December 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] PNGReadWriter2Plugin

by Alexandre Bergel

Ah ok, it makes sense Alexandre On 22 Dec 2010, at 17:25, Denis Kudriashov wrote: > I just search more faster way to read png files. > > I read discussion about bmp plugin. And primitive supported reading is 10 times faster then smalltalk implementation. > > And I start to search png analogous. And I found PNGReadWriter2 plugin. > > 2010/12/22 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> > Why do we need a plugin for this? So far, I am quite happy with the exportAsPNG found in Morph. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On 22 Dec 2010, at 17:10, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > On 22 December 2010 20:45, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello > >> > >> Is somebody have built windows PNGReadWriter2Plugin dll? > >> Can you share it? > > > > Err.. i can't find it. where you seen it? > > > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Denis > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] PNGReadWriter2Plugin

by Luc Fabresse

ok, it is for speed. so why don't we use a FFI (FFI, Alien, NB or another) to directly call external lib? #Luc 2010/12/22 Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> > I just search more faster way to read png files. > > I read discussion about bmp plugin. And primitive supported reading is 10 > times faster then smalltalk implementation. > > And I start to search png analogous. And I found PNGReadWriter2 plugin. > > 2010/12/22 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> > > Why do we need a plugin for this? So far, I am quite happy with the >> exportAsPNG found in Morph. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> >> On 22 Dec 2010, at 17:10, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> > On 22 December 2010 20:45, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> >> >> Is somebody have built windows PNGReadWriter2Plugin dll? >> >> Can you share it? >> > >> > Err.. i can't find it. where you seen it? >> > >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Denis >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Best regards, >> > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> > >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >

Dec. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] PNGReadWriter2Plugin

by Luc Fabresse

I ask myself the same question: why do we need plugins to read/write images (PNG, BMP, ..)? I would understand it for JPG which requires some heavy computation. any hint? #Luc 2010/12/22 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> > Why do we need a plugin for this? So far, I am quite happy with the > exportAsPNG found in Morph. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On 22 Dec 2010, at 17:10, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > On 22 December 2010 20:45, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello > >> > >> Is somebody have built windows PNGReadWriter2Plugin dll? > >> Can you share it? > > > > Err.. i can't find it. where you seen it? > > > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Denis > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > >

Dec. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] PNGReadWriter2Plugin

by Denis Kudriashov

I just search more faster way to read png files. I read discussion about bmp plugin. And primitive supported reading is 10 times faster then smalltalk implementation. And I start to search png analogous. And I found PNGReadWriter2 plugin. 2010/12/22 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> > Why do we need a plugin for this? So far, I am quite happy with the > exportAsPNG found in Morph. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On 22 Dec 2010, at 17:10, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > On 22 December 2010 20:45, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello > >> > >> Is somebody have built windows PNGReadWriter2Plugin dll? > >> Can you share it? > > > > Err.. i can't find it. where you seen it? > > > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Denis > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > >

Dec. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] PNGReadWriter2Plugin

by Alexandre Bergel

Why do we need a plugin for this? So far, I am quite happy with the exportAsPNG found in Morph. Cheers, Alexandre On 22 Dec 2010, at 17:10, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 22 December 2010 20:45, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hello >> >> Is somebody have built windows PNGReadWriter2Plugin dll? >> Can you share it? > > Err.. i can't find it. where you seen it? > >> >> Best regards, >> Denis >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2010 - Thank you!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

:) I showed Smalltalk to hilaire too :) and he was living in this lost place too :) Stef On Dec 22, 2010, at 8:55 PM, laurent laffont wrote: > Funny, I was thinking of writing such mail two hours ago back from work :) > > I join my thanks to you because I feel 2010 has been my most intense year of my programmer life. I've learned tremendous stuff, meet amazing people and have the chance to contribute a little with lot of help from the community. > > The Pharo community is great, warm, cool people: thanks Mariano, Marcus, Adrian, Torsten, Alexandre, Christoph, Doru, German, Eliot, Dale and all and all !! > > And a special special big big thank you to Stephane who showed me Smalltalk 2 years ago at RMLL in a lost place in France. I remember he told me something like "We've just started a cool thing called Pharo, stay tuned". Now I teach Pharo at University :) > > Can't wait for an amazing 2011 ! > > Laurent Laffont > > Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ > Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ > > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> wrote: > Since about the middle of 2010 I have been actively following Pharo and it has been an amazing time. > > These are my highlights, there are probably many others. > > 0.x became 1.0, then came 1.1 and finally 1.1.1. There has been amazing activity on 1.2. > > Seaside became 3.0. > > I learned how to deploy Seaside and manage it in production. > > I learned how to work efficiently with Monticello and SqueakSource. > > Hudson integration servers were customized and deployed for various Smalltalk projects and for Pharo itself. > > I learned how to build my own development and deployment images. > > I learned how to do load balancing and static content serving for Seaside. > > I love the Glamorous theme and the improved DejaVuBitmapFonts loader, I like the the Pro theme. > > I am successfully using Glorp and PostresV2. > > I am using the Cog VM every day. > > I simply love developing in Pharo. > > The Pharo community is just as great, from the leadership to the core developers, the dev image developers, the application and framework developers, those doing documentation, screencasts, help systems, the testers, to the countless people answering questions on this list. > > Thank you all ! > > Sven > > PS: I can't wait for 2011. > > PPS: Of course, part of the above are results of the greater Smalltalk community. Pharo is my view into this world. > > >

