted code. Cheers, Doru On 7 Apr 2010, at 10:36, Simon Denier wrote: > Doru, another missing thing in the current config is the == syntax > for Smalltalk highlighting > See http://book.pharo-project.org/book/announcements/client -- www.tudorgirba.com "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter."

April 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Show Actions of a SystemWindow: bug?

by Carla F. Griggio

Whoops! It is Morph>> showActions :P I'll submit the bug and the fix :) I don't usually use that menu either, but I was playing with Morphs and I recalled that I had seen that menu before and it could be usefull. Actually, I didn't remember how to open it, I tried several key combinations until I got it, hehehe. On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:45 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > add a bug entry :) > > On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > 2010/4/6 Carla F. Griggio <carla.griggio(a)gmail.com> > > Hello! > > > > I was fooling around with the latest rc3 image and I tried to use the > "show actions" option in the menu of a SystemWindow and got this: > > > > MessageNotUnderstood: ToolSet class>>openMessageList:name:autoSelect: > > ToolSet class(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: > #openMessageList:name:autoSelect: > > SystemWindow(Morph)>>showActions > > [] in ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: > > BlockClosure>>ensure: > > CursorWithMask(Cursor)>>showWhile: > > ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>invokeWithEvent: > > ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>mouseUp: > > ToggleMenuItemMorph(MenuItemMorph)>>handleMouseUp: > > MouseButtonEvent>>sentTo: > > ... > > > > This is the code in SystemWindow>>showActions: > > > > > > Actually, it is Morph >> showActions ;) > > > > > > > > > > ToolSet openMessageList: list name: 'Actions of ' , self > printString autoSelect: false > > > > Shouldn't the last line be MessageSet openMessageList: list name: > 'Actions of ' , self printString autoSelect: nil ? I tried it and it seemed > to work OK, although I never tried that option before so I don't know what > was it's original behaviour. > > > > > > > > I think your change is correct and it works. > > It is funny it is almost the first time in my life I do a ctrl + click > hahaha I saw that menu one or two times in my life :) > > > > Even more, I checked and it is broken since, at least, Squeak 3.9 haha > > > > So..Carla, can you open a bug ticket and submit the fix ? > > > > http://www.pharo-project.org/community/issue-tracking > > > > Thanks and good catch! > > > > Mariano > > > > > > Cheers! > > Carla. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

April 8, 2010

[Pharo-project] Potato and jSqueak ...

by James Ladd

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April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries

