March 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] What is the best way to...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Damien did a package to print latex but I do not know its status. I'm still dreaming about a Visitor over package, class.... that would produce fileout html tex Stef On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > generate a document with the source code of a package? > We will use pharo at the university and I want to find an easy way for the students to print out the source code of their work. > > Thanks. > Hernan. > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] NewTextMorph status

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Fernando olivero wrote: > Now we have in Pharo the following: > > Morph | Editor > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > EntryFieldMorph | SimpleEditor > NewTextMorph | TextEditor > MethodMorph | SmalltalkEditor > ClassDefinitionMorph | SmalltalkEditor > > NewTextMorph is a cleanup version based on TextMorph, that is still missing some functionality. > MethodMorph and ClassDefinitonMorph are NewTextMorph for specifically viewing and editing methods and classes. > > I did a couple of tests also, and examples. > > TODO: menu support (easily done), OB and Glamour integration( high complexity?), OCompletion(fairly easy, i will work with romain on this). > > > Stef, should i use the lastest 1.1 image as the base for preparing the SLICE? please Now Fernando when you are talking about MethodMorph and ClassDefinitionMorph this is for your ide? So may be you should keep that for you? Or/and are you saying that we should have a new SmalltalkCodeMorph that has a SmalltalkEditor? Stef

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CompiledMethod>>#asString

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

open an issue. :) stef On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Fernando olivero wrote: > (Object>>#name) asString class = Text > > Maybe we should named it 'asText' and use Lukas amazing rewriting rules to use that one instead. > > Fernando > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] squeaksource is down....

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I asked to see if we can have a support for a webdav server for pharo core packages here but they are flooded ... Because I imagine that the pharo folder is getting to explode one of these days. Stef On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:51 AM, Geert Claes wrote: > > on another note ... SqueakSource probably needs an overhaul doesn't it ... > whatever happened to SourceTalk? > -- > View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/squeaksource-is-down-tp1592562p1593040.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] About long tests.

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

cool! On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:16 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Name: Gofer-Tests-lr.117 > Author: lr > Time: 16 March 2010, 10:12:10 am > UUID: 884f7d2b-6035-4f66-9ec3-28371a77beac > Ancestors: Gofer-Tests-lr.116 > > - made tests run faster > > in the Pharo inbox is about 30% faster. > > Lukas > > On 16 March 2010 09:13, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Btw, I am running the Pharo tests in my builds now too: >> >> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Pharo/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/(roo… >> >> Click on duration twice to see the tests sorted by run-time. I feel a >> bit bad that the slowest test case is one that I wrote. I'll see if I >> can speed that up some more. >> >> Lukas >> >> On 15 March 2010 20:56, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> Hi jorge >>> >>> did you publish the cleans for the tests you did during the sprint? >>> >>> Thanks Stef >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] About long tests.

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

focus on the paper jorge coding only for the fun :) We have time. Stef On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Jorge Ressia wrote: > Hi, > > No, I have to finish that. Is still in my todo list. > I'll try to make some time today to look into that. > > Cheers, > > Jorge > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: >> Yes, it would be very good to have faster tests. In my experience, if tests take too long to run, you don't use them. >> >> During the sprint in Lille, Jorge started to sort out long running tests from the rest and make them subclass from SlowTestCase (or something similar). >> >> Cheers, >> Adrian >> >> >> On Mar 16, 2010, at 09:13 , Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>> Btw, I am running the Pharo tests in my builds now too: >>> >>> http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Pharo/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/(roo… >>> >>> Click on duration twice to see the tests sorted by run-time. I feel a >>> bit bad that the slowest test case is one that I wrote. I'll see if I >>> can speed that up some more. >>> >>> Lukas >>> >>> On 15 March 2010 20:56, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>> Hi jorge >>>> >>>> did you publish the cleans for the tests you did during the sprint? >>>> >>>> Thanks Stef >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] About long tests.

