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Re: [Pharo-project] [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo-1.0-10515-rc3dev10.03.1

by Geert Claes

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Sorry. Want I wanted to ask is...for next Pharo releases, I do the same > but > making clear O2 is not by default ? or I just don't say anything about O2 > in the release ? > While choice is a good thing it does make things more complicated and the PBE book will need to just choose one I guess. It should be easier to swap betweem OB or O2 though, maybe not necessarily both in the same image at the same time but easy to load/unload. Have they really moved that far apart that the initial idea of OB-Enhancements is not possible? -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/BetaTesting-ANN-Pharo-1-0-10515-rc3dev10-03-1-tp167612… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Update cache?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

no this is strange On Mar 25, 2010, at 3:35 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Hi all > Updating a Pharo image to the latest version doesn't use the > downloaded update files as a cache for future updates. Is this done on > purpose? > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Panic

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

If they need something like that they can add it in a specific package and load it in their image it should not be difficult. Stef On Mar 24, 2010, at 10:23 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi folks. > > <OT> In my university were I was graduated, used to teach with Dolphin few years ago, then squeak and this semester they will probably start to teach with Pharo. The good thing is that they have like 6 courses, with 50 students each course....so, it is good :) I hope several of them join the community. > Carla, anything to say about PDP? ;) > </OT> > > I was talking with them, and they missed (me too) a little utility that was in Dolphin and that I remember in VAST: the panic button. In dolphin is "panic", in VAST I don't remember exactly. > But basically, what it does is to close ALL what it is open. All kind of windows, popups or anything. Right now, we have a "Delete unchanged windows" but: > > - it only takes into account windows. I want to close everything: transcripts, workspaces, popups, etc. Even more, OCompletion sometimes lets some popups alive and users (mostly beginners) don't know how to remove them. > - I want to close ALL windows, I don't care if you were editing or not. > - I dont like the name "Delete unchanged Windows". Can we renamed to "Close unchanged windows" ? > > So...I can add it to the "Windows" -> "Panic" > I am not sure if Panic is the best name. Do you have better ideas? > > Basically, it does this: > > > World submorphs reject: [:m | m == LogoImageMorph default ] thenDo: [:each | each delete] > > (remove all World submorphs but the Pharo logo) > > The first question is, do you like the idea? should I add it ? > > The second is, how can I delete a SystemWindows that has been being edited without saving ? because right now, the popup raises saying "Changes has not been saved....". > I want to delete them without asking. I have no idea how to do this. Help ? > maybe there is a preference or notifier that I can turn of before the execution and then put it back ? I searched in Morph to see if there is a deleteWithoutAsking or similar but I didn't find anything. > > Thanks > > Mariano > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] funny behavior with MC

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 24, 2010, at 10:50 PM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> So this is probably a glitch somewhere > > I doubt so. > >> Lukas: I ***KNOW*** how MC branching/merging works. I KNOW IT. Now I'm trying to understand how the moved package >> could be moved in treated while it should have been to pharo. > > I imagine that when you browsed the different repositories you touched > the version and Monticello copied it to its cache. So it isn't enough > to know how merging exactly works, but you need to know all the exact > semantics of each mouse movement in the MC UI :-) no this has nothing to do with me idiot you moved the package in the wrong repository I trying to understand why one scenario 1 it barks and on scenario 2 it works because this represents a lot of time wasted... And also what is the step in our process that created the hole in the ancestry. Stef

March 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Searching for references

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 24, 2010, at 10:35 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi folks. Today I were talking with Noury and from our point of view, there is a bug in the Class references. > > Forget about refactoring browser. Right now, if you look for the references of a class, it ONLY searches literal matches in the source code of methods. It doesn't take into account for example if you have subclasses. In the abstract speaking, if there are subclasses, isn't that considered a reference ? Yes I agree got bitten by this one. > Even more, the tool would be much more useful if it can find such information. Several times, I look for references of a class I don't know and that I think it can be removed. I look references, zero. Excellent, I can removed. But then....I realized it has a subclass and that class is referenced in 200000 places...fresh example: > DummySuperclassOfColorPickerMorph. > > In summary, it would be great if subclasses can be tacking into account also. Or at least I don't know, create another menu entry for that... > > I am the only one who think that ? what is your opinion ? > > Cheers > > Mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 25, 2010

[Pharo-project] Auto-rename image and changes file after updating

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi, I've noticed every time I update a Pharo image I should rename manually the image and changes file names to match the new updated version number. I.e.: If you have PharoCore-1.1-11291-UNSTABLE.changes PharoCore-1.1-11291-UNSTABLE.image then update to #11295 and save and quit, you should modify the file names manually to PharoCore-1.1-11295-UNSTABLE.changes PharoCore-1.1-11295-UNSTABLE.image The attached files does the following: -After a Pharo software update, evaluate the FileOutNewNamesAfterUpdate.st script -Quit the image -For Win users: Run the batch updateFileNames.bat to rename the image and changes files to the latest version. (this is not the same as Save as...) Feel free to modify and use it as you want :) Cheers, HernÃ¡n

March 25, 2010

[Pharo-project] Update cache?

