March 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] funny behavior with MC

by Lukas Renggli

> So this is probably a glitch somewhere I doubt so. > Lukas: I ***KNOW*** how MC branching/merging works. I KNOW IT. Now I'm trying to understand how the moved package > could be moved in treated while it should have been to pharo. I imagine that when you browsed the different repositories you touched the version and Monticello copied it to its cache. So it isn't enough to know how merging exactly works, but you need to know all the exact semantics of each mouse movement in the MC UI :-) Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

March 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] Searching for references

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks. Today I were talking with Noury and from our point of view, there is a bug in the Class references. Forget about refactoring browser. Right now, if you look for the references of a class, it ONLY searches literal matches in the source code of methods. It doesn't take into account for example if you have subclasses. In the abstract speaking, if there are subclasses, isn't that considered a reference ? Even more, the tool would be much more useful if it can find such information. Several times, I look for references of a class I don't know and that I think it can be removed. I look references, zero. Excellent, I can removed. But then....I realized it has a subclass and that class is referenced in 200000 places...fresh example: DummySuperclassOfColorPickerMorph. In summary, it would be great if subclasses can be tacking into account also. Or at least I don't know, create another menu entry for that... I am the only one who think that ? what is your opinion ? Cheers Mariano

March 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] MIT strikes back (was Re: [smalltalk-research] Re: [Esug-list] Google Summer Of Code 2010 news!!!)

by Bryce Kampjes

On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 19:30 +0100, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: > Bryce Kampjes a Ã©crit : > > On Thu, 2010-03-11 at 16:31 -0600, Chris Muller wrote: > >> Well, I certainly care.. Stef wasn't remarking about license rights, > >> he said didn't understand the smiley face. Frankly, I don't either. > >> After years of teasing from Bryce and now this? What a crushing > >> disappointment. > > > > I'm still here.... And still making progress though slowly. > > Can't you get support to progress more easily? > Should not be difficult regarding the importance of your work? Help's always welcome but it's likely easier to help after Exupery supports closures. Bryce

March 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] Panic

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks. <OT> In my university were I was graduated, used to teach with Dolphin few years ago, then squeak and this semester they will probably start to teach with Pharo. The good thing is that they have like 6 courses, with 50 students each course....so, it is good :) I hope several of them join the community. Carla, anything to say about PDP? ;) </OT> I was talking with them, and they missed (me too) a little utility that was in Dolphin and that I remember in VAST: the panic button. In dolphin is "panic", in VAST I don't remember exactly. But basically, what it does is to close ALL what it is open. All kind of windows, popups or anything. Right now, we have a "Delete unchanged windows" but: - it only takes into account windows. I want to close everything: transcripts, workspaces, popups, etc. Even more, OCompletion sometimes lets some popups alive and users (mostly beginners) don't know how to remove them. - I want to close ALL windows, I don't care if you were editing or not. - I dont like the name "Delete unchanged Windows". Can we renamed to "*Close * unchanged windows" ? So...I can add it to the "Windows" -> "Panic" I am not sure if Panic is the best name. Do you have better ideas? Basically, it does this: World submorphs reject: [:m | m == LogoImageMorph default ] thenDo: [:each | each delete] (remove all World submorphs but the Pharo logo) The first question is, do you like the idea? should I add it ? The second is, how can I delete a SystemWindows that has been being edited without saving ? because right now, the popup raises saying "Changes has not been saved....". I want to delete them without asking. I have no idea how to do this. Help ? maybe there is a preference or notifier that I can turn of before the execution and then put it back ? I searched in Morph to see if there is a deleteWithoutAsking or similar but I didn't find anything. Thanks Mariano

March 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] funny behavior with MC

