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[Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10515-rc3dev10.03.1 - Win32 Installer

by Torsten Bergmann

Looks like I missed to rebuild the setup at the beginning of march for RC3. However, here it is [1] bundled with the new 4.0.1 VM [2]. It is also up on the download page [3]. Any plan/timeframe for an RC4? Bye T. [1] http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26766/setup_pharo1.0-10515-rc3dev10… [2] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2010-March/024393.html [3] http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

March 31, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Win32 VM 4.0.1 for Pharo

by Torsten Bergmann

The new windows VM 4.0.1 from Squeak [1] is rebranded for Pharo and available on the download page [2]. You can access it directly via [3] or compile it yourself using the adapted sources [4]. As soon as an RC4 of the dev-image is available I will also create a new installer with it. Bye T. [1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2010-March/004142.html [2] http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download [3] https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26763/PharoVM-Win32-4.0.1.zip [4] https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26764/PharoVM-Win32-4.0.1-src.zip -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser

March 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Are there Chi-Square, Power, Normal, Binomial, Uniform, Student's-T etc distributions ?

by Serge Stinckwich

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:34 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > >> Hum, i didn't subscribe to pharo-users ... > > what! > :) Already too much ml to follow ;-) -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

March 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] The Pharo Linux Vm [WAS] Squeak VM+FT2Plugin, all Pharo 1.0 rc3 tests green

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

+1 Stef On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:25 AM, John M McIntosh wrote: > >> Well 5.0 is still in Alpha. >> Feedback is slow, so the issue is how to drive acceptance? >> > > I suggest to release 1.0 with the altest 4er Mac VM, than advacate 5.0 for 1.1. > > Marcus > >> The problem with the 64bit VM with 32bit images is that all the plugins have to be recompiled. Mind I did do the FreeType one. >> However I was thinking that we could run the 5.0 VM in 32bit mode and use the existing plugins to minimize impact. >> >> On 2010-03-30, at 11:46 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> John >>> >>> it is really important that 1.0 is working very well so we can start pushing 5.0 for 1.1. >>> Now >>> who is using 5.0 ? >>> what are the problem left? I got some glitches like not been able to open two images but this was >>> at the beginning. Now I thought that 5.0 was not officially out. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> On Mar 29, 2010, at 9:47 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: >>> >>>> Frankly in all of this perhaps we should consider the use of the Version 5. 0 macintosh cocoa VM running in 32bit mode? >>> >> >> -- >> =========================================================================== >> John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 >> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com >> =========================================================================== >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Are there Chi-Square, Power, Normal, Binomial, Uniform, Student's-T etc distributions ?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > Hum, i didn't subscribe to pharo-users ... what! :) > Lucas, could you send my reply to the mailing-list ? > Thank you ;-) > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>>> Is there a standard library access and make calculations from the >>>> distributions mentioned in the subject of this email? I'm interested >>>> in random draws from those distributions. I haven't found anything >>>> looking in the image or on squeaksource. Thanks >>> >>> Have a look in the "Chapter 21: Probability Distributions" of >>> "Smalltalk-80: The Language and its Implementation By Adele Goldberg >>> and DavidRobson; Xerox Palo Alto Research Center ISBN 0-201-11371-6. >>> 344 pp. 1983" (http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html) >>> >>> I am sure that you can find a file-out of the code described in the >>> book with Google. I remember having it packaged up with Monticello >>> some time ago, but can't find it right now. >>> >>> Lukas >>> >>> PS: Please configure your reply-to address to go to the mailing list. >>> >> >> >> The mail was sent to pharo-users and it might be that this list does not >> set reply-to... I will fix it. >> >> Marcus >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de >> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Pharo-users] Are there Chi-Square, Power, Normal, Binomial, Uniform, Student's-T etc distributions ?

by Marcus Denker

On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:13 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > The mail was sent to pharo-users and it might be that this list does not > set reply-to... I will fix it. > fixed. -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

