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[Pharo-project] PhD and PostDoc topics with us at Lille :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi all INRIA is offering some PhD positions and we are looking for candidates (note that a commitee will decide not us). Here are the topics for our team Reflection and Security in Dynamic Languages http://www.inria.fr/travailler/mrted/en/doc/details.html?id=PNGFK026203F3VB… Software re-modularization http://www.inria.fr/travailler/mrted/en/doc/details.html?id=PNGFK026203F3VB… Deadline for applying: Mai 4 for the postdoc you should have defended your PhD by end of October (I should check) Reflection and Scoping in Dynamic Languages http://www.inria.fr/travailler/mrted/en/postdoc/details.html?id=PNGFK026203… Designing a pure trait-based language http://www.inria.fr/travailler/mrted/en/postdoc/details.html?id=PNGFK026203… Deadline for applying: Mars 14 please distribute :)

Feb. 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Failing ECUntypedModelTest >> testNarrowWith

by Romain Robbes

yes, this test should either be deleted or rewritten. When I'm back from holidays I'll look into it. Romain On Monday, February 15, 2010, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It is stupid to have tests that depend on what else is loaded in the image. > > OB and RB (for some parts) use a fake image with fake classes and > methods in which they run their test. > > Lukas > > 2010/2/14 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi Lukas/Romain.Â While building a PharoDev, I noticed that >> ECUntypedModelTest >> testNarrowWithÂ Â is failing. >> >> The problem is in: >> >> Â Â Â self assert: count > 100. >> >> as "count", which is equal to "model entries size", is 98. >> >> Of course, if I change it to >> >> self assert: count > 90. >> >> for example, it works prefect. >> >> I have no idea about this. What do you think ? >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 15, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11211

by Marcus Denker

11211 ----- Issue 502: [Pending Etoy Cleaning] Morph>>standardPalette Issue 1366: MIMEDocument>>MIMEDocument>>contentType: aMIMETypeOrAString??? content: content -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Feb. 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Cleaning included Monticello repositories in PharoCore

by Adrian Lienhard

+1 Adrian BTW: packages such as Gofer and Polymorph are all copied/merged in the Pharo repository On Feb 15, 2010, at 09:59 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Ok...thanks for the answers. Then we should keep only 1 and 2. > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1967 > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> 1) http://www.squeaksource.com/Pharo >>> 2) http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox >>> 3) www.squeaksource.com/Installer >>> 4) www.squeaksource.com/UIEnhancements >>> 5) http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/flair >> >> I sugest to only keep 1 and 2. >> >> Lukas >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> http://www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] web services, pharo