Dec. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] PNGReadWriter2Plugin

by Denis Kudriashov

http://www.squeaksource.com/PNGReadWriter2.html I found old email about this (2006 year). And author wrote that he build windows version but without links. 2010/12/22 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> > On 22 December 2010 20:45, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello > > > > Is somebody have built windows PNGReadWriter2Plugin dll? > > Can you share it? > > Err.. i can't find it. where you seen it? > > > > > Best regards, > > Denis > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > >

Dec. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] PNGReadWriter2Plugin

by Igor Stasenko

On 22 December 2010 20:45, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello > > Is somebody have built windows PNGReadWriter2Plugin dll? > Can you share it? Err.. i can't find it. where you seen it? > > Best regards, > Denis > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Dec. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] accessors vs direct access in Cog

by Steve Wart

Is this the old chestnut about direct access versus accessors from a software engineering standpoint or is it a purely technical discussion? If it's the first, I kind of agree with Igor that *always* using selectors isn't great in Smalltalk, because accessors vs. ivars is the only mechanism we have to decide whether something is private or public. As soon as you make an API public, then you get all kinds of assumptions to fight with the next time you want to change it. If it's the second discussion, please accept my apologies for the interruption :-) Have a good Christmas, Steve On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> Hi guys >>> >>> Ideally I would love to be able to use accessors as the abstraction layer that they can bring us: >>> I mean the fact that we could avoid to have offset based bytecode means that we could reuse a lot more >>> the methods (in special case - mixins and others). >> >> It's simply a bad idea. > > Be scientific, bring real arguments on the table else this is not fun and I can just not reply to your email or have other preconceived statements. >

Dec. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo 2010 - Thank you!

by laurent laffont

Funny, I was thinking of writing such mail two hours ago back from work :) I join my thanks to you because I feel 2010 has been my most intense year of my programmer life. I've learned tremendous stuff, meet amazing people and have the chance to contribute a little with lot of help from the community. The Pharo community is great, warm, cool people: thanks Mariano, Marcus, Adrian, Torsten, Alexandre, Christoph, Doru, German, Eliot, Dale and all and all !! And a special special big big thank you to Stephane who showed me Smalltalk 2 years ago at RMLL in a lost place in France. I remember he told me something like "We've just started a cool thing called Pharo, stay tuned". Now I teach Pharo at University :) Can't wait for an amazing 2011 ! Laurent Laffont Pharo Smalltalk Screencasts: http://www.pharocasts.com/ Blog: http://magaloma.blogspot.com/ <http://magaloma.blogspot.com/> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > Since about the middle of 2010 I have been actively following Pharo and it > has been an amazing time. > > These are my highlights, there are probably many others. > > 0.x became 1.0, then came 1.1 and finally 1.1.1. There has been amazing > activity on 1.2. > > Seaside became 3.0. > > I learned how to deploy Seaside and manage it in production. > > I learned how to work efficiently with Monticello and SqueakSource. > > Hudson integration servers were customized and deployed for various > Smalltalk projects and for Pharo itself. > > I learned how to build my own development and deployment images. > > I learned how to do load balancing and static content serving for Seaside. > > I love the Glamorous theme and the improved DejaVuBitmapFonts loader, I > like the the Pro theme. > > I am successfully using Glorp and PostresV2. > > I am using the Cog VM every day. > > I simply love developing in Pharo. > > The Pharo community is just as great, from the leadership to the core > developers, the dev image developers, the application and framework > developers, those doing documentation, screencasts, help systems, the > testers, to the countless people answering questions on this list. > > Thank you all ! > > Sven > > PS: I can't wait for 2011. > > PPS: Of course, part of the above are results of the greater Smalltalk > community. Pharo is my view into this world. > > >

Dec. 22, 2010