December 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3452 in pharo: GlorpDBX no longer loads due to garbled timestamp

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #2 on issue 3452 by ya...(a)rogers.com: GlorpDBX no longer loads due to garbled timestamp http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3452 Filed-in the 2 changesets in Issue 3224, and got the same stack trace as before. Today, I figured that maybe the timestamp is not garbled, an really is: pm From VisualWorksÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂÃÂ...etc... I changed #parseTimestampFrom: to check for 'VisualWorks' (see attached change set). Here are the crucial lines: ^ ((aString isEmpty or: [aString includesSubString: 'VisualWorks']) or:[aString = '<historical>']) ifTrue:[DateAndTime new] ifFalse:[ "Get the date start index and extract only those tokens that represent date or time" ... Now everything loaded fine. Attachments: SourceReference-parseTimestampFrom.st 1.3 KB

Dec. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Automated VM build server

by Igor Stasenko

On 18 December 2010 13:23, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > this is cool Igor. > can I get your scripts? (I'm working on a set to build the vms for mac, and > your scripts would Â be helpful) I will put everything to my clone repo git://gitorious.org/~abrabapupa/cogvm/sig-cog.git as soon as will be able to fully build Cog VM with freetype plugin. I built Cog with xcode, but i didn't checked if it can be built using command line. > I think we need to move the vm making stuff into a more formal and > repeatable process... so I think we need to bring the vmmaker into a > ConfigurationOfVMMaker... if we can achieve that, we can automatize the > building in a reliable way. So... if there are things inside cs's and other > formats, we first need to package them into monticello files (that's why I > packaged ClipboardExtended into VMMaker - my first contribution to vm :) ) > that's my 2c. Yes. > Cheers, > Esteban -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Dec. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3456 in pharo: ENH SUnit ClassFactoryForTestCase

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #1 on issue 3456 by bouraqadi: ENH SUnit ClassFactoryForTestCase http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3456 Code Attachments: enh3456-ParametrizableDefaultSuperclass.st 657 bytes

Dec. 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] Issue 3456 in pharo: ENH SUnit ClassFactoryForTestCase

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Status: New Owner: ---- New issue 3456 by bouraqadi: ENH SUnit ClassFactoryForTestCase http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3456 The default superclass is put in a dedicated method so it can be redefined in subclasses

Dec. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo features

by Ivano Arrighetta

Thanks, sorry for being impatient (I saw some activity and I tought this post were misunderstood as trollish/lamer). Well, it's like I'll have definitively to learn Pharo (or at least drop Emacs as the only chance) Thanks again. Il 18/12/2010 17:58, StÃ©phane Ducasse ha scritto: > HI ivano > > let a chance for people to go back from shopping and to read your mails. > >> Hello everyone. >> A friend of mine suggested me to use Pharo because I ask him for informations on Emacs in order to do some MultiMedia stuff. >> Now, is Pharo ok to do this? (list follows) >> Raster graphics (processing, synthesis, input/capturing, output/saving), > >> vector graphics (same), > There is a binding for openSVG and we will push it more. > >> 3D graphics (modeling, rigging, rendering, raytracing, opening and saving 3D files), > Some of them > www.opencroquet.org > http://www.impara.de/ > >> sound processing (sound synthesis, algoritmic music composition, post processing), > There were a lot of work now I'm not expert on sound. > Geomastro > Haute ecole de musique of Geneves is using pharo to develop specific software > >> video editing (opening, saving, cutting/rotating/processing video files), > There is a connection with Gstreamer and an old Mp3/mpeg support (I do not know the start) > > Now have a look at www.opensophie.org because this was made in Squeak. > > >> text processing (HTML output, regex/find and replace/whateverI would do with Word + Excel), > yes > >> Optical character recognition, > I do not know. > >> text to speech, > klatt was first try but now this is old. > Better connect a library for doing that. > Sme years ago we connected a database and system for french prononciation (tag brill or something like that) > >> speech recognition, > not that I know > >> ASCII Art. > ?? > >> >> Thanks in advance for any answer. > > >

Dec. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo features

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

HI ivano let a chance for people to go back from shopping and to read your mails. > Hello everyone. > A friend of mine suggested me to use Pharo because I ask him for informations on Emacs in order to do some MultiMedia stuff. > Now, is Pharo ok to do this? (list follows) > Raster graphics (processing, synthesis, input/capturing, output/saving), > vector graphics (same), There is a binding for openSVG and we will push it more. > 3D graphics (modeling, rigging, rendering, raytracing, opening and saving 3D files), Some of them www.opencroquet.org http://www.impara.de/ > sound processing (sound synthesis, algoritmic music composition, post processing), There were a lot of work now I'm not expert on sound. Geomastro Haute ecole de musique of Geneves is using pharo to develop specific software > video editing (opening, saving, cutting/rotating/processing video files), There is a connection with Gstreamer and an old Mp3/mpeg support (I do not know the start) Now have a look at www.opensophie.org because this was made in Squeak. > text processing (HTML output, regex/find and replace/whateverI would do with Word + Excel), yes > Optical character recognition, I do not know. > text to speech, klatt was first try but now this is old. Better connect a library for doing that. Sme years ago we connected a database and system for french prononciation (tag brill or something like that) > speech recognition, not that I know > ASCII Art. ?? > > Thanks in advance for any answer.

