December 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo list of ongoing or soon starting projects needing some help

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Very interesting! > > 2010/12/4 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br>: >> +1. >> >> Perhaps a link to the page/document elaborating the theme For some theme we wrote 10 pages paper (like the Ring model). For others I do not have the time currently to write that. I will try to write once sentence for each now.

Dec. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo list of ongoing or soon starting projects needing some help

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 5, 2010, at 4:06 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > One item on the list that is missing, in my opinion, is a "Package management system". With Metacello we have the underlying infrastructure but what we lack is a process, the supporting tools, and building of a community around contributing and managing external packages. Today it's hard to find whether somebody already did what one needs, and its hard to install others work because dependencies and general information about a package is missing. Yes now I'm waiting to see Metacello 1.0 out so that we can fill the corresponding repositories with adequate configuration. I think that it will be already a good step and will have a structuring impact > > Adrian > > BTW, for an example of a simple catalogue see http://pypi.python.org/pypi and this page for a package description: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mcs/0.3.3 > > > On Dec 4, 2010, at 16:06 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> Here is a list of important projects for the future and you can help us making the infrastructure of Pharo really better. >> The idea is also to give you a better view of the work we want to structure. >> We can use this list to discuss during the IRC meeting. >> let me know what you think >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Projects >> >> Stef > >

Dec. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Dollars to documentation

by laurent laffont

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On Dec 5, 2010, at 10:59 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > > Indeed Flattr is an easy way to donate. > > I've seen http://pharobyexample.org/ has a Flattr button. Can you tell how > much it generates per month ? > > For pharocasts actually I've lost 8 euro :) > > > With the 2 EUR forced spending per month.. maybe 20 EUR proceeds in half a > year. > 5 good beers, cool ! :) Laurent > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > >

Dec. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Parsing and navigating Html

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 5, 2010, at 12:13 PM, Johan Brichau wrote: > SeasideTesting uses the XMLParser for parsing html files and has support for querying them. > It's not complete but, for example, covers quite a lot of cases needed in testing, obviously good to know. Now I tried to parse some pages with XMLParser before trying HTMLParser and it did not succeed. Stef > > On 04 Dec 2010, at 22:15, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > >> >> I recently got the following very detailed response on the Squeak list - >> http://forum.world.st/HTML-parser-again-again-td3018595.html >> >> In addition to what's discussed there, I've been successfully using >> PetitParser with/in lieu of HTML parsers for partial parsing. >> >> Cheers, >> Sean >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Parsing-and-navigating-Html-tp3072743p3072777.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >

Dec. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Parsing and navigating Html

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

no just some applications I do not control. :) On Dec 5, 2010, at 3:21 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Stef, > > Are the html pages produced under your control? I ask because a lot of html on the net is potentially mal-formed, which is reportedly a big source of trouble for creators of web browsers. > > Bill > > > ________________________________________ > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse [stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr] > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 3:48 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development > Subject: [Pharo-project] Parsing and navigating Html > > Hi > > I would like extract partial information from HTML pages. > So I started to play and fix HTMLParser. > > Now does anybody know alternatives? > > Second, does anybody develop a lib to query HTML structure as with the XMLSupport package? > > Stef >

Dec. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Parsing and navigating Html

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks. - I looked at HtmlParser (I would like to have a visitor so that all the morphic code for the rendering is removed from the node. - I was planning to look at CSS/parser validator. - I will look at SOUP and webrobots thanks for the pointers. Stef On Dec 4, 2010, at 10:15 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > > I recently got the following very detailed response on the Squeak list - > http://forum.world.st/HTML-parser-again-again-td3018595.html > > In addition to what's discussed there, I've been successfully using > PetitParser with/in lieu of HTML parsers for partial parsing. > > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Parsing-and-navigating-Html-tp3072743p3072777.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Dec. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo list of ongoing or soon starting projects needing some help

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

:) > Haha, that's a good name :-) Yes I thought that like that we do not have to say the small but not so small kernel :)

Dec. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo list of ongoing or soon starting projects needing some help

by Adrian Lienhard

One item on the list that is missing, in my opinion, is a "Package management system". With Metacello we have the underlying infrastructure but what we lack is a process, the supporting tools, and building of a community around contributing and managing external packages. Today it's hard to find whether somebody already did what one needs, and its hard to install others work because dependencies and general information about a package is missing. Adrian BTW, for an example of a simple catalogue see http://pypi.python.org/pypi and this page for a package description: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/mcs/0.3.3 On Dec 4, 2010, at 16:06 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > Here is a list of important projects for the future and you can help us making the infrastructure of Pharo really better. > The idea is also to give you a better view of the work we want to structure. > We can use this list to discuss during the IRC meeting. > let me know what you think > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Projects > > Stef

Dec. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Global shortcut keys in Pharo

by Sean P. DeNigris

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > I remember... Sean working on KeyMapping, KeyBindings or > something like that. > Yes, I ported KeyMapping to Pharo because it seemed like the model people liked best. IIRC KeyBindings probably wouldn't be too hard to port. Both are on SqueakSource, but if I didn't have write access, check my SqS projects page for updated versions. Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Global-shortcut-keys-in-Pharo-tp3072091p3073313.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 5, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Global shortcut keys in Pharo

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, Yes, AFAIK, Guille is working in something like that :) Cheers, Esteban El 05/12/2010, a las 10:41a.m., Mariano Martinez Peck escribiÃ³: > Hi Tony. Yes, I agree with you. There have been several works arround this. I remember Guillermo Polito or Sean working on KeyMapping, KeyBindings or something like that. > > Check in the archive...there are hundreds of emailsa about that: > > http://forum.world.st/Keyboard-Shortcuts-Keymapping-now-loads-in-Pharo-core… > > cheers > > mariano > > On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:19 AM, Tony Fleig <tony.fleig(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I find myself wanting global keyboard shortcuts for such things as > invoking an external browser, switching focus between windows, opening > new tool windows, executing various World menu options, executing my > own scripts, etc. > > After working for years in corporations doing Windows-based > development in Microsoft Visual Studio, I find the necessity of > constantly reaching for the mouse in Pharo to be cumbersome and > unproductive. > > I was able to add some shortcut keys to invoke commands that I > prepared by sending messages like this: > > World respondToCommand: $l bySending: #startExternalWebBrowser to: > TFCommands. > > However, this only works when no window has the keyboard focus. > > I followed the keystroke handling path in the debugger and I think I > can probably find a place to hook in some special handling for my > globally-accessible keystrokes. > > My questions are: > > 1. Has somebody already done this? > > 2. Is there a "standard" or "best practice" way of accomplishing this? > > Regards, > TF > >

Dec. 5, 2010