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/2/14 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > > 2010/2/14 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > >> Incredible. Clap clap clap! >> > > ^o^ > > >> >> Let me say that I really like your screencast and every time I see them, I >> learn. > > > Me too while recording :) I hope other people will contribute.... > > Sure they will. At least giving ideas. Take as an example the ProfStef. Now, it is included in PharoDev. GLASS did their tutorials with it. Danny build a cool browser for it. Torsten build a HelpSyste. Etc etc etc... Here is my contribution. I have more ideas :) 1) I would like a screencast to demostrate how to use Monticello and SqueakSource. We can take as an example, and reuse the PicasaAPI project. Little ideas: - Create the package in Monticello Browser - Create a user in squeaksource - create the project in squeaksource - commit it - see changes - merge - take a clean image and load 2) I would like a screencast to demostrate how to build a Metacello configuration and load it. We can take as an example, and reuse the PicasaAPI project. Little ideas, altough maybe they can be split: - Demonstrate how hard is to load your project in a clean image. You have to install all dependencies by hand, you don't know which versions, and you don't know what packages to load. This point can be even part of 1) - Show how to create a new Metacello configuration. - Commit it to MonticelloRepository - How to load it in another clean image 3) Advanced Metacello: show how to create and load groups, project references, etc. You can also show Metacello OB tools and Metaceller 4) This is boring but useful. A screencast that shows how to open an issue. It would be really cool to do it with a real bug. You can record how to reproduce the bug in the image, then how to search in issue tracker and open the issue. The idea is to show all these steps: http://www.pharo-project.org/community/issue-tracking 5) This is boring but useful. A screencast that shows how to commit. If it is only one package, just that to inbox, if there are several projects, how to create a slice package and use the "dirty packages" trick, etc... Again, it would be really cool if it can be a real commit. Even better, if it is a fix for 4) The idea is to show all these steps: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/HowToContribute Ok....those are all the ideas I have for the moment :) Thanks for you excellent work. Mariano > I think that we really should have a link from the official pharo website >> to your blog. >> > > There's one here: http://pharo-project.org/documentation/tutorials-books > > >> >> Little note just in case you didn't know. To TAB right or left several >> rows/lines, just select them and use the shortcuts ctrl + shift + r (to tab >> right) or ctrl + shit + l (to tab left) :) >> > > Cool, thank you. I hope shortcut assignment will be better in 1.1 > > Laurent Laffont > > >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> 2010/2/14 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >> >> Thanks for help and .... enjoy :) >>> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/02/rest-xml-parsing-and-photos.html >>> >>> >>> Laurent Laffont >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM, laurent laffont < >>> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Make sure that the stream is binary: >>>>> SketchMorph fromStream: (' >>>>> http://lh3.ggpht.com/_BvlW9mJ6MFc/R-p4PtCKitI/AAAAAAAAA1A/jySYN6rz_pc/DSC00…' >>>>> asUrl retrieveContents contents asByteArray readStream) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Levente >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It works ! Thank you ! You've just saved a screencast :) >>>> >>>> Laurent Laffont >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Laurent Laffont >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2010/2/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think he talks about this one >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/squeakbook/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2010/2/13 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Which web page ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Laurent Laffont >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:42 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >>>>>>>> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> laurent have a look in the network chapter of the new blue book >>>>>>>>> (collective book available on web page) >>>>>>>>> because I do not remember but you could find some snippets going in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> same sense. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2010, at 3:29 PM, laurent laffont wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (SketchMorph fromStream: >>>>>>>>>> ('http://code.google.com/p/pharo/logo' >>>>>>>>>> asUrl retrieveContents contentStream)) openInWorld >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OCR was [web services, pharo]

by laurent laffont

Cool. And about OCR / Webcam capture ? Laurent Laffont 2010/2/15 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > 2010/2/15 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > > now that I work in library software :) ... >> >> Fetch data from ISBN is not so difficult, depends on the provider you >> want. The most used protocol around the world is Z39.50 >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z39.50 to get MARC formatted catalogs >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIMARC. I don't know if there's Smalltalk >> implementations of these standards. >> >> > Of course we have!!! > > > http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-Z39-50-FFI-Client-ZOOM-binding-td1307520.html#a130… > > >> If you don't need high level of details, Amazon, Library Thing, ... have >> good catalogs with modern web services to access them. >> >> For the webcam / scan part, I don't know what we have in Smalltalk. You >> need OCR tools... >> >> > I don't know, what would be cool. I suggest to send separate emails for > this to get more answers. > > > >> Laurent Laffont >> >> >> >> On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 10:24 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> I really like the idea of scripting and gluing together behavior. >>> What I would love to be able to do is to >>> use the webcam of my machine to scan a book ISBN number >>> and fetch all the data from a given provider. >>> Does anybody have an idea how we could plug all that together. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> On Feb 14, 2010, at 8:45 PM, laurent laffont wrote: >>> >>> > Thanks for help and .... enjoy :) >>> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/02/rest-xml-parsing-and-photos.html >>> > >>> > >>> > Laurent Laffont >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM, laurent laffont < >>> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > Make sure that the stream is binary: >>> > SketchMorph fromStream: (' >>> http://lh3.ggpht.com/_BvlW9mJ6MFc/R-p4PtCKitI/AAAAAAAAA1A/jySYN6rz_pc/DSC00…' >>> asUrl retrieveContents contents asByteArray readStream) >>> > >>> > >>> > Levente >>> > >>> > >>> > It works ! Thank you ! You've just saved a screencast :) >>> > >>> > Laurent Laffont >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Laurent Laffont >>> > >>> > >>> > 2010/2/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >>> > >>> > I think he talks about this one >>> > >>> > http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/squeakbook/ >>> > >>> > >>> > 2010/2/13 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>> > >>> > Which web page ? >>> > >>> > Laurent Laffont >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:42 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >>> > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> > >>> > laurent have a look in the network chapter of the new blue book >>> > (collective book available on web page) >>> > because I do not remember but you could find some snippets going in the >>> > same sense. >>> > >>> > Stef >>> > >>> > On Feb 13, 2010, at 3:29 PM, laurent laffont wrote: >>> > >>> > (SketchMorph fromStream: >>> > ('http://code.google.com/p/pharo/logo' >>> > asUrl retrieveContents contentStream)) openInWorld >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] web services, pharo

