March 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Next sprint? London? England? Brussels

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Excellent! Stef On Mar 14, 2010, at 8:19 PM, Gary Chambers wrote: > We at Pinesoft are based in London, Holborn just outside Chancery Lane > tube station. > > I'll ask the guys but expect that we'd be more than happy to host a > sprint... > > Regards, Gary > > On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 19:02 +0100, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> Hi guys >> >> I want to thank the participants of the sprint of yesterday. Philippe it was fun to pair program >> and crash the system with you.... much more fun that alone. >> So here is a proposition for another sprint at Berne the saturday 5 th of June. >> >> Now I would love to come and code with you guys on the other side of the channel >> but I have no clue about england geography and where you are located. >> Mike, gary do you have an idea? >> >> We could also organize a sprint at Brussels >> Lille is so central that this is cool. >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Next sprint? London? England? Brussels

by Gary Chambers

We at Pinesoft are based in London, Holborn just outside Chancery Lane tube station. I'll ask the guys but expect that we'd be more than happy to host a sprint... Regards, Gary On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 19:02 +0100, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > I want to thank the participants of the sprint of yesterday. Philippe it was fun to pair program > and crash the system with you.... much more fun that alone. > So here is a proposition for another sprint at Berne the saturday 5 th of June. > > Now I would love to come and code with you guys on the other side of the channel > but I have no clue about england geography and where you are located. > Mike, gary do you have an idea? > > We could also organize a sprint at Brussels > Lille is so central that this is cool. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update] #10514 Network fix

by Ramiro Diaz Trepat

I think that is correct. The problem of finding the IP address of the public interface is just another problem. May be I'm wrong, but I believe localhost has a precise definition already, it's not an invitation for us to ponder about the probable interpretations of the separate words local + host. Again, as it says in Wikipedia: "Localhost always translates to the loopback IP address 127.0.0.1 in IPv4, or ::1 in IPv6" Cheers and thanks for your work. r On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 6:29 PM, John M McIntosh < johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote: > Ok, well obviously I need someone to define the problem if the fix was just > to return 127.0.0.1 as the result of localhostAddress. > But I *think* someone wants to know what the public interface address is, > so they can choose to bind to a particular IF, or publish it somehow. > > But maybe I'm wrong.. > > > On 2010-03-14, at 3:38 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > > Yes, pre-SocketAddress. We have left the class SocketAddress in the image > but without the additional behavior. > > > > Adrian > > > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: > squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Set with nil is fixed and waiting for a nice reviewer

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Niko Oscar? Stef On Mar 14, 2010, at 7:16 PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> during the sprint niko schwarz and oscar nierstrasz fixed the Set in nil entry. >> Thanks. >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1907 > > Why did you choose Igor's negative tally hack instead of the SetElement version? > > > Levente > >> >> Now does somebody with knowledge could have a look because this is a sensitive >> part of the system and more eyes does not hurt. >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting HashedCollection (another dream happening)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Yes I waiting. But thanks for the step list because this is half of the work (I hope ;)) Stef On Mar 14, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Levente Uzonyi wrote: > On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, stephane ducasse wrote: > >> Hi levente and others >> >> I always wanted to have Dictionary not be a subclass of Set and you did it. >> Now when you introduced that in Squeak, we were busy. >> But now I'm so found of this change (like other Smalltalk -> SmalltalkImage current --- which we stopped in the >> middle because lack of momentum and mindsharing) that I would like to integrate it into Pharo. >> Do you have any specific recommandations (like not shooting in our own foot)? > > IIRC this is what I did: > - created a copy of Set named HashedCollection > - changed it's category to Collections-Abstract > - changed Set's superclass to HashedCollection while removed it's instance variables > - removed Set specific methods from HashedCollection > - copied Dictionary specific methods from Set to Dictionary > - changed Dictionary's superclass to HashedCollection > - removed Dictionary specific methods from Set > - cleaup (code that assumes that Dictionary is a Set may be everywhere in the image, for example: Set rehashAllSets won't rehash Dictionaries now, etc) > > But if you change these classes now, you'll have to update AndrÃ©s' changes. That's why I told you earlier to add those changes before touching anything else in the Set hierarchy. The weak dictionary related parts have to be updated already. > > > Levente > >> >> Stef >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

March 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update] #10514 Network fix

by John M McIntosh

Ok, well obviously I need someone to define the problem if the fix was just to return 127.0.0.1 as the result of localhostAddress. But I *think* someone wants to know what the public interface address is, so they can choose to bind to a particular IF, or publish it somehow. But maybe I'm wrong.. On 2010-03-14, at 3:38 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > Yes, pre-SocketAddress. We have left the class SocketAddress in the image but without the additional behavior. > > Adrian > -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

March 14, 2010

[Pharo-project] Pharocasts: How to contribute to Pharo

by laurent laffont

Here's the screencast http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-contribute-to-pharo.html Cheers, Laurent Laffont

March 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Set with nil is fixed and waiting for a nice reviewer

by Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > during the sprint niko schwarz and oscar nierstrasz fixed the Set in nil entry. > Thanks. > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1907 Why did you choose Igor's negative tally hack instead of the SetElement version? Levente > > Now does somebody with knowledge could have a look because this is a sensitive > part of the system and more eyes does not hurt. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 14, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] About getting HashedCollection (another dream happening)

by Levente Uzonyi

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, stephane ducasse wrote: > Hi levente and others > > I always wanted to have Dictionary not be a subclass of Set and you did it. > Now when you introduced that in Squeak, we were busy. > But now I'm so found of this change (like other Smalltalk -> SmalltalkImage current --- which we stopped in the > middle because lack of momentum and mindsharing) that I would like to integrate it into Pharo. > Do you have any specific recommandations (like not shooting in our own foot)? IIRC this is what I did: - created a copy of Set named HashedCollection - changed it's category to Collections-Abstract - changed Set's superclass to HashedCollection while removed it's instance variables - removed Set specific methods from HashedCollection - copied Dictionary specific methods from Set to Dictionary - changed Dictionary's superclass to HashedCollection - removed Dictionary specific methods from Set - cleaup (code that assumes that Dictionary is a Set may be everywhere in the image, for example: Set rehashAllSets won't rehash Dictionaries now, etc) But if you change these classes now, you'll have to update AndrÃ©s' changes. That's why I told you earlier to add those changes before touching anything else in the Set hierarchy. The weak dictionary related parts have to be updated already. Levente > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

March 14, 2010

[Pharo-project] Next sprint? London? England? Brussels

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I want to thank the participants of the sprint of yesterday. Philippe it was fun to pair program and crash the system with you.... much more fun that alone. So here is a proposition for another sprint at Berne the saturday 5 th of June. Now I would love to come and code with you guys on the other side of the channel but I have no clue about england geography and where you are located. Mike, gary do you have an idea? We could also organize a sprint at Brussels Lille is so central that this is cool. Stef

March 14, 2010