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi all Updating a Pharo image to the latest version doesn't use the downloaded update files as a cache for future updates. Is this done on purpose? Cheers, HernÃ¡n

March 25, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] cannot update metacello in rc3

by Dale Henrichs

Doru, I was just a little bit worried when RC3 was shipped with a #development blessing for 1.0-beta.25, now I have a concrete reason to be worried. Since 1.0-beta.25 is in #development, the latestVersion of Metacello is 1.0-beta.24.1 and thats the version that gets loaded by #loadLatestVersion... With that said you _have_ exposed a bug in the #loadLatestVersion method: | project | project := self project. project updateProject. project latestversion load When self project is evaluated the latestVersion is 1.0-beta.24.1. After #updateProject is performed, the latestVersion in ConfigurationOfMetacello is 1.0-beta.25.1, but since we don't refresh the project, we load 1.0-beta.24.1. If you do "ConfigurationOfMetacello loadLatestVersion", close the walkback(s) and try "ConfigurationOfMetacello loadLatestVersion" again, you'll be updated correctly. I've checked in a fix for #loadLatestVersion, so if you update the configuration first, then do #loadLatestVersion ... that will work also. Nice catch and I hope that you get better, Dale ----- "Tudor Girba" <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> wrote: | Hi, | | I took the RC3 dev image and I tried "ConfigurationOfMetacello | loadLatestVersion", but it fails. | | I did not have time to look into this, but this is problematic :). | | Cheers, | Doru | | | -- | www.tudorgirba.com | | "It's not how it is, it is how we see it." | | | _______________________________________________ | Pharo-project mailing list | Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Panic

by Igor Stasenko

2010/3/24 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Hi folks. > > <OT> In my university were I was graduated, used to teach with Dolphin few > years ago, then squeak and this semester they will probably start to teach > with Pharo. The good thing is that they have like 6 courses, with 50 > students each course....so, it is good :) Â I hope several of them join the > community. > Carla, anything to say about PDP?Â ;) > </OT> > > I was talking with them, and they missed (me too) a little utility that was > in Dolphin and that I remember in VAST: the panic button. In dolphin is > "panic", in VAST I don't remember exactly. > But basically, what it does is to close ALL what it is open. All kind of > windows, popups or anything. Right now, we have a "Delete unchanged windows" > but: > > - it only takes into account windows. I want to close everything: > transcripts, workspaces, popups, etc. Even more, OCompletion sometimes lets > some popups alive and users (mostly beginners) don't know how to remove > them. > - I want to close ALL windows, I don't care if you were editing or not. > - I dont like the name "Delete unchanged Windows". Can we renamed to "Close > unchanged windows" ? > > So...I can add it to the "Windows" -> "Panic" > I am not sure if Panic is the best name. Do you have better ideas? > > Basically, it does this: > > > World submorphs reject:Â [:m | m == LogoImageMorph default ]Â thenDo: [:each > | each delete] > > (remove all World submorphs but the Pharo logo) > > The first question is, do you like the idea?Â should I add it ? > I thinking of even more radical process - replace the World instance alltogether, and then recreate all default things from scratch (logo, tabs etc). So, then old World instance and all its submorphs will be GCed.. and you don't have to delete anything. The panic, as i understand, is not where you interested whether you having something unsaved or not - it should reset UI unconditionally, and in this way, leaving minimal chances that you will still be plagued by some inconsistency after reset. > The second is, how can I delete a SystemWindows that has been being edited > without saving ?Â because right now, the popup raises saying "Changes has > not been saved....". > I want to delete them without asking. I have no idea how to do this. Help ? > maybe there is a preference or notifier that I can turn of before the > execution and then put it back ?Â Â I searched in Morph to see if there is a > deleteWithoutAsking or similar but I didn't find anything. > > Thanks > > Mariano > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

March 24, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Searching for references

by Lukas Renggli

> Forget about refactoring browser. Right now, if you look for the references > of a class, it ONLY searches literal matches in the source code of methods. > It doesn't take into account for example if you have subclasses. In the > abstract speaking, if there are subclasses, isn't that considered a > reference ? If you use the refactoring browser to remove it will warn you about that situation. Maybe the normal remove should warn about subclasses too, like the rm in unix does. > In summary, it would be great if subclasses can be tacking into account > also. Or at least I don't know, create another menu entry for that... There is already a menu item, it is called 'show hierarchy'. I guess the tools don't display these kind of references because then you suddenly have two different kinds of objects as a result: methods and classes. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

March 24, 2010