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[Pharo-project] New Smalltalk-Research group

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks. We were discussing about this in the Pharo mailing list but the idea is for all Smalltalkers. I am not sure if this will work, but it is worth to try it as I don't have anything to loose. We were thinking to have a place, an environment and hopefully a community, where we can freely discuss about Smalltalk papers or OO in general. All smalltalkers of all flavors can join, discuss, tell their experiences and thoughts, share and learn. The main purpose about that list is: - be able to FREELY discuss about papers about Smalltalk or OO in general. I say freely because maybe someone gives an opinion of a paper that the person who wrote it is also in this place. We are all professional and I think we can discuss with respect. - LEARN. Other uses: - Don't reinvent the wheel. Maybe I wanted to do something and I read that XXX person did YYY. So, I can look at it. - Be aware of what other people is doing, working, writing and learning. - Have different opinions of a certain topic / paper. - A little step to join all the Smalltalk community in one place. We can meet people, join forces, etc. - Help in the preparation, ANN, collaborate, etc in Workshops, conferences, and so on. - Ask for help on review. Several times someone has several papers to review for a certain conference. This can be a place to ask for that help. - Publish papers that were rejected from someone. How many times some papers where rejected but do you still read it and find it useful ? - Educate people and being educated. - Share latex template, commands, or tricks related to smalltalk code for example. - Discuss about research in general. - Ask for a certain topic. Suppose I want to start to work in XXX topic, I can ask to see if someone knows related papers or work. - others In two words: DISCUSS AND LEARN. FAQ: 1) Which is the address? http://groups.google.com/group/smalltalk-research 2) Do I need to be "Researcher" to join ? Not necessary. You may just be interested. 3) Is there a Nabble interface? Yes: http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-Research-f1473466.html Now, please what I would appreciate is if you can help me to you distribute (I am not in Gemstone, Cincom or GNU for example) this ANN. It would be cool to create a community. I know there are a lot of Smalltalk researchers that doesn't have time to follow the active smalltalks lists. If you can send private mails to them would be fantastic! Thank you very much. Mariano

Feb. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Lorenzo ca you test that and let us know if it works ? In summary, take a clean Seaside 3.0 image (without the change I told you to do), unzip and you will see a Seaside.ini. Edit it and change 3ButtonMouse=1 to 3ButtonMouse=0 If you now open the image, it should work ok. Thanks Mariano On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > >> If we know what the standard setting of this ini file is we can adapt the >> Smalltalk code accordingly. Or, is this file generated by an installer and >> hence changes depending on the actual hardware? >> >> > I have NO IDEA Adrian. What I can tell you is that the Squeak.ini comes in > the zip of the standard windows VM. In that Squeak.ini the property is like > this: > > 3ButtonMouse=0 > 1ButtonMouse=0 > > That's why I never experienced the problem with other Pharo images. > > Seaside one click, the exe they use, uses the Seaside.ini (not the default > Squeak.ini). In Seaside.ini the properies are > > 3ButtonMouse=1 > 1ButtonMouse=0 > > And that's why it doesn't work with that image. > > Lukas: maybe a quick solution for your one click image is to change the > Seaside.ini 3ButtonMouse=1 to 3ButtonMouse=0 > > > Adrian >> >> On Feb 8, 2010, at 16:42 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> > 2010/2/8 Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com> >> > >> >> Have you tried the "3 button mouse" windows VM option to see if it >> >> changes the behaviour? >> >> >> >> >> > Good point Gary!!! I was looking some minutes ago in Seaside.ini and I >> saw >> > that option....but my mouse has 3 buttons, and the option was "ok": >> > >> > 3ButtonMouse=1 >> > 1ButtonMouse=0 >> > >> > With that, right button was not working and I have to return true in >> order >> > to make it work. >> > >> > Now, as Gary suggested I change the ini to this: >> > >> > 3ButtonMouse=0 >> > 1ButtonMouse=0 >> > >> > and now, with the original code of swapMouseButtons it is working >> correct. >> > >> > Of course, here there is a problem, because my mouse HAS 3 buttons, but >> in >> > order to make it work properly, I have to put a 0... >> > >> > So....it is a mess. >> > >> > Any idea how to fix it ? >> > >> > Thanks! >> > >> > Mariano >> > >> > >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> >> *To:* Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> *Sent:* Monday, February 08, 2010 3:01 PM >> >> *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Yes, but this was fixed, wasn't it? >> >>> >> >>> The problem of the wrong order of InputEventSensor in the startup list >> was >> >>> resolved in August. At least the following evaluates to true in >> current >> >>> PharoCore 1.0: >> >>> >> >>> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #OSPlatform) >> < >> >>> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: >> #InputEventSensor). >> >>> >> >>> >> >> yes, this returns true. So. It doesn't seem to be the same problem. >> >> >> >> >> >>> So, yes, there was a known problem but I assumed it was fixed. >> Probably, >> >>> what we are seeing now is related. According to Bill, the setting is >> wrong >> >>> on Windows when the image that was first saved on Linux is started >> without >> >>> being saved first (if I understand correctly). There can be two >> reasons: at >> >>> startup either the initialization of the mouse mapping is not >> triggered >> >>> (which I doubt) or it is triggered but the platform is still the old >> one. >> >>> Can somebody that has the problem check what is going on? >> >>> >> >>> >> >> I have tested, and even saving the image, the problem is not fixed. The >> >> only way to really fix it (at least what I worked for me is what I said >> to >> >> the guy in Seaside...I paste here: >> >> >> >> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: >> >> >> >> swapMouseButtons >> >> ^ self >> >> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >> >> ifAbsent: [ >> >> true ] >> >> >> >> >> >> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. >> >> >> >> >> >> with this, swapMouseButtons returns true. >> >> >> >> So....maybe, what it is wrong is the OSPlatform current platformFamily >> ~= >> >> #Windows >> >> >> >> I don't know :( >> >> >> >> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Adrian >> >>> >> >>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 14:12 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> >> >>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> (moving this discussion to Pharo-dev) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> No, there is no fix (and as far as I know the problem has not been >> >>> known >> >>>>> before). >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Adrian, I think that it was known. >> >>>> >> >>>> See issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=838 >> >>>> >> >>>> And threads: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> http://n4.nabble.com/right-button-still-doesn-t-work-on-Windows-td1303494.h… >> >>>> http://n4.nabble.com/swapMouseButtons-doesn-t-work-td1306309.html >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> The current implementation tries to do "the right thing" based on >> the >> >>>>> current platform: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> swapMouseButtons >> >>>>> ^ self >> >>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >> >>>>> ifAbsent: [ >> >>>>> OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows >> ] >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Is this behavior not correct for Windows users in general? Or is >> there >> >>> a >> >>>>> user-specific issue? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> I did the experiment to the guy in seaside mailing list and seems to >> >>> work ok >> >>>> in Windows if that return true instead of false....So, I don't >> >>> understand. >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers >> >>>> >> >>>> Mariano >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>>> Adrian >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:06 , Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Mariano is that a bug that has been fixed in recent versions of >> Pharo >> >>>>>> 1.0? Should I update the one-click image? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Lukas >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 8 February 2010 11:56, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >> wrote: >> >>>>>>> Yes, after the correction is working >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ciao >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >> >>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:03 AM >> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina < >> lorenzo(a)edor.it> >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Many thanks Mariano. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Clicking the wheel of the mouse is OK. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Ok, but it shouldn't be like that. It must be fixed. Can you tell >> me >> >>>>> please >> >>>>>>> if after doing what I told you, right button works actually in the >> >>> real >> >>>>>>> right button ? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Grazie >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Ciao >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >> >>>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:54 AM >> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina < >> lorenzo(a)edor.it >> >>>> >> >>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Mariano, >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> but unfortunately I cannot save the change; is there any >> different >> >>> way >> >>>>> to >> >>>>>>>>> save the changes without clicking the right button? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Everything you do with the mouse / UI can be done by code in a >> >>>>> workspace. >> >>>>>>>> Both send the same message :) >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> But anyway, you "right" button must be working. Not in the >> physical >> >>>>> real >> >>>>>>>> right button, but, in the "wheel" button. If you have a real 3 >> keys >> >>>>> mouse, >> >>>>>>>> click the middle (the one of the wheel) button and it will act as >> >>>>> "right" >> >>>>>>>> button. If you are using a touchpad in a laptop, press left and >> >>> right >> >>>>>>>> together. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> To save an image and quite with "code" you can evaluate in a >> >>> workspace: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> SmalltalkImage current snapshot: true andQuit: true. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Then you can select that text, and just ctrl + d (to do it). No >> >>> need >> >>>>> of >> >>>>>>>> the mouse. >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Mariano >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Lorenzo >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >> >>>>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:19 AM >> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >> >>>>>>>>> Just to do a test, what happen if you do the following: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> swapMouseButtons >> >>>>>>>>> ^ self >> >>>>>>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >> >>>>>>>>> ifAbsent: [ >> >>>>>>>>> true ] >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Did that fix it ? >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> Mariano >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina < >> lorenzo(a)edor.it >> >>>> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, is Seaside 3.0 one-click image. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> For example, if I enter into a method and I make a modification >> >>> and I >> >>>>>>>>>> try to save it clicking with right button in the editing >> window, >> >>>>> nothing >> >>>>>>>>>> happens. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> I have no response in any window of the system. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Many thanks >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" < >> >>>>> renggli(a)gmail.com> >> >>>>>>>>>> To: "Seaside - general discussion" < >> >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> >> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:29 AM >> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I dowloaded Pharo 3.0 for Window Vista >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Pharo 1.0 is about to be released, so I guess you refer to the >> >>>>> Seaside >> >>>>>>>>>> 3.0 one-click image? >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>>> but I cannot use the right button of >> >>>>>>>>>>> my mouse; I enterede in key board preferences, but I was not >> able >> >>> to >> >>>>>>>>>>> set mouse properly. >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Can you elaborate what you are trying to do and what exactly >> does >> >>> not >> >>>>>>>>>> work? Maybe somebody else can help that has a windows >> installation >> >>> at >> >>>>>>>>>> hand? >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> Lukas >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli >> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>>>>> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>>>>> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> ________________________________ >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>>>> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>>>> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>>> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>>> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -- >> >>>>>> Lukas Renggli >> >>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >

Feb. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > If we know what the standard setting of this ini file is we can adapt the > Smalltalk code accordingly. Or, is this file generated by an installer and > hence changes depending on the actual hardware? > > I have NO IDEA Adrian. What I can tell you is that the Squeak.ini comes in the zip of the standard windows VM. In that Squeak.ini the property is like this: 3ButtonMouse=0 1ButtonMouse=0 That's why I never experienced the problem with other Pharo images. Seaside one click, the exe they use, uses the Seaside.ini (not the default Squeak.ini). In Seaside.ini the properies are 3ButtonMouse=1 1ButtonMouse=0 And that's why it doesn't work with that image. Lukas: maybe a quick solution for your one click image is to change the Seaside.ini 3ButtonMouse=1 to 3ButtonMouse=0 Adrian > > On Feb 8, 2010, at 16:42 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > 2010/2/8 Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com> > > > >> Have you tried the "3 button mouse" windows VM option to see if it > >> changes the behaviour? > >> > >> > > Good point Gary!!! I was looking some minutes ago in Seaside.ini and I > saw > > that option....but my mouse has 3 buttons, and the option was "ok": > > > > 3ButtonMouse=1 > > 1ButtonMouse=0 > > > > With that, right button was not working and I have to return true in > order > > to make it work. > > > > Now, as Gary suggested I change the ini to this: > > > > 3ButtonMouse=0 > > 1ButtonMouse=0 > > > > and now, with the original code of swapMouseButtons it is working > correct. > > > > Of course, here there is a problem, because my mouse HAS 3 buttons, but > in > > order to make it work properly, I have to put a 0... > > > > So....it is a mess. > > > > Any idea how to fix it ? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Mariano > > > > > >> Regards, Gary > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> *From:* Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > >> *To:* Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> *Sent:* Monday, February 08, 2010 3:01 PM > >> *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, but this was fixed, wasn't it? > >>> > >>> The problem of the wrong order of InputEventSensor in the startup list > was > >>> resolved in August. At least the following evaluates to true in current > >>> PharoCore 1.0: > >>> > >>> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #OSPlatform) < > >>> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: > #InputEventSensor). > >>> > >>> > >> yes, this returns true. So. It doesn't seem to be the same problem. > >> > >> > >>> So, yes, there was a known problem but I assumed it was fixed. > Probably, > >>> what we are seeing now is related. According to Bill, the setting is > wrong > >>> on Windows when the image that was first saved on Linux is started > without > >>> being saved first (if I understand correctly). There can be two > reasons: at > >>> startup either the initialization of the mouse mapping is not triggered > >>> (which I doubt) or it is triggered but the platform is still the old > one. > >>> Can somebody that has the problem check what is going on? > >>> > >>> > >> I have tested, and even saving the image, the problem is not fixed. The > >> only way to really fix it (at least what I worked for me is what I said > to > >> the guy in Seaside...I paste here: > >> > >> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: > >> > >> swapMouseButtons > >> ^ self > >> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons > >> ifAbsent: [ > >> true ] > >> > >> > >> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. > >> > >> > >> with this, swapMouseButtons returns true. > >> > >> So....maybe, what it is wrong is the OSPlatform current platformFamily > ~= > >> #Windows > >> > >> I don't know :( > >> > >> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Adrian > >>> > >>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 14:12 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> (moving this discussion to Pharo-dev) > >>>>> > >>>>> No, there is no fix (and as far as I know the problem has not been > >>> known > >>>>> before). > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Adrian, I think that it was known. > >>>> > >>>> See issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=838 > >>>> > >>>> And threads: > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > http://n4.nabble.com/right-button-still-doesn-t-work-on-Windows-td1303494.h… > >>>> http://n4.nabble.com/swapMouseButtons-doesn-t-work-td1306309.html > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> The current implementation tries to do "the right thing" based on the > >>>>> current platform: > >>>>> > >>>>> swapMouseButtons > >>>>> ^ self > >>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons > >>>>> ifAbsent: [ > >>>>> OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows ] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Is this behavior not correct for Windows users in general? Or is > there > >>> a > >>>>> user-specific issue? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I did the experiment to the guy in seaside mailing list and seems to > >>> work ok > >>>> in Windows if that return true instead of false....So, I don't > >>> understand. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers > >>>> > >>>> Mariano > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>>> Adrian > >>>>> > >>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:06 , Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Mariano is that a bug that has been fixed in recent versions of > Pharo > >>>>>> 1.0? Should I update the one-click image? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Lukas > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 8 February 2010 11:56, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> > wrote: > >>>>>>> Yes, after the correction is working > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ciao > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:03 AM > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina < > lorenzo(a)edor.it> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Many thanks Mariano. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Clicking the wheel of the mouse is OK. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ok, but it shouldn't be like that. It must be fixed. Can you tell > me > >>>>> please > >>>>>>> if after doing what I told you, right button works actually in the > >>> real > >>>>>>> right button ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Grazie > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Ciao > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:54 AM > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina < > lorenzo(a)edor.it > >>>> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks Mariano, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> but unfortunately I cannot save the change; is there any > different > >>> way > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> save the changes without clicking the right button? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Everything you do with the mouse / UI can be done by code in a > >>>>> workspace. > >>>>>>>> Both send the same message :) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> But anyway, you "right" button must be working. Not in the > physical > >>>>> real > >>>>>>>> right button, but, in the "wheel" button. If you have a real 3 > keys > >>>>> mouse, > >>>>>>>> click the middle (the one of the wheel) button and it will act as > >>>>> "right" > >>>>>>>> button. If you are using a touchpad in a laptop, press left and > >>> right > >>>>>>>> together. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> To save an image and quite with "code" you can evaluate in a > >>> workspace: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> SmalltalkImage current snapshot: true andQuit: true. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Then you can select that text, and just ctrl + d (to do it). No > >>> need > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>> the mouse. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mariano > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Lorenzo > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:19 AM > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>>>>>> Just to do a test, what happen if you do the following: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> swapMouseButtons > >>>>>>>>> ^ self > >>>>>>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons > >>>>>>>>> ifAbsent: [ > >>>>>>>>> true ] > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Did that fix it ? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Mariano > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina < > lorenzo(a)edor.it > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Yes, is Seaside 3.0 one-click image. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> For example, if I enter into a method and I make a modification > >>> and I > >>>>>>>>>> try to save it clicking with right button in the editing window, > >>>>> nothing > >>>>>>>>>> happens. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I have no response in any window of the system. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Many thanks > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" < > >>>>> renggli(a)gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>> To: "Seaside - general discussion" < > >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:29 AM > >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> I dowloaded Pharo 3.0 for Window Vista > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Pharo 1.0 is about to be released, so I guess you refer to the > >>>>> Seaside > >>>>>>>>>> 3.0 one-click image? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> but I cannot use the right button of > >>>>>>>>>>> my mouse; I enterede in key board preferences, but I was not > able > >>> to > >>>>>>>>>>> set mouse properly. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Can you elaborate what you are trying to do and what exactly > does > >>> not > >>>>>>>>>> work? Maybe somebody else can help that has a windows > installation > >>> at > >>>>>>>>>> hand? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Lukas > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>>>> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>>>> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>>> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>>> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Lukas Renggli > >>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >>> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button

by Adrian Lienhard

If we know what the standard setting of this ini file is we can adapt the Smalltalk code accordingly. Or, is this file generated by an installer and hence changes depending on the actual hardware? Adrian On Feb 8, 2010, at 16:42 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > 2010/2/8 Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com> > >> Have you tried the "3 button mouse" windows VM option to see if it >> changes the behaviour? >> >> > Good point Gary!!! I was looking some minutes ago in Seaside.ini and I saw > that option....but my mouse has 3 buttons, and the option was "ok": > > 3ButtonMouse=1 > 1ButtonMouse=0 > > With that, right button was not working and I have to return true in order > to make it work. > > Now, as Gary suggested I change the ini to this: > > 3ButtonMouse=0 > 1ButtonMouse=0 > > and now, with the original code of swapMouseButtons it is working correct. > > Of course, here there is a problem, because my mouse HAS 3 buttons, but in > order to make it work properly, I have to put a 0... > > So....it is a mess. > > Any idea how to fix it ? > > Thanks! > > Mariano > > >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> *To:* Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> *Sent:* Monday, February 08, 2010 3:01 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: >> >>> Yes, but this was fixed, wasn't it? >>> >>> The problem of the wrong order of InputEventSensor in the startup list was >>> resolved in August. At least the following evaluates to true in current >>> PharoCore 1.0: >>> >>> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #OSPlatform) < >>> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #InputEventSensor). >>> >>> >> yes, this returns true. So. It doesn't seem to be the same problem. >> >> >>> So, yes, there was a known problem but I assumed it was fixed. Probably, >>> what we are seeing now is related. According to Bill, the setting is wrong >>> on Windows when the image that was first saved on Linux is started without >>> being saved first (if I understand correctly). There can be two reasons: at >>> startup either the initialization of the mouse mapping is not triggered >>> (which I doubt) or it is triggered but the platform is still the old one. >>> Can somebody that has the problem check what is going on? >>> >>> >> I have tested, and even saving the image, the problem is not fixed. The >> only way to really fix it (at least what I worked for me is what I said to >> the guy in Seaside...I paste here: >> >> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: >> >> swapMouseButtons >> ^ self >> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >> ifAbsent: [ >> true ] >> >> >> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. >> >> >> with this, swapMouseButtons returns true. >> >> So....maybe, what it is wrong is the OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= >> #Windows >> >> I don't know :( >> >> >>> Cheers, >>> Adrian >>> >>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 14:12 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> (moving this discussion to Pharo-dev) >>>>> >>>>> No, there is no fix (and as far as I know the problem has not been >>> known >>>>> before). >>>>> >>>> >>>> Adrian, I think that it was known. >>>> >>>> See issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=838 >>>> >>>> And threads: >>>> >>>> >>> http://n4.nabble.com/right-button-still-doesn-t-work-on-Windows-td1303494.h… >>>> http://n4.nabble.com/swapMouseButtons-doesn-t-work-td1306309.html >>>> >>>> >>>>> The current implementation tries to do "the right thing" based on the >>>>> current platform: >>>>> >>>>> swapMouseButtons >>>>> ^ self >>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >>>>> ifAbsent: [ >>>>> OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows ] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is this behavior not correct for Windows users in general? Or is there >>> a >>>>> user-specific issue? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> I did the experiment to the guy in seaside mailing list and seems to >>> work ok >>>> in Windows if that return true instead of false....So, I don't >>> understand. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mariano >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>>> Adrian >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:06 , Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mariano is that a bug that has been fixed in recent versions of Pharo >>>>>> 1.0? Should I update the one-click image? >>>>>> >>>>>> Lukas >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 February 2010 11:56, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> wrote: >>>>>>> Yes, after the correction is working >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ciao >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:03 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many thanks Mariano. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clicking the wheel of the mouse is OK. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok, but it shouldn't be like that. It must be fixed. Can you tell me >>>>> please >>>>>>> if after doing what I told you, right button works actually in the >>> real >>>>>>> right button ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Grazie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ciao >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:54 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it >>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Mariano, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> but unfortunately I cannot save the change; is there any different >>> way >>>>> to >>>>>>>>> save the changes without clicking the right button? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Everything you do with the mouse / UI can be done by code in a >>>>> workspace. >>>>>>>> Both send the same message :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But anyway, you "right" button must be working. Not in the physical >>>>> real >>>>>>>> right button, but, in the "wheel" button. If you have a real 3 keys >>>>> mouse, >>>>>>>> click the middle (the one of the wheel) button and it will act as >>>>> "right" >>>>>>>> button. If you are using a touchpad in a laptop, press left and >>> right >>>>>>>> together. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To save an image and quite with "code" you can evaluate in a >>> workspace: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> SmalltalkImage current snapshot: true andQuit: true. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then you can select that text, and just ctrl + d (to do it). No >>> need >>>>> of >>>>>>>> the mouse. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mariano >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lorenzo >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:19 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>>>>>> Just to do a test, what happen if you do the following: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> swapMouseButtons >>>>>>>>> ^ self >>>>>>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >>>>>>>>> ifAbsent: [ >>>>>>>>> true ] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Did that fix it ? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mariano >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it >>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, is Seaside 3.0 one-click image. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For example, if I enter into a method and I make a modification >>> and I >>>>>>>>>> try to save it clicking with right button in the editing window, >>>>> nothing >>>>>>>>>> happens. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have no response in any window of the system. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" < >>>>> renggli(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> To: "Seaside - general discussion" < >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:29 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I dowloaded Pharo 3.0 for Window Vista >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pharo 1.0 is about to be released, so I guess you refer to the >>>>> Seaside >>>>>>>>>> 3.0 one-click image? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> but I cannot use the right button of >>>>>>>>>>> my mouse; I enterede in key board preferences, but I was not able >>> to >>>>>>>>>>> set mouse properly. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you elaborate what you are trying to do and what exactly does >>> not >>>>>>>>>> work? Maybe somebody else can help that has a windows installation >>> at >>>>>>>>>> hand? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Lukas >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli >>>>>>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>>>>> >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>>>>> >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Lukas Renggli >>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/2/8 Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com> > Have you tried the "3 button mouse" windows VM option to see if it > changes the behaviour? > > Good point Gary!!! I was looking some minutes ago in Seaside.ini and I saw that option....but my mouse has 3 buttons, and the option was "ok": 3ButtonMouse=1 1ButtonMouse=0 With that, right button was not working and I have to return true in order to make it work. Now, as Gary suggested I change the ini to this: 3ButtonMouse=0 1ButtonMouse=0 and now, with the original code of swapMouseButtons it is working correct. Of course, here there is a problem, because my mouse HAS 3 buttons, but in order to make it work properly, I have to put a 0... So....it is a mess. Any idea how to fix it ? Thanks! Mariano > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > *To:* Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > *Sent:* Monday, February 08, 2010 3:01 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button > > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > >> Yes, but this was fixed, wasn't it? >> >> The problem of the wrong order of InputEventSensor in the startup list was >> resolved in August. At least the following evaluates to true in current >> PharoCore 1.0: >> >> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #OSPlatform) < >> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #InputEventSensor). >> >> > yes, this returns true. So. It doesn't seem to be the same problem. > > >> So, yes, there was a known problem but I assumed it was fixed. Probably, >> what we are seeing now is related. According to Bill, the setting is wrong >> on Windows when the image that was first saved on Linux is started without >> being saved first (if I understand correctly). There can be two reasons: at >> startup either the initialization of the mouse mapping is not triggered >> (which I doubt) or it is triggered but the platform is still the old one. >> Can somebody that has the problem check what is going on? >> >> > I have tested, and even saving the image, the problem is not fixed. The > only way to really fix it (at least what I worked for me is what I said to > the guy in Seaside...I paste here: > > 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: > > swapMouseButtons > ^ self > valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons > ifAbsent: [ > true ] > > > 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. > > > with this, swapMouseButtons returns true. > > So....maybe, what it is wrong is the OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= > #Windows > > I don't know :( > > >> Cheers, >> Adrian >> >> On Feb 8, 2010, at 14:12 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> >> wrote: >> > >> >> (moving this discussion to Pharo-dev) >> >> >> >> No, there is no fix (and as far as I know the problem has not been >> known >> >> before). >> >> >> > >> > Adrian, I think that it was known. >> > >> > See issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=838 >> > >> > And threads: >> > >> > >> http://n4.nabble.com/right-button-still-doesn-t-work-on-Windows-td1303494.h… >> > http://n4.nabble.com/swapMouseButtons-doesn-t-work-td1306309.html >> > >> > >> >> The current implementation tries to do "the right thing" based on the >> >> current platform: >> >> >> >> swapMouseButtons >> >> ^ self >> >> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >> >> ifAbsent: [ >> >> OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows ] >> >> >> >> >> >> Is this behavior not correct for Windows users in general? Or is there >> a >> >> user-specific issue? >> >> >> >> >> > >> > I did the experiment to the guy in seaside mailing list and seems to >> work ok >> > in Windows if that return true instead of false....So, I don't >> understand. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > Mariano >> > >> > Cheers, >> >> Adrian >> >> >> >> On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:06 , Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >> >> >>> Mariano is that a bug that has been fixed in recent versions of Pharo >> >>> 1.0? Should I update the one-click image? >> >>> >> >>> Lukas >> >>> >> >>> On 8 February 2010 11:56, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> wrote: >> >>>> Yes, after the correction is working >> >>>> >> >>>> ciao >> >>>> >> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >> >>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >> >>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:03 AM >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >> >> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Many thanks Mariano. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Clicking the wheel of the mouse is OK. >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Ok, but it shouldn't be like that. It must be fixed. Can you tell me >> >> please >> >>>> if after doing what I told you, right button works actually in the >> real >> >>>> right button ? >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Grazie >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Ciao >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >> >>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >> >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:54 AM >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it >> > >> >>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks Mariano, >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> but unfortunately I cannot save the change; is there any different >> way >> >> to >> >>>>>> save the changes without clicking the right button? >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Everything you do with the mouse / UI can be done by code in a >> >> workspace. >> >>>>> Both send the same message :) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> But anyway, you "right" button must be working. Not in the physical >> >> real >> >>>>> right button, but, in the "wheel" button. If you have a real 3 keys >> >> mouse, >> >>>>> click the middle (the one of the wheel) button and it will act as >> >> "right" >> >>>>> button. If you are using a touchpad in a laptop, press left and >> right >> >>>>> together. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> To save an image and quite with "code" you can evaluate in a >> workspace: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> SmalltalkImage current snapshot: true andQuit: true. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Then you can select that text, and just ctrl + d (to do it). No >> need >> >> of >> >>>>> the mouse. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Cheers >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Mariano >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Thanks >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Lorenzo >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> >>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >> >>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:19 AM >> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >> >>>>>> Just to do a test, what happen if you do the following: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> swapMouseButtons >> >>>>>> ^ self >> >>>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >> >>>>>> ifAbsent: [ >> >>>>>> true ] >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Did that fix it ? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Cheers >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Mariano >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it >> > >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Yes, is Seaside 3.0 one-click image. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> For example, if I enter into a method and I make a modification >> and I >> >>>>>>> try to save it clicking with right button in the editing window, >> >> nothing >> >>>>>>> happens. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> I have no response in any window of the system. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Many thanks >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" < >> >> renggli(a)gmail.com> >> >>>>>>> To: "Seaside - general discussion" < >> >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> >> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:29 AM >> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> I dowloaded Pharo 3.0 for Window Vista >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Pharo 1.0 is about to be released, so I guess you refer to the >> >> Seaside >> >>>>>>> 3.0 one-click image? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> but I cannot use the right button of >> >>>>>>>> my mouse; I enterede in key board preferences, but I was not able >> to >> >>>>>>>> set mouse properly. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Can you elaborate what you are trying to do and what exactly does >> not >> >>>>>>> work? Maybe somebody else can help that has a windows installation >> at >> >>>>>>> hand? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Lukas >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> Lukas Renggli >> >>>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>>> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>>> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> ________________________________ >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ________________________________ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ________________________________ >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> seaside mailing list >> >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Lukas Renggli >> >>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> seaside mailing list >> >>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> seaside mailing list >> >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button

by Gary Chambers

Have you tried the "3 button mouse" windows VM option to see if it changes the behaviour? Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Mariano Martinez Peck To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: Yes, but this was fixed, wasn't it? The problem of the wrong order of InputEventSensor in the startup list was resolved in August. At least the following evaluates to true in current PharoCore 1.0: ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #OSPlatform) < ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #InputEventSensor). yes, this returns true. So. It doesn't seem to be the same problem. So, yes, there was a known problem but I assumed it was fixed. Probably, what we are seeing now is related. According to Bill, the setting is wrong on Windows when the image that was first saved on Linux is started without being saved first (if I understand correctly). There can be two reasons: at startup either the initialization of the mouse mapping is not triggered (which I doubt) or it is triggered but the platform is still the old one. Can somebody that has the problem check what is going on? I have tested, and even saving the image, the problem is not fixed. The only way to really fix it (at least what I worked for me is what I said to the guy in Seaside...I paste here: 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: swapMouseButtons ^ self valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons ifAbsent: [ true ] 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. with this, swapMouseButtons returns true. So....maybe, what it is wrong is the OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows I don't know :( Cheers, Adrian On Feb 8, 2010, at 14:12 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > >> (moving this discussion to Pharo-dev) >> >> No, there is no fix (and as far as I know the problem has not been known >> before). >> > > Adrian, I think that it was known. > > See issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=838 > > And threads: > > http://n4.nabble.com/right-button-still-doesn-t-work-on-Windows-td1303494.h… > http://n4.nabble.com/swapMouseButtons-doesn-t-work-td1306309.html > > >> The current implementation tries to do "the right thing" based on the >> current platform: >> >> swapMouseButtons >> ^ self >> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >> ifAbsent: [ >> OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows ] >> >> >> Is this behavior not correct for Windows users in general? Or is there a >> user-specific issue? >> >> > > I did the experiment to the guy in seaside mailing list and seems to work ok > in Windows if that return true instead of false....So, I don't understand. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > Cheers, >> Adrian >> >> On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:06 , Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>> Mariano is that a bug that has been fixed in recent versions of Pharo >>> 1.0? Should I update the one-click image? >>> >>> Lukas >>> >>> On 8 February 2010 11:56, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> wrote: >>>> Yes, after the correction is working >>>> >>>> ciao >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:03 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks Mariano. >>>>> >>>>> Clicking the wheel of the mouse is OK. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Ok, but it shouldn't be like that. It must be fixed. Can you tell me >> please >>>> if after doing what I told you, right button works actually in the real >>>> right button ? >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Grazie >>>>> >>>>> Ciao >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:54 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Mariano, >>>>>> >>>>>> but unfortunately I cannot save the change; is there any different way >> to >>>>>> save the changes without clicking the right button? >>>>> >>>>> Everything you do with the mouse / UI can be done by code in a >> workspace. >>>>> Both send the same message :) >>>>> >>>>> But anyway, you "right" button must be working. Not in the physical >> real >>>>> right button, but, in the "wheel" button. If you have a real 3 keys >> mouse, >>>>> click the middle (the one of the wheel) button and it will act as >> "right" >>>>> button. If you are using a touchpad in a laptop, press left and right >>>>> together. >>>>> >>>>> To save an image and quite with "code" you can evaluate in a workspace: >>>>> >>>>> SmalltalkImage current snapshot: true andQuit: true. >>>>> >>>>> Then you can select that text, and just ctrl + d (to do it). No need >> of >>>>> the mouse. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Mariano >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> Lorenzo >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:19 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>>> Just to do a test, what happen if you do the following: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: >>>>>> >>>>>> swapMouseButtons >>>>>> ^ self >>>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >>>>>> ifAbsent: [ >>>>>> true ] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Did that fix it ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Mariano >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, is Seaside 3.0 one-click image. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For example, if I enter into a method and I make a modification and I >>>>>>> try to save it clicking with right button in the editing window, >> nothing >>>>>>> happens. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have no response in any window of the system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" < >> renggli(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: "Seaside - general discussion" < >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:29 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I dowloaded Pharo 3.0 for Window Vista >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pharo 1.0 is about to be released, so I guess you refer to the >> Seaside >>>>>>> 3.0 one-click image? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but I cannot use the right button of >>>>>>>> my mouse; I enterede in key board preferences, but I was not able to >>>>>>>> set mouse properly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you elaborate what you are trying to do and what exactly does not >>>>>>> work? Maybe somebody else can help that has a windows installation at >>>>>>> hand? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lukas >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Lukas Renggli >>>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seaside mailing list >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seaside mailing list >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > This is really confusing. What you are saying is that swapMouseButtons > should return true also on Windows and not only on Mac and Linux?! > > If yes, why the whole trouble of checking for the platform name... we can > always return true. > > ahhahahaha that's EXACTLY what I don't understand and I am confusing too. I just tested, and yes, it works ok when returns true. I give that tests to the person on Seaside, and yes, it worked ok. So.....I don't understand. Maybe something changed in the latest windows vm ? I am trying throught a VirtualBox, not really a native windows. Maybe there is a problem there ? > Adrian > > On Feb 8, 2010, at 16:01 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > > > >> Yes, but this was fixed, wasn't it? > >> > >> The problem of the wrong order of InputEventSensor in the startup list > was > >> resolved in August. At least the following evaluates to true in current > >> PharoCore 1.0: > >> > >> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #OSPlatform) < > >> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: > #InputEventSensor). > >> > >> > > yes, this returns true. So. It doesn't seem to be the same problem. > > > > > >> So, yes, there was a known problem but I assumed it was fixed. Probably, > >> what we are seeing now is related. According to Bill, the setting is > wrong > >> on Windows when the image that was first saved on Linux is started > without > >> being saved first (if I understand correctly). There can be two reasons: > at > >> startup either the initialization of the mouse mapping is not triggered > >> (which I doubt) or it is triggered but the platform is still the old > one. > >> Can somebody that has the problem check what is going on? > >> > >> > > I have tested, and even saving the image, the problem is not fixed. The > only > > way to really fix it (at least what I worked for me is what I said to the > > guy in Seaside...I paste here: > > > > 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: > > > > swapMouseButtons > > ^ self > > valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons > > ifAbsent: [ > > true ] > > > > > > 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. > > > > > > with this, swapMouseButtons returns true. > > > > So....maybe, what it is wrong is the OSPlatform current platformFamily > ~= > > #Windows > > > > I don't know :( > > > > > >> Cheers, > >> Adrian > >> > >> On Feb 8, 2010, at 14:12 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> > >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> > wrote: > >>> > >>>> (moving this discussion to Pharo-dev) > >>>> > >>>> No, there is no fix (and as far as I know the problem has not been > known > >>>> before). > >>>> > >>> > >>> Adrian, I think that it was known. > >>> > >>> See issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=838 > >>> > >>> And threads: > >>> > >>> > >> > http://n4.nabble.com/right-button-still-doesn-t-work-on-Windows-td1303494.h… > >>> http://n4.nabble.com/swapMouseButtons-doesn-t-work-td1306309.html > >>> > >>> > >>>> The current implementation tries to do "the right thing" based on the > >>>> current platform: > >>>> > >>>> swapMouseButtons > >>>> ^ self > >>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons > >>>> ifAbsent: [ > >>>> OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows ] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Is this behavior not correct for Windows users in general? Or is there > a > >>>> user-specific issue? > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> I did the experiment to the guy in seaside mailing list and seems to > work > >> ok > >>> in Windows if that return true instead of false....So, I don't > >> understand. > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Mariano > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>>> Adrian > >>>> > >>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:06 , Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Mariano is that a bug that has been fixed in recent versions of Pharo > >>>>> 1.0? Should I update the one-click image? > >>>>> > >>>>> Lukas > >>>>> > >>>>> On 8 February 2010 11:56, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> wrote: > >>>>>> Yes, after the correction is working > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ciao > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:03 AM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it > > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Many thanks Mariano. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Clicking the wheel of the mouse is OK. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ok, but it shouldn't be like that. It must be fixed. Can you tell me > >>>> please > >>>>>> if after doing what I told you, right button works actually in the > >> real > >>>>>> right button ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Grazie > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Ciao > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:54 AM > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina < > lorenzo(a)edor.it> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks Mariano, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> but unfortunately I cannot save the change; is there any different > >> way > >>>> to > >>>>>>>> save the changes without clicking the right button? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Everything you do with the mouse / UI can be done by code in a > >>>> workspace. > >>>>>>> Both send the same message :) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> But anyway, you "right" button must be working. Not in the physical > >>>> real > >>>>>>> right button, but, in the "wheel" button. If you have a real 3 keys > >>>> mouse, > >>>>>>> click the middle (the one of the wheel) button and it will act as > >>>> "right" > >>>>>>> button. If you are using a touchpad in a laptop, press left and > right > >>>>>>> together. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> To save an image and quite with "code" you can evaluate in a > >> workspace: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> SmalltalkImage current snapshot: true andQuit: true. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Then you can select that text, and just ctrl + d (to do it). No > need > >>>> of > >>>>>>> the mouse. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Mariano > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Lorenzo > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion > >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:19 AM > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>>>>> Just to do a test, what happen if you do the following: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> swapMouseButtons > >>>>>>>> ^ self > >>>>>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons > >>>>>>>> ifAbsent: [ > >>>>>>>> true ] > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Did that fix it ? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mariano > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina < > lorenzo(a)edor.it> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, is Seaside 3.0 one-click image. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> For example, if I enter into a method and I make a modification > and > >> I > >>>>>>>>> try to save it clicking with right button in the editing window, > >>>> nothing > >>>>>>>>> happens. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I have no response in any window of the system. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Many thanks > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" < > >>>> renggli(a)gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>> To: "Seaside - general discussion" < > >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:29 AM > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> I dowloaded Pharo 3.0 for Window Vista > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Pharo 1.0 is about to be released, so I guess you refer to the > >>>> Seaside > >>>>>>>>> 3.0 one-click image? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> but I cannot use the right button of > >>>>>>>>>> my mouse; I enterede in key board preferences, but I was not > able > >> to > >>>>>>>>>> set mouse properly. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Can you elaborate what you are trying to do and what exactly does > >> not > >>>>>>>>> work? Maybe somebody else can help that has a windows > installation > >> at > >>>>>>>>> hand? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Lukas > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli > >>>>>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>>>> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>>>> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>>> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>>> > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Lukas Renggli > >>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> seaside mailing list > >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button

by Adrian Lienhard

This is really confusing. What you are saying is that swapMouseButtons should return true also on Windows and not only on Mac and Linux?! If yes, why the whole trouble of checking for the platform name... we can always return true. Adrian On Feb 8, 2010, at 16:01 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > >> Yes, but this was fixed, wasn't it? >> >> The problem of the wrong order of InputEventSensor in the startup list was >> resolved in August. At least the following evaluates to true in current >> PharoCore 1.0: >> >> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #OSPlatform) < >> ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #InputEventSensor). >> >> > yes, this returns true. So. It doesn't seem to be the same problem. > > >> So, yes, there was a known problem but I assumed it was fixed. Probably, >> what we are seeing now is related. According to Bill, the setting is wrong >> on Windows when the image that was first saved on Linux is started without >> being saved first (if I understand correctly). There can be two reasons: at >> startup either the initialization of the mouse mapping is not triggered >> (which I doubt) or it is triggered but the platform is still the old one. >> Can somebody that has the problem check what is going on? >> >> > I have tested, and even saving the image, the problem is not fixed. The only > way to really fix it (at least what I worked for me is what I said to the > guy in Seaside...I paste here: > > 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: > > swapMouseButtons > ^ self > valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons > ifAbsent: [ > true ] > > > 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. > > > with this, swapMouseButtons returns true. > > So....maybe, what it is wrong is the OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= > #Windows > > I don't know :( > > >> Cheers, >> Adrian >> >> On Feb 8, 2010, at 14:12 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: >>> >>>> (moving this discussion to Pharo-dev) >>>> >>>> No, there is no fix (and as far as I know the problem has not been known >>>> before). >>>> >>> >>> Adrian, I think that it was known. >>> >>> See issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=838 >>> >>> And threads: >>> >>> >> http://n4.nabble.com/right-button-still-doesn-t-work-on-Windows-td1303494.h… >>> http://n4.nabble.com/swapMouseButtons-doesn-t-work-td1306309.html >>> >>> >>>> The current implementation tries to do "the right thing" based on the >>>> current platform: >>>> >>>> swapMouseButtons >>>> ^ self >>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >>>> ifAbsent: [ >>>> OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows ] >>>> >>>> >>>> Is this behavior not correct for Windows users in general? Or is there a >>>> user-specific issue? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I did the experiment to the guy in seaside mailing list and seems to work >> ok >>> in Windows if that return true instead of false....So, I don't >> understand. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> Cheers, >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:06 , Lukas Renggli wrote: >>>> >>>>> Mariano is that a bug that has been fixed in recent versions of Pharo >>>>> 1.0? Should I update the one-click image? >>>>> >>>>> Lukas >>>>> >>>>> On 8 February 2010 11:56, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> wrote: >>>>>> Yes, after the correction is working >>>>>> >>>>>> ciao >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:03 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks Mariano. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clicking the wheel of the mouse is OK. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, but it shouldn't be like that. It must be fixed. Can you tell me >>>> please >>>>>> if after doing what I told you, right button works actually in the >> real >>>>>> right button ? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Grazie >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ciao >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:54 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Mariano, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but unfortunately I cannot save the change; is there any different >> way >>>> to >>>>>>>> save the changes without clicking the right button? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Everything you do with the mouse / UI can be done by code in a >>>> workspace. >>>>>>> Both send the same message :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But anyway, you "right" button must be working. Not in the physical >>>> real >>>>>>> right button, but, in the "wheel" button. If you have a real 3 keys >>>> mouse, >>>>>>> click the middle (the one of the wheel) button and it will act as >>>> "right" >>>>>>> button. If you are using a touchpad in a laptop, press left and right >>>>>>> together. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To save an image and quite with "code" you can evaluate in a >> workspace: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> SmalltalkImage current snapshot: true andQuit: true. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then you can select that text, and just ctrl + d (to do it). No need >>>> of >>>>>>> the mouse. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mariano >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lorenzo >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:19 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>>>>> Just to do a test, what happen if you do the following: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> swapMouseButtons >>>>>>>> ^ self >>>>>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons >>>>>>>> ifAbsent: [ >>>>>>>> true ] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Did that fix it ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mariano >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, is Seaside 3.0 one-click image. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For example, if I enter into a method and I make a modification and >> I >>>>>>>>> try to save it clicking with right button in the editing window, >>>> nothing >>>>>>>>> happens. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have no response in any window of the system. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Many thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" < >>>> renggli(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> To: "Seaside - general discussion" < >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:29 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I dowloaded Pharo 3.0 for Window Vista >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pharo 1.0 is about to be released, so I guess you refer to the >>>> Seaside >>>>>>>>> 3.0 one-click image? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but I cannot use the right button of >>>>>>>>>> my mouse; I enterede in key board preferences, but I was not able >> to >>>>>>>>>> set mouse properly. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you elaborate what you are trying to do and what exactly does >> not >>>>>>>>> work? Maybe somebody else can help that has a windows installation >> at >>>>>>>>> hand? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Lukas >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Lukas Renggli >>>>>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Lukas Renggli >>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> seaside mailing list >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seaside mailing list >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ImageSegment part 3 ready to integrate