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/2/15 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > now that I work in library software :) ... > > Fetch data from ISBN is not so difficult, depends on the provider you want. > The most used protocol around the world is Z39.50 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z39.50 to get MARC formatted catalogs > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIMARC. I don't know if there's Smalltalk > implementations of these standards. > > Of course we have!!! http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-Z39-50-FFI-Client-ZOOM-binding-td1307520.html#a130… > If you don't need high level of details, Amazon, Library Thing, ... have > good catalogs with modern web services to access them. > > For the webcam / scan part, I don't know what we have in Smalltalk. You > need OCR tools... > > I don't know, what would be cool. I suggest to send separate emails for this to get more answers. > Laurent Laffont > > > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 10:24 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> I really like the idea of scripting and gluing together behavior. >> What I would love to be able to do is to >> use the webcam of my machine to scan a book ISBN number >> and fetch all the data from a given provider. >> Does anybody have an idea how we could plug all that together. >> >> Stef >> >> >> On Feb 14, 2010, at 8:45 PM, laurent laffont wrote: >> >> > Thanks for help and .... enjoy :) >> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/02/rest-xml-parsing-and-photos.html >> > >> > >> > Laurent Laffont >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 1:20 PM, laurent laffont < >> laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Make sure that the stream is binary: >> > SketchMorph fromStream: (' >> http://lh3.ggpht.com/_BvlW9mJ6MFc/R-p4PtCKitI/AAAAAAAAA1A/jySYN6rz_pc/DSC00…' >> asUrl retrieveContents contents asByteArray readStream) >> > >> > >> > Levente >> > >> > >> > It works ! Thank you ! You've just saved a screencast :) >> > >> > Laurent Laffont >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Laurent Laffont >> > >> > >> > 2010/2/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> > >> > I think he talks about this one >> > >> > http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/squeakbook/ >> > >> > >> > 2010/2/13 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >> > >> > Which web page ? >> > >> > Laurent Laffont >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 3:42 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> > >> > laurent have a look in the network chapter of the new blue book >> > (collective book available on web page) >> > because I do not remember but you could find some snippets going in the >> > same sense. >> > >> > Stef >> > >> > On Feb 13, 2010, at 3:29 PM, laurent laffont wrote: >> > >> > (SketchMorph fromStream: >> > ('http://code.google.com/p/pharo/logo' >> > asUrl retrieveContents contentStream)) openInWorld >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Cleaning included Monticello repositories in PharoCore

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ok...thanks for the answers. Then we should keep only 1 and 2. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1967 On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 1) http://www.squeaksource.com/Pharo > > 2) http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox > > 3) www.squeaksource.com/Installer > > 4) www.squeaksource.com/UIEnhancements > > 5) http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/flair > > I sugest to only keep 1 and 2. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Feb. 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Cleaning included Monticello repositories in PharoCore

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

good initiative Stef On Feb 14, 2010, at 11:11 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Hi folks: I was thinking that at least for the 1.0 release we should remove obsolete default repositories. I don't know if the word is "default" but I mean to those repositories that are already added when you download PharoCore 1.0 image. > > Those repositories are: > > 1) http://www.squeaksource.com/Pharo > 2) http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox > 3) www.squeaksource.com/Installer > 4) www.squeaksource.com/UIEnhancements > 5) http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/flair > > 1) and 2) are ok. > 3) I think we should remove it. > 4) and 5) are there becuase Gofer and Polymorph are included in the Core image? > > What do you think ? > > Cheers > > Mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 15, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Cleaning included Monticello repositories in PharoCore

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

normally what we should do is to copy the versions of gofer that are used in the pharo repository /probably we should do the same for polymorph. like that we have one self contained version. On Feb 15, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Geert Claes wrote: > > If Gofer and Polymorph are included in the Core image ... wouldn't it make > more sense for those to be moved to those Pharo repositories then? > -- > View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/Cleaning-included-Monticello-repositories-in-PharoCore… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Feb. 15, 2010