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Btw, I am running the Pharo tests in my builds now too: > > http://hudson.lukas-renggli.ch/job/Pharo/lastCompletedBuild/testReport/(roo… > > Click on duration twice to see the tests sorted by run-time. I feel a > bit bad that the slowest test case is one that I wrote. I'll see if I > can speed that up some more. lol :) It is on my todo to read the mail of yanni on hudson. Stef > > Lukas > > On 15 March 2010 20:56, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: >> Hi jorge >> >> did you publish the cleans for the tests you did during the sprint? >> >> Thanks Stef >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Code Freeze 1.1?

by Alexandre Bergel

Moose, including Mondrian and Spy load well in Pharo 1.1. No big effort were needed for this. I haven't seen that many problems in porting applications to 1.1. The only thing I bumped into so far, are initialExtent (but apparently this was fixed) and tool registration. Alexandre On 16 Mar 2010, at 07:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > + 1 > end of march for a code freeze would be great. > Stef > > > On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Now with 1.0 done, I think we should think about freezing 1.1. >> >> The main reason of course is that 1.1 is *far more pleasent* to use >> than 1.0. The other >> thing is that 1.1 did change quite some things that have impact on >> external code (Preferences, >> as an example). >> >> So I think we should >> >> -> start slowing down on 1.1 (Stef suggested that already) >> -> start polishing (tests...) >> -> start to look at the Dev image. >> -> Official code freeze end of March. >> -> Release if possible end of April (this of course depends on the >> state of things). >> >> >> Any reasons against? >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Code Freeze 1.1?

by Alexandre Bergel

>>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26668/PharoCore-1.0-10515rc3.zip Alexandre On 16 Mar 2010, at 06:53, Tudor Girba wrote: > I do not see it from the website. Where can I get it from? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 16 Mar 2010, at 10:42, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is 1.0 already released? >>> >> Not yet, but we hope that RC3 is the last... >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> On 16 Mar 2010, at 10:19, Marcus Denker wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Now with 1.0 done, I think we should think about freezing 1.1. >>>> >>>> The main reason of course is that 1.1 is *far more pleasent* to >>>> use than 1.0. The other >>>> thing is that 1.1 did change quite some things that have impact >>>> on external code (Preferences, >>>> as an example). >>>> >>>> So I think we should >>>> >>>> -> start slowing down on 1.1 (Stef suggested that already) >>>> -> start polishing (tests...) >>>> -> start to look at the Dev image. >>>> -> Official code freeze end of March. >>>> -> Release if possible end of April (this of course depends on >>>> the state of things). >>>> >>>> >>>> Any reasons against? >>>> >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Some battles are better lost than fought." >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "From an abstract enough point of view, any two things are similar." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "The coherence of a trip is given by the clearness of the goal." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Code Freeze 1.1?

by Henrik Johansen

Trying to load Magma after the announcement yesterday, I ran into issues with 4 causes: - Flaps removal - MethodProperties removal - Underscore assignement - Network :P Obviously, the tests were hard to run without a network, some of the Collection tests seemed to run excessively long as well (in that I alt-. before they finished). There's also the Preferences deprecation, which is bound to cause some work. Cheers, Henry On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:10 39PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Moose, including Mondrian and Spy load well in Pharo 1.1. No big effort were needed for this. > I haven't seen that many problems in porting applications to 1.1. > > The only thing I bumped into so far, are initialExtent (but apparently this was fixed) and tool registration. > > Alexandre > > > On 16 Mar 2010, at 07:50, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> + 1 >> end of march for a code freeze would be great. >> Stef >> >> >> On Mar 16, 2010, at 10:19 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Now with 1.0 done, I think we should think about freezing 1.1. >>> >>> The main reason of course is that 1.1 is *far more pleasent* to use than 1.0. The other >>> thing is that 1.1 did change quite some things that have impact on external code (Preferences, >>> as an example). >>> >>> So I think we should >>> >>> -> start slowing down on 1.1 (Stef suggested that already) >>> -> start polishing (tests...) >>> -> start to look at the Dev image. >>> -> Official code freeze end of March. >>> -> Release if possible end of April (this of course depends on the state of things). >>> >>> >>> Any reasons against? >>> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 16, 2010