February 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] HelpSystem (was ProfStef)

by Mariano Martinez Peck

I like the idea. All what is help and documentation, I like it :) Now....It is not clear for me the differences between HelpSystem and ProfStef. Help system is new ? or it was in squeaksource several years ago ? which are the differences between them ? are they related ? should they be merged? when we should use one and when the other ? Of course that this will be cool to include in PharoDev (not in 1.0, thus) Thanks for any clarification. Mariano On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Danny Chan <chan_dhf(a)yahoo.de> wrote: > Am Samstag, 13. Februar 2010 00:47:36 schrieb Torsten Bergmann: > > Page order is now defined using a method #pages. > > Also more help texts are added. Just try: > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'; > > load. > > > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) load. > > > > HelpSystem reset. > > HelpBrowser open > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Have fun, > > T. > > > > > Hi! > > I like the browser with the icons and that you can nest books. I have > implemented some authoring capabilities in ProfStefBrowser to create new > tutorials, save changes to the current page or add another one, and to > reorder > pages on the fly. I also have a bit of code to jump to a particular > book/page > from code. I would like to add this to your code, maybe shown only in some > kind of expert mode controlled by a setting. I would like to have a help > system that can grow with the user's experience. Here are some additonal > ideas > I've had: > > - Seamless integration with Monticello, so that a user can rewrite parts of > a > tutorial and upload it directly from the browser to a tutorial inbox > - Integration of functionality from ScriptManager > - Some kind of simple markup language to have for example links to other > pages > or books, or to execute code snippets with a single mouse click > - I guess it is possible to highlight GUI elements somehow from code. > Wouldn't > it be cool to not have a lot of pictures in a help page that show your tool > and which button to click, but rather be able to highlight the right button > directly in the running tool? > - Following up on your idea about integration with tools, what about > integration with the debugger? Have a help item in every tool by default, > and > when you click on it have the option from the debugger to create a help > page > on the fly and submit it to the tool maintainer > > > What do you think? > > Cheers, Danny > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] HelpSystem (was ProfStef)

by Danny Chan

Am Samstag, 13. Februar 2010 00:47:36 schrieb Torsten Bergmann: > Page order is now defined using a method #pages. > Also more help texts are added. Just try: > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfHelpSystem'; > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfHelpSystem) load. > > HelpSystem reset. > HelpBrowser open > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Have fun, > T. > Hi! I like the browser with the icons and that you can nest books. I have implemented some authoring capabilities in ProfStefBrowser to create new tutorials, save changes to the current page or add another one, and to reorder pages on the fly. I also have a bit of code to jump to a particular book/page from code. I would like to add this to your code, maybe shown only in some kind of expert mode controlled by a setting. I would like to have a help system that can grow with the user's experience. Here are some additonal ideas I've had: - Seamless integration with Monticello, so that a user can rewrite parts of a tutorial and upload it directly from the browser to a tutorial inbox - Integration of functionality from ScriptManager - Some kind of simple markup language to have for example links to other pages or books, or to execute code snippets with a single mouse click - I guess it is possible to highlight GUI elements somehow from code. Wouldn't it be cool to not have a lot of pictures in a help page that show your tool and which button to click, but rather be able to highlight the right button directly in the running tool? - Following up on your idea about integration with tools, what about integration with the debugger? Have a help item in every tool by default, and when you click on it have the option from the debugger to create a help page on the fly and submit it to the tool maintainer What do you think? Cheers, Danny

Feb. 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11205

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

11205 ----- - FloatTest - UIManager>>request:initialAnswer:centerAt: and subclass. - RunArray class>>scanFrom: more robust - Issue 1961: Exception empty message and String empty.... - Issue 1955: Parser should parse 16rff Fixing digitValue: to be named digitValueOf: (part one)

Feb. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] about NumberParser

by Nicolas Cellier

2010/2/13 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Hi nicolas > > I like the idea to have an easy to customize parser number. > Do you have a slice that I could integrate once your changes are done. > Or show I go in squeak trunk and take the code? > I imagine that we could then package FORTRAN and ExtendedNumberParser in a different package. > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1960 > Changes should be very easy to pick. FORTRANNumberParser is just a demonstrator and should find it's way out of kernel image. However, ExtendedNumberParser is designed for Kernel, for enhancing String>>asNumber. Nicolas > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Fraction>>adaptToScaledDecimal:andSend:

by Nicolas Cellier

2010/2/13 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Hi nicolas > > I saw that you are working on squeak on Fraction and ScaledDecimal. > How is it related to the change we discussed a while ago about Float? > How squeak deals with the fact that scaledDecimal was not MIT (if I remember correctly)? > I would like to avoid to diverge too quickly on numbers :) > > Stef Just putting Squeak to the level of Pharo :), I probably took the coercion test from Pharo,can't remember. Concerning license stuff, I'll wait announcement of 4.0, no hurry. But sure, there is no reason to diverge on core. Nicolas > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] web services, pharo

by laurent laffont

Hi, I would like to record a screencast with the following scenario: - search for pictures using Flickr web services, http://www.flickr.com/services/api/, XML-RPC response - parse the XML to get pictures URL - download pictures - display them in a morphic GUI Which packages should I use to use Web services, parse XML, download pictures ? Is there existing apps / code which do this sort of things ? Thanks ! Laurent Laffont

Feb. 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] About String empty and others

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys chris mueller proposed in squeak to have Exception>>messageText "Return an exception's message text." + ^ messageText ifNil: [ String empty ]! - - ^messageText! - Added Array class>>#empty and String class>>#empty to provide applications with canonicalized instances of these oft-used objects; since they are embedded as literals in the CompiledMethod. =============== Diff against Collections-ar.304 =============== Item was added: + ----- Method: Array class>>empty (in category 'instance creation') ----- + empty + "A canonicalized empty Array instance." + ^ #()! Item was added: + ----- Method: String class>>empty (in category 'instance creation') ----- + empty + "A canonicalized empty String instance." + ^ ''! Item was removed: - ----- Method: String>>asDefaultDecodedString (in category 'converting') ----- - asDefaultDecodedString - - ^ self http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1961

Feb. 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] about NumberParser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi nicolas I like the idea to have an easy to customize parser number. Do you have a slice that I could integrate once your changes are done. Or show I go in squeak trunk and take the code? I imagine that we could then package FORTRAN and ExtendedNumberParser in a different package. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1960 Stef

Feb. 13, 2010

[Pharo-project] Fraction>>adaptToScaledDecimal:andSend:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi nicolas I saw that you are working on squeak on Fraction and ScaledDecimal. How is it related to the change we discussed a while ago about Float? How squeak deals with the fact that scaledDecimal was not MIT (if I remember correctly)? I would like to avoid to diverge too quickly on numbers :) Stef

Feb. 13, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo changing the game

by Nicolas Cellier

2010/2/13 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Send code and it will be fixed in one hour. > > Stef > And you'll break another feature 16r7Fe7. So you have to think twice... Nicolas >> I think the really tragic thing is that nothing in Smalltalk remains stable. >> >> It would seem to me that in a language that has been around thirty years or so that core data types like numbers, dates, times, and (hopefully, although adoption of unicode was disruptive) strings would be the same across all the dialects. >> >> By now, there should be some chunks of the system that we can deem fully mature and then learn to LEAVE ALONE. >> >> The 16rff issue is a fine example of an absolutely stupid incompatibility. >> >> Just my $.04 >> >> -Todd Blanchard >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 13, 2010