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Great! Thanks Mariano. > > You are welcome. You will notice that after this commit, it is much "easier" to put ImageSegment as separate package. So...if you wanted to continue my work and to put that out, I think after this slice, it is a good start point :) At least, this is the maximum I could did so far. Cheers Mariano > Adrian > > On Feb 8, 2010, at 15:02 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Issue http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1940 > > > > SLICE-Issue1940-ImageSegmentCleaningPart3-Mariano.3 in PharoInbox. > > > > - remove #fixCapitalizationOfSymbols > > - remove TTCFontSet code from #comeFullyUpOnReload: > > This even fixes a cycle dependency between ImageSegment and Multilingual > > - the following implementors were moved to category *System-Object > Storage: > > *startUpFrom: > > *saveImageSegments: > > *areThereImageSegments > > *rootStubInImageSegment: > > *scanFromNoCompile: aStream forSegment: anImageSegment > > > > Now we have a cleaner kernel (Object, Behavior, etc) and a little step > more > > to put ImageSegment as a separate package. > > > > This is not possible yet as there are method from the kernel referencing > to > > ImageSegment. > > > > Take into account that ImageSegment tests are failing but due to issue > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1941 > > However, "rollbacking" that problem I make sure that this ImageSegment > > version is working. > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [Seaside] mouse right button

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Yes, but this was fixed, wasn't it? > > The problem of the wrong order of InputEventSensor in the startup list was > resolved in August. At least the following evaluates to true in current > PharoCore 1.0: > > ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #OSPlatform) < > ((SystemDictionary classPool at: 'StartUpList') indexOf: #InputEventSensor). > > yes, this returns true. So. It doesn't seem to be the same problem. > So, yes, there was a known problem but I assumed it was fixed. Probably, > what we are seeing now is related. According to Bill, the setting is wrong > on Windows when the image that was first saved on Linux is started without > being saved first (if I understand correctly). There can be two reasons: at > startup either the initialization of the mouse mapping is not triggered > (which I doubt) or it is triggered but the platform is still the old one. > Can somebody that has the problem check what is going on? > > I have tested, and even saving the image, the problem is not fixed. The only way to really fix it (at least what I worked for me is what I said to the guy in Seaside...I paste here: 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: swapMouseButtons ^ self valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons ifAbsent: [ true ] 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. with this, swapMouseButtons returns true. So....maybe, what it is wrong is the OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows I don't know :( > Cheers, > Adrian > > On Feb 8, 2010, at 14:12 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > > > >> (moving this discussion to Pharo-dev) > >> > >> No, there is no fix (and as far as I know the problem has not been known > >> before). > >> > > > > Adrian, I think that it was known. > > > > See issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=838 > > > > And threads: > > > > > http://n4.nabble.com/right-button-still-doesn-t-work-on-Windows-td1303494.h… > > http://n4.nabble.com/swapMouseButtons-doesn-t-work-td1306309.html > > > > > >> The current implementation tries to do "the right thing" based on the > >> current platform: > >> > >> swapMouseButtons > >> ^ self > >> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons > >> ifAbsent: [ > >> OSPlatform current platformFamily ~= #Windows ] > >> > >> > >> Is this behavior not correct for Windows users in general? Or is there a > >> user-specific issue? > >> > >> > > > > I did the experiment to the guy in seaside mailing list and seems to work > ok > > in Windows if that return true instead of false....So, I don't > understand. > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > Cheers, > >> Adrian > >> > >> On Feb 8, 2010, at 12:06 , Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> > >>> Mariano is that a bug that has been fixed in recent versions of Pharo > >>> 1.0? Should I update the one-click image? > >>> > >>> Lukas > >>> > >>> On 8 February 2010 11:56, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> wrote: > >>>> Yes, after the correction is working > >>>> > >>>> ciao > >>>> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>> To: Seaside - general discussion > >>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 11:03 AM > >>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Many thanks Mariano. > >>>>> > >>>>> Clicking the wheel of the mouse is OK. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Ok, but it shouldn't be like that. It must be fixed. Can you tell me > >> please > >>>> if after doing what I told you, right button works actually in the > real > >>>> right button ? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Grazie > >>>>> > >>>>> Ciao > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion > >>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:54 AM > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks Mariano, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> but unfortunately I cannot save the change; is there any different > way > >> to > >>>>>> save the changes without clicking the right button? > >>>>> > >>>>> Everything you do with the mouse / UI can be done by code in a > >> workspace. > >>>>> Both send the same message :) > >>>>> > >>>>> But anyway, you "right" button must be working. Not in the physical > >> real > >>>>> right button, but, in the "wheel" button. If you have a real 3 keys > >> mouse, > >>>>> click the middle (the one of the wheel) button and it will act as > >> "right" > >>>>> button. If you are using a touchpad in a laptop, press left and right > >>>>> together. > >>>>> > >>>>> To save an image and quite with "code" you can evaluate in a > workspace: > >>>>> > >>>>> SmalltalkImage current snapshot: true andQuit: true. > >>>>> > >>>>> Then you can select that text, and just ctrl + d (to do it). No need > >> of > >>>>> the mouse. > >>>>> > >>>>> Cheers > >>>>> > >>>>> Mariano > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Thanks > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Lorenzo > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>>> From: Mariano Martinez Peck > >>>>>> To: Seaside - general discussion > >>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:19 AM > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>>> Just to do a test, what happen if you do the following: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1) Change Preferences class >> swapMouseButtons to this: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> swapMouseButtons > >>>>>> ^ self > >>>>>> valueOfFlag: #swapMouseButtons > >>>>>> ifAbsent: [ > >>>>>> true ] > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2) Save the image. Quite and start again. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Did that fix it ? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Mariano > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Lorenzo Schiavina <lorenzo(a)edor.it> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes, is Seaside 3.0 one-click image. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> For example, if I enter into a method and I make a modification and > I > >>>>>>> try to save it clicking with right button in the editing window, > >> nothing > >>>>>>> happens. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have no response in any window of the system. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Many thanks > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lukas Renggli" < > >> renggli(a)gmail.com> > >>>>>>> To: "Seaside - general discussion" < > >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org> > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 9:29 AM > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] mouse right button > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I dowloaded Pharo 3.0 for Window Vista > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Pharo 1.0 is about to be released, so I guess you refer to the > >> Seaside > >>>>>>> 3.0 one-click image? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> but I cannot use the right button of > >>>>>>>> my mouse; I enterede in key board preferences, but I was not able > to > >>>>>>>> set mouse properly. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Can you elaborate what you are trying to do and what exactly does > not > >>>>>>> work? Maybe somebody else can help that has a windows installation > at > >>>>>>> hand? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Lukas > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Lukas Renggli > >>>>>>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ________________________________ > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> seaside mailing list > >>>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> seaside mailing list > >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> seaside mailing list > >>>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Lukas Renggli > >>> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> seaside mailing list > >>> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> seaside mailing list > >> seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

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