November 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Image size

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:49 AM, Facundo Vozzi <facundov79(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Hernan, > I did ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease on my fat image and It's 31 MB > again. There is black magic in cleanUpForRelease :-P. > Yes check it's implementation. I think the biggest black magic is the MC history. BTW, maybe we should add Transcript log to show each statement the amount of memory that is released? or something like that.... cheers mariano > > Thanks, > Facu > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < > hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Facundo, >> >> Which Pharo version are you using? >> >> Try, >> >> ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease. >