by Dale Henrichs

In the link there's also mention of a change in the search path ... Dale ----- "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: | Dale, | | That *cannot* be the only option for arbitrary external libraries - | that will break things like odbc, or at best force people to create | links in order to compensate. Hopefully, you are thinking of | plugins. | | Bill | | | | | -----Original Message----- | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Dale | Henrichs | Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:19 PM | To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries | | Bill, | | I haven't followed your trials and tribulations with libraries, but I | do know that starting with version 3.11-3 of the Squeak vm(see | 'http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-September/003206.ht…'), | the naming conventions for dynamically loaded files was changed to use | a _leading_ so. instead of a trailing .so.... | | Dale | ----- "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: | | | I think there is something wrong with the library searches in | 3.11-3. | | It is one thing for my hacked together .so to avoid detection due to | | | some mistake on my part, but has anyone tried ODBC on Linux with the | | | new vm? It's sitting in /usr/lib like it has always been; the vm | | should find it, right? | | | | Bill | | | | | | -----Original Message----- | | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of | | Schwab,Wilhelm K | | Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 AM | | To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; | | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | Subject: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries | | | | Hello all, | | | | I am trying to use the 3.11-3 vm to see if it fixes my double return | | | value problem, and I cannot get it to load the library to do the | test | | =:0 At this point, I am just guessing. Can someone who has been | | successful at it give me an example? What is the .so file named, | how | | do you refer to it in #moduleName, where do you put the file | relative | | to the vm? | | | | Bill | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | Pharo-project mailing list | | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | | | | _______________________________________________ | | Pharo-project mailing list | | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Laurent, Probably the best starting point is to install the odbc package and use it to connect to a datasource. Then load the new vm and see if breaks. Thanks!! Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of laurent laffont Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:35 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries Hi Bill, I don't really understand what you're doing, too many mails in my inbox, I'm lost :) What simple test / code can I run to reproduce your problem and try to help you ? It seems interesting. Cheers, Laurent Laffont On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu<mailto:bschwab@anest.ufl.edu>> wrote: I think there is something wrong with the library searches in 3.11-3. It is one thing for my hacked together .so to avoid detection due to some mistake on my part, but has anyone tried ODBC on Linux with the new vm? It's sitting in /usr/lib like it has always been; the vm should find it, right? Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr>] On Behalf Of Schwab,Wilhelm K Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 AM To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> Subject: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries Hello all, I am trying to use the 3.11-3 vm to see if it fixes my double return value problem, and I cannot get it to load the library to do the test =:0 At this point, I am just guessing. Can someone who has been successful at it give me an example? What is the .so file named, how do you refer to it in #moduleName, where do you put the file relative to the vm? Bill _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Dale, That *cannot* be the only option for arbitrary external libraries - that will break things like odbc, or at best force people to create links in order to compensate. Hopefully, you are thinking of plugins. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Dale Henrichs Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 1:19 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Cc: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries Bill, I haven't followed your trials and tribulations with libraries, but I do know that starting with version 3.11-3 of the Squeak vm(see 'http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-September/003206.ht…'), the naming conventions for dynamically loaded files was changed to use a _leading_ so. instead of a trailing .so.... Dale ----- "Wilhelm K Schwab" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: | I think there is something wrong with the library searches in 3.11-3. | It is one thing for my hacked together .so to avoid detection due to | some mistake on my part, but has anyone tried ODBC on Linux with the | new vm? It's sitting in /usr/lib like it has always been; the vm | should find it, right? | | Bill | | | -----Original Message----- | From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of | Schwab,Wilhelm K | Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 10:57 AM | To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | Subject: [Pharo-project] Linux 3.11-3 vm and shared libraries | | Hello all, | | I am trying to use the 3.11-3 vm to see if it fixes my double return | value problem, and I cannot get it to load the library to do the test | =:0 At this point, I am just guessing. Can someone who has been | successful at it give me an example? What is the .so file named, how | do you refer to it in #moduleName, where do you put the file relative | to the vm? | | Bill | | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CollabActive book :)

by Michael Roberts

so it seems that indeed it is fine at home. I confirmed that the in the former setup, the redirects (I assume) go missing. every execution of the command goes back to the the page I started from. Even the edit of a typo on a page, caused the page to reload and revert the edit. anyway i was only testing it out at lunch, it is not a big problem. cheers Mike

April 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] How to manage todo?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

tx I checked the inria task is too complex (the idea is to manage dependency and produce gantt about tasks). Stef > In Moose we use mainly: > Type-Engineering = (Re)engineering the code base to enhance its quality > Type-Defect = Report of a software defect > Type-Enhancement = Request for enhancement > > and from time to time: > Type-Project = Long-term project or autonomous task > Type-Review = Request for a code review > Type-Other = Some other kind of issue > > Cheers, > Doru > > On 7 Apr 2010, at 16:30, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >>> I propose that we use >>>> >>>> Type-Task or Type-ToDo for the management of some items that are not directly bug. >>>> Marcus? adrian? is it ok for you? >>> >>> As a frist step good. I personally would like to destinguish bugs from feature requests. Bugs >>> are bad and I want as little as possible. Feature request are good and I want as many as possible... >>> >>> Another aspect is: Bugs I feel kind of responsible to fix. Feature request I say: If this is really important, >>> someone will do it. (someone not me). >> >> Ok I like this distinction. I will recategorise. >> I added some TODO items (like going to the prefecture) >> >> Stef >> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Sometimes the best solution is not the best solution." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

April 7, 2010