March 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] classNameCache/classNames problem

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

yes I know I was waiting that marcus integrates the fix I proposed for image Since it contains also some fix for initialExtent. I will do it. and integrate another fix for initialExtent try Model>>initialExtent ^ RealEstateAgent standardWindowExtent On Mar 18, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:31 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Thanks pavel > the Smalltalk -> SmalltalkImage current is not finished so any fix is welcomed. > I have some admin work today and will try to find soem times to fix that. > > > I tried to run tests in Pharo 1.1 #11275 and then I got an error when > > trying to open Message Names. The reason is that if you evaluate > > > > Smalltalk classNames includes: #C1 > > > > you got true so Smalltalk classNames includes it however it is not > > present in Smalltalk globals. After Smalltalk flushClassNameCache the > > problem disapeared. > > > > If I tried to create a class named SomeClass, the result was: > > > > Smalltalk classNames includes: #SomeClass -> false > > Smalltalk globals at: #SomeClass -> SomeClass > > > > I had to remove Object>>#initialExtent because of neverending > > deperecation warning (a methods tries respondsTo: #initialExtent on a > > model. > > Oh yesssss. ARGH. My mistake. Indeed some models should not implement intialExtent > and it falls back on Object.... stupid me. > but this is strange because I run all the tests and besides > > > Stef: I am trying to run the tests on 11277 and it is impossible because of the amount of warnings about that deprecation in Object >> initialContext. > > I would commit a slice but I am not sure what should be done. > > Thanks > > Mariano > > > > > > I don't know which one because Recent Submissions doesn't work > > because of method reference > > AutoGeneratedClassForTestingSystemChanges>>#Comment anwered nil on > > actualClass message) > > > > -- Pavel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] classNameCache/classNames problem

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 9:31 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > Thanks pavel > the Smalltalk -> SmalltalkImage current is not finished so any fix is > welcomed. > I have some admin work today and will try to find soem times to fix that. > > > I tried to run tests in Pharo 1.1 #11275 and then I got an error when > > trying to open Message Names. The reason is that if you evaluate > > > > Smalltalk classNames includes: #C1 > > > > you got true so Smalltalk classNames includes it however it is not > > present in Smalltalk globals. After Smalltalk flushClassNameCache the > > problem disapeared. > > > > If I tried to create a class named SomeClass, the result was: > > > > Smalltalk classNames includes: #SomeClass -> false > > Smalltalk globals at: #SomeClass -> SomeClass > > > > I had to remove Object>>#initialExtent because of neverending > > deperecation warning (a methods tries respondsTo: #initialExtent on a > > model. > > Oh yesssss. ARGH. My mistake. Indeed some models should not implement > intialExtent > and it falls back on Object.... stupid me. > but this is strange because I run all the tests and besides > > Stef: I am trying to run the tests on 11277 and it is impossible because of the amount of warnings about that deprecation in Object >> initialContext. I would commit a slice but I am not sure what should be done. Thanks Mariano > > > I don't know which one because Recent Submissions doesn't work > > because of method reference > > AutoGeneratedClassForTestingSystemChanges>>#Comment anwered nil on > > actualClass message) > > > > -- Pavel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Traits and PHP

by Alexandre Bergel

>> Some people are working at google to make traits part of Javascript. > > How do traits fit into a prototype model? Has anybody written about > that? We wrote the following: http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1615200 http://bergel.eu/download/papers/Cuts09aTraitAmbienttalk.pdf Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A challenge for us

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

2010/3/18 GermÃ¡n Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com>: > 2010/3/18 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no>: >> >> I guess the correct incantation was (ConfigurationOfPharo project version: >> '1.0-rc3.10515') load. :) >> We really should set up a backup repository with all the packages included >> in specs though. >> Older versions have already stopped working twice now due to package >> deletions, first FFI, and then RB. >> F.ex, doing (ConfigurationOfPharo project version: '1.0-rc2.10508') load in >> a 10508rc2 Core image will now fail. >> Cheers, >> Henry > > I tried (ConfigurationOfPharo project version: '1.0-rc3.10515') load > on 1.1UNSTABLE #11277 and > fail with "TheWorldMenu class DNU #registerOpenCommand: " > After some more tries, passing somethings I arrive to a stopper error: UndefinedObject(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #asSymbol when installing AST-Core-lr.66.

March 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Traits and PHP

by Alexandre Bergel

I would probably not try to convince the whole community. We all know that it does not work. Just focus on the smartest people, which might not be the one that shout the most :-) Cheers, Alexandre On 18 Mar 2010, at 09:27, Stefan Marr wrote: > > On 18 Mar 2010, at 14:19, laurent laffont wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> it seems that the PHP people think about including Traits in the >> next PHP major release: http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=126875515019687&w=2 > Indeed, we do ;) > But there is still no agreement on the language design and the > functionality... > > Best regards > Stefan > > > >> >> Laurent Laffont >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > Stefan Marr > Software Languages Lab > Vrije Universiteit Brussel > Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium > http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr > Phone: +32 2 629 2974 > Fax: +32 2 629 3525 > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Traits and PHP

by Alexandre Bergel

They have been discussing that for a while already. Back in January 2008 I was discussing with Stefan about the proposal for PHP. Some people are working at google to make traits part of Javascript. Cheers, Alexandre On 18 Mar 2010, at 09:19, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > it seems that the PHP people think about including Traits in the > next PHP major release: http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=126875515019687&w=2 > > Laurent Laffont > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

March 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] A challenge for us

by GermÃ¡n Arduino

2010/3/18 Henrik Johansen <henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no>: > > I guess the correct incantation was (ConfigurationOfPharo project version: > '1.0-rc3.10515') load. :) > We really should set up a backup repository with all the packages included > in specs though. > Older versions have already stopped working twice now due to package > deletions, first FFI, and then RB. > F.ex, doing (ConfigurationOfPharo project version: '1.0-rc2.10508') load in > a 10508rc2 Core image will now fail. > Cheers, > Henry I tried (ConfigurationOfPharo project version: '1.0-rc3.10515') load on 1.1UNSTABLE #11277 and fail with "TheWorldMenu class DNU #registerOpenCommand: "

March 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Traits and PHP

by Stefan Marr

On 18 Mar 2010, at 14:35, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> Some people are working at google to make traits part of Javascript. > > How do traits fit into a prototype model? Has anybody written about that? Tom Van Cutsem, Alexandre Bergel, StÃ©phane Ducasse, Wolfgang De Meuter: Adding State and Visibility Control to Traits Using Lexical Nesting. ECOOP 2009: 220-243 And at least in the beginning, Tom[1] was thinking about something along the lines of what I called 'grafts' in my RFC for PHP[2]. But since the reference is gone, I guess he is up to something different now. Best regards Stefan [1] http://code.google.com/p/es-lab/wiki/Traits [2] http://wiki.php.net/rfc/horizontalreuse > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Stefan Marr Software Languages Lab Vrije Universiteit Brussel Pleinlaan 2 / B-1050 Brussels / Belgium http://soft.vub.ac.be/~smarr Phone: +32 2 629 2974 Fax: +32 2 629 3525

March 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Traits and PHP

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

check the ecoop paper of tom and also the google project Stef On Mar 18, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> Some people are working at google to make traits part of Javascript. > > How do traits fit into a prototype model? Has anybody written about that? > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Traits and PHP

by Lukas Renggli

> Some people are working at google to make traits part of Javascript. How do traits fit into a prototype model? Has anybody written about that? Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

March 18, 2010