Dec. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Automated VM build server

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 18, 2010, at 1:23 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > this is cool Igor. > can I get your scripts? (I'm working on a set to build the vms for mac, and your scripts would be helpful) Everything will be on gitorious (or it is already there). > I think we need to move the vm making stuff into a more formal and repeatable process... oh yes! > so I think we need to bring the vmmaker into a ConfigurationOfVMMaker... is not already the case? I thought so at least jean-baptiste did one. > if we can achieve that, we will :) > we can automatize the building in a reliable way. We plan to have hudson servers for that too :) > So... if there are things inside cs's and other formats, we first need to package them into monticello files (that's why I packaged ClipboardExtended into VMMaker - my first contribution to vm :) ) > that's my 2c. > > Cheers, > Esteban > > El 18/12/2010, a las 7:31a.m., Mariano Martinez Peck escribiÃ³: > >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 17 December 2010 22:37, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> In our nearest plans is make an automated (Hudson based) build setup >> >> for Cog and Squeak VMs. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > this is cool igor!!! >> > >> >> >> >> a) image version (or its URL(s) for download) >> >> b) script for loading VMMaker (of concrete version) >> > >> > but how can you set a concrete version if the buid is automatic ? how do you >> > know which version of VMMaker and ALL its dependencies? >> >> we will collect necessary info bit by bit. >> Obviously, this knowledge is already sits over there, in image, >> otherwise how else >> we manage to build VMs till those days? >> I just want to automate it, which will leave less space for human mistake. >> >> > are you going to use ConfigurationOfVMMaker ? if true, how is going to >> > maintain it? >> > >> >> i am not quite sure if metacello will be capable to keep all this info. >> Some things may require using changesets or other kind of >> non-packageable messy code. >> We will see. Things are scary from distance :) >> In any case i don't think that a config, which fully describing a >> conglomerate used to generate VM sources and plugins >> is any bit worse than image which contains same info. >> Except that you can't diff two smalltalk images to see what difference >> between them. >> >> >> Igor, what I wanted to express (maybe I did it wrong), is that we need to first solve a previous problem with the VM. >> I think we first need to be able to TRACE! And for TRACE I mean, that for a specific VM state, I can trace: >> - which METACELLO version to use in order to generate sources. And with this metacello version, we can guess ALL the versions of all requiered packages >> - which SVN version >> >> If the idea is to always load all the latest code, then you can just load the baseline of ConfigurationOfVMMaker and that's all. With svn is even easier. >> >> cheers >> >> mariano >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> >

Dec. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3455 in pharo: Some SystemNavigationTests failed in 1.2-Dev

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Labels: Type-FailingTest Milestone-1.2-DevImage Comment #1 on issue 3455 by luc.fabresse: Some SystemNavigationTests failed in 1.2-Dev http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3455 (No comment was entered for this change.)

Dec. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo features

by Ivano Arrighetta

Bump... This is not a troll/lame post, I'm interestedfor real in these topics. Is Pharo ok for programming on these topics? Il 18/12/2010 14:08, Ivano Arrighetta ha scritto: > Hello everyone. > A friend of mine suggested me to use Pharo because I ask him for > informations on Emacs in order to do some MultiMedia stuff. > Now, is Pharo ok to do this? (list follows) > Raster graphics (processing, synthesis, input/capturing, > output/saving), vector graphics (same), 3D graphics (modeling, > rigging, rendering, raytracing, opening and saving 3D files), sound > processing (sound synthesis, algoritmic music composition, post > processing), video editing (opening, saving, > cutting/rotating/processing video files), text processing (HTML > output, regex/find and replace/whateverI would do with Word + Excel), > Optical character recognition, text to speech, speech recognition, > ASCII Art. > > Thanks in advance for any answer.

Dec. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Graph library in Smalltalk - Need for advices

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> May this is a ridiculuous thought but may be it would be good to start an effort on >> build a library for Smalltalk. Reusing some part of mondrian could be good. > > It would be very slow and really a lot of work. Mondrian is nice for visualization, but a Graph library is a lot more than that. But not starting means that we will never have anything. If there are multiple people needed something this means that they can join forces. For Moose, mondrian, glamour, petitParser, RB.... nothing came out from a day to the other one this is just that some guys starred and continued to push. Stef

Dec. 18, 2010