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Re: [Pharo-project] Deprecation TheWorldMenu in Pharo 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks lukas Stef On Mar 19, 2010, at 5:53 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Yeah, the class comment says: "Just a placeholder so that old code can > still load." > > However since all methods are missing old code doesn't load any better > than if the complete class would be gone. > > The following commit in the inbox adds a few deprecated messages that. > That should improve the situation and make old code loadable again. > > Name: Morphic-LukasRenggli.551 > Author: lr > Time: 19 March 2010, 5:50:07 pm > UUID: 7962d62e-ae62-45e2-b950-2fa8c9b7145a > Ancestors: Morphic-StephaneDucasse.550 > > - added some depreacated methods to TheWorldMenu > > Lukas > > > > > On 19 March 2010 17:04, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> We should probably add the methods back so that people can load they code. >> >> >> On Mar 19, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>> What is the point of leaving the empty class TheWorldMenu in Pharo >>> 1.1? Obviously it is deprecated, but then all its methods are removed. >>> >>> I run across code like the following one in numerous packages: >>> >>> Smalltalk at: #TheWorldMenu ifPresent: >>> [:theWorldMenu | theWorldMenu registerOpenCommand: >>> { 'RFB/VNC Server' . { RFBServerGUI . #open } . >>> 'Configure access to this desktop from remote VNC viewers.' }] >>> >>> Of course this now fails, because the class is there but none of its >>> code? Would it be possible to either entirely remove the class or add >>> deprecated methods (they don't even need to do anything)? >>> >>> Lukas >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Deprecation TheWorldMenu in Pharo 1.1

by Lukas Renggli

Yeah, the class comment says: "Just a placeholder so that old code can still load." However since all methods are missing old code doesn't load any better than if the complete class would be gone. The following commit in the inbox adds a few deprecated messages that. That should improve the situation and make old code loadable again. Name: Morphic-LukasRenggli.551 Author: lr Time: 19 March 2010, 5:50:07 pm UUID: 7962d62e-ae62-45e2-b950-2fa8c9b7145a Ancestors: Morphic-StephaneDucasse.550 - added some depreacated methods to TheWorldMenu Lukas On 19 March 2010 17:04, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > We should probably add the methods back so that people can load they code. > > > On Mar 19, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> What is the point of leaving the empty class TheWorldMenu in Pharo >> 1.1? Obviously it is deprecated, but then all its methods are removed. >> >> I run across code like the following one in numerous packages: >> >> Â Â Â Smalltalk at: #TheWorldMenu ifPresent: >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â [:theWorldMenu | Â theWorldMenu registerOpenCommand: >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â { 'RFB/VNC Server' . { RFBServerGUI . #open } . >> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â 'Configure access to this desktop from remote VNC viewers.' }] >> >> Of course this now fails, because the class is there but none of its >> code? Would it be possible to either entirely remove the class or add >> deprecated methods (they don't even need to do anything)? >> >> Lukas >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

March 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Here's my problems...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Good can you open a ticket.... (running to catch the kids). Stef On Mar 19, 2010, at 2:12 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > So far so good.. > found DNU: > Utilities noteMethodSubmission: #Comment forClass: cls > > while filing in the .st code > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Here's my problems...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes I know. May be we should hide the other. I know that INRIA will restart the forge from scratch. Stef On Mar 19, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > On Mar 19, 2010, at 12:42 24PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> my mistake, that i'm using old image... >> >> its a bit confusing that pharo-dev images downloads listed first >> and they are pretty outdated. >> >> I just loaded PhaoCore1.1.-11268 >> will try there. >> At least , pressing Alt-. no longer hangs an image >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > Agreed, 1.1Core downloads are waaaaay down there :( > > As for why the interrupt makes image unresponsive, iirc, there was something in the debugger which needed reinitialization after the new WeakSet was imported. > Can't remember what off the tip of my head though... > > Cheers, > Henry > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] String widgets for GUIs built using ToolBuilder

by Lukas Renggli

> input field label string. There has to be a better, standard, way of doing this. > Can someone tell me what the standard way, or some reasonable way, > of labeling my input field is when using ToolBuilder? I don't exactly understand what you want to do? ToolBuilder provides an abstraction over Morphic. It simplifies the whole interface, but also hides many possibilities that you would have using Morphic directly. Especially now that in Pharo you have a nice and much more powerful interface to build Morphic GUIs through "UITheme current" I would suggest that you use this one. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

March 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Sets with nils using SetElement(s)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

cool I'm waiting for martin. Stef On Mar 19, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > i added a changesets into a corresponding tracker issue (#1907) > > please, be advised, that in Squeak it was adopted after > HashedCollection refactoring. > And a scope of changes is wider than my own (it includes KeyedSet and > KeyedIdentitySet, which i haven't touched before). > > Still, all tests are green, > except there is unimplemented #errorNoFreeSpace , which can be found > in trunk's HashedCollection ). > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Deprecation TheWorldMenu in Pharo 1.1

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

We should probably add the methods back so that people can load they code. On Mar 19, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > What is the point of leaving the empty class TheWorldMenu in Pharo > 1.1? Obviously it is deprecated, but then all its methods are removed. > > I run across code like the following one in numerous packages: > > Smalltalk at: #TheWorldMenu ifPresent: > [:theWorldMenu | theWorldMenu registerOpenCommand: > { 'RFB/VNC Server' . { RFBServerGUI . #open } . > 'Configure access to this desktop from remote VNC viewers.' }] > > Of course this now fails, because the class is there but none of its > code? Would it be possible to either entirely remove the class or add > deprecated methods (they don't even need to do anything)? > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [GS/SS Beta] ESUG selected as GSoC 2010 mentoring organization!!!!

by Carla F. Griggio

This is great! I read that Google also prioritized organizations that had not participated before, in order to give them more visibility to the whole programmers community. So this is a *big *opportunity gain popularity :) Congratulations! On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Smalltalkers! > > Maybe you are not aware of what our selection to this year GSoC really > means for the Smalltalk community. And I wasn't aware completely until few > hours. Just to give you an example, even such big organizations like Ruby or > PHP where not selected. From this viewpoint you can see what we have > achieved. > > Some people said and still says that Smalltalk is old and that it is dead. > Ok, we have been selected by the major Informatics and Software company all > over the world. > > The point is that ESUG and the Smalltalk community was selected because of > the seriousness mixed with passion of all the application, project and > ideas. We have an incredible high quality list of ideas and mentors. > > We have a unique opportunity to show the rest of the world why we love > Smalltalk, why it is much better than other alternatives, etc. So, we invite > all of you to make this happens. > > Thanks to everybody for all the congratulations and nice words!!! > > Your GSoC admins > > esug.gsoc.adm2010(a)gmail.com > > http://gsoc2010.esug.org > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> We are incredibly proud to announce that ESUG was selected for the GSoC >> 2010. We have a long list of wonderful projects, mentors and a cool website. >> >> >> We want to thank you to all the people who help us publishing project >> ideas, giving feedback on the submit text or the English, etc. >> >> For the moment, we don't know the slots (amount of projects) that we will >> receive. >> >> Don't worry. We will contact you again very soon to let you know the >> following steps. >> >> Now, prepare yourself. We have to show the rest of the world why we love >> Smalltalk so much :) >> >> Thank you very much. >> >> The very happy GSoC admin team >> > >

March 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ESUG selected as GSoC 2010 mentoring organization!!!!

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Smalltalkers! Maybe you are not aware of what our selection to this year GSoC really means for the Smalltalk community. And I wasn't aware completely until few hours. Just to give you an example, even such big organizations like Ruby or PHP where not selected. From this viewpoint you can see what we have achieved. Some people said and still says that Smalltalk is old and that it is dead. Ok, we have been selected by the major Informatics and Software company all over the world. The point is that ESUG and the Smalltalk community was selected because of the seriousness mixed with passion of all the application, project and ideas. We have an incredible high quality list of ideas and mentors. We have a unique opportunity to show the rest of the world why we love Smalltalk, why it is much better than other alternatives, etc. So, we invite all of you to make this happens. Thanks to everybody for all the congratulations and nice words!!! Your GSoC admins esug.gsoc.adm2010(a)gmail.com http://gsoc2010.esug.org On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > We are incredibly proud to announce that ESUG was selected for the GSoC > 2010. We have a long list of wonderful projects, mentors and a cool website. > > > We want to thank you to all the people who help us publishing project > ideas, giving feedback on the submit text or the English, etc. > > For the moment, we don't know the slots (amount of projects) that we will > receive. > > Don't worry. We will contact you again very soon to let you know the > following steps. > > Now, prepare yourself. We have to show the rest of the world why we love > Smalltalk so much :) > > Thank you very much. > > The very happy GSoC admin team >

March 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] Sets with nils using SetElement(s)

by Igor Stasenko

i added a changesets into a corresponding tracker issue (#1907) please, be advised, that in Squeak it was adopted after HashedCollection refactoring. And a scope of changes is wider than my own (it includes KeyedSet and KeyedIdentitySet, which i haven't touched before). Still, all tests are green, except there is unimplemented #errorNoFreeSpace , which can be found in trunk's HashedCollection ). -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 19, 2010