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> I know now let me repeat the bug I see > > This is not a bug of Monticello. It is or may be of the network because tell me the difference between scenario 1 and scenario 2? I think that you do not read what I'm writing. There is no difference except that in the first scenario it barks and the second it works. And I just merge the latest working copy (which means that I did nothing) in between. scenario1 working copy polymorphWiget.7.mcz I click on polymorphWiget.24.mcz merge -> I get an error ancestor cannot be found scenario1 working copy polymorphWiget.7.mcz I click on polymorphWiget.7.mcz merge -> no changes (ok this is what I hope what arriving) Then I click on polymorphWiget.24.mcz merge -> I get no error.!!!! AND I CAN MERGE!!!! None. So may be the network was flaky and when I merged the second time the package was loaded in my cache. I try to understand what is the problem. > This is because you move versions > around and you don't tell Monticello where to find them. But our process does not move them around since packages in the inbox are systematically merged and the merged versions are copied into pharo. Then the commited versions are moved to treated. So we have a merge barrier! to keep the ancestry. So by process we should not get that. This is strange that only this one is a problem (may be they are some others) but really few compared to the large number of package versions we have. So this is probably a glitch somewhere Lukas: I ***KNOW*** how MC branching/merging works. I KNOW IT. Now I'm trying to understand how the moved package could be moved in treated while it should have been to pharo.

March 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] cannot update metacello in rc3

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Sorry, I am a bit sick and did not express myself correctly. I just wanted > to point out the fact that loadLatestVersion crashes, which is a bit > strange. And for that, I just described the simple scenario to reproduce it. > > Ufff sorry, now it was me that didn't express my self correctly (and I am not sick). I wanted to said that I downloaded ConfigurationOfMetacello- DaleHenrichs.266 and then I evaluated: "ConfigurationOfMetacello loadLatestVersion" and worked ok for me. Hope you get better. Mariano > I did not want to say that it is impossible to load the latest Metacello :) > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 24 Mar 2010, at 21:32, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > >> >> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I took the RC3 dev image and I tried "ConfigurationOfMetacello >> loadLatestVersion", but it fails. >> >> >> Hi Tudor. I have just tasted downloading >> ConfigurationOfMetacello-DaleHenrichs.266 >> and it worked ok for me, no problem. >> >> I did not have time to look into this, but this is problematic :). >> >> >> But Dale is not magician. You should at least said what was the problem or >> attach PharoDebug.log ;) >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Don't give to get. Just give." > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] cannot update metacello in rc3

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Sorry, I am a bit sick and did not express myself correctly. I just wanted to point out the fact that loadLatestVersion crashes, which is a bit strange. And for that, I just described the simple scenario to reproduce it. I did not want to say that it is impossible to load the latest Metacello :) Cheers, Doru On 24 Mar 2010, at 21:32, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > Hi, > > I took the RC3 dev image and I tried "ConfigurationOfMetacello > loadLatestVersion", but it fails. > > > Hi Tudor. I have just tasted downloading ConfigurationOfMetacello- > DaleHenrichs.266 > and it worked ok for me, no problem. > > I did not have time to look into this, but this is problematic :). > > > But Dale is not magician. You should at least said what was the > problem or attach PharoDebug.log ;) > > Cheers > > Mariano > > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Don't give to get. Just give."

March 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] cannot update metacello in rc3

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I took the RC3 dev image and I tried "ConfigurationOfMetacello > loadLatestVersion", but it fails. > > Hi Tudor. I have just tasted downloading ConfigurationOfMetacello-DaleHenrichs.266 and it worked ok for me, no problem. > I did not have time to look into this, but this is problematic :). > > But Dale is not magician. You should at least said what was the problem or attach PharoDebug.log ;) Cheers Mariano > Cheers, > Doru > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] cannot update metacello in rc3

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I took the RC3 dev image and I tried "ConfigurationOfMetacello loadLatestVersion", but it fails. I did not have time to look into this, but this is problematic :). Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not how it is, it is how we see it."

March 24, 2010

[Pharo-project] Issue 2205

by laurent laffont

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2205 In PharoInbox: Morphic-LaurentLaffont.558 As all SimpleHierarchicalListMorph & PluggableTreeMorph users put autoDeselect to false (or bug if not), it's now the default. Laurent Laffont

March 24, 2010