March 31, 2010

[Pharo-project] New 1.1 core released: 11301

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/26762/PharoCore-1.1-11301-UNSTABLE… Stef

March 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeak VM+FT2Plugin, all Pharo 1.0 rc3 tests green

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes what you are doing is important!!!! Stef On Mar 31, 2010, at 9:44 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > Good Linux packaging systems as in Debian/Ubuntu/Gentoo/Arch propose to install pre-built binary for your architecture (faster) or build in from source on your machine (slower, but optimized). Nevertheless, both solutions uses the GCC supplied with your distro. > > If you want to compile with ICC, up to you to do it from scratch. > > On Linux the preferred way is to use packages. So IMHO the best solution is to have: > - a source archive on Pharo website > - prebuilt .deb / .rpm / ... for major distros, included in official repositories > > So people who wants to install pharo on Linux just have to uses their package manager. Ex on Debian > apt-get install pharo > > or use the GUI front-end provided by their distro. > > The first step is to be able to build the VM in a repeatable way with GCC on Linux (this is why I currently work on building the VM. It seems that there's still things I don't understand, especially on performance side). > > Then write (or re-use existing) scripts to build packages for each major distro. > > Laurent Laffont > > > 2010/3/31 John M McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> > So how do the Linux binary only distros work then? I'm sure I've seen the choice, oh load the binaries, or pull and compile the source as > choices in Ubuntu? Why bother making one-click apps with Linux VM if everyone ignores them? Or is this an 80/20 rule? > > On 2010-03-31, at 12:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > > > A version compiled with the Intel C compiler could be available on the > > Pharo website, but linux distro will never use it. They will prefer to > > recompile from scratch with gcc. What kind of boost performance is > > expected with the Intel compiler ? > > > > -- > > Serge Stinckwich > > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeak VM+FT2Plugin, all Pharo 1.0 rc3 tests green

by laurent laffont

Good Linux packaging systems as in Debian/Ubuntu/Gentoo/Arch propose to install pre-built binary for your architecture (faster) or build in from source on your machine (slower, but optimized). Nevertheless, both solutions uses the GCC supplied with your distro. If you want to compile with ICC, up to you to do it from scratch. On Linux the preferred way is to use packages. So IMHO the best solution is to have: - a source archive on Pharo website - prebuilt .deb / .rpm / ... for major distros, included in official repositories So people who wants to install pharo on Linux just have to uses their package manager. Ex on Debian apt-get install pharo or use the GUI front-end provided by their distro. The first step is to be able to build the VM in a repeatable way with GCC on Linux (this is why I currently work on building the VM. It seems that there's still things I don't understand, especially on performance side). Then write (or re-use existing) scripts to build packages for each major distro. Laurent Laffont 2010/3/31 John M McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> > So how do the Linux binary only distros work then? I'm sure I've seen the > choice, oh load the binaries, or pull and compile the source as > choices in Ubuntu? Why bother making one-click apps with Linux VM if > everyone ignores them? Or is this an 80/20 rule? > > On 2010-03-31, at 12:05 AM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > > > A version compiled with the Intel C compiler could be available on the > > Pharo website, but linux distro will never use it. They will prefer to > > recompile from scratch with gcc. What kind of boost performance is > > expected with the Intel compiler ? > > > > -- > > Serge Stinckwich > > UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam > > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: > squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 31, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Squeak VM+FT2Plugin, all Pharo 1.0 rc3 tests green

by Serge Stinckwich

2010/3/31 John M McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com>: > So how do the Linux binary only distros work then? I'm sure I've seen the choice, oh load the binaries, or pull and compile the source as > choices in Ubuntu? Why bother making one-click apps with Linux VM if everyone ignores them? Or is this an 80/20 rule? I guess, most of the users didn't recompile their applications, they just use the binary packages from their favorite distributions. One-click apps are nice in order to distribute Pharo before linux distro add it in their distributions. Usually it takes some time and i guess they will include the 1.0 version when Pharo 1.1 will be out ;-) -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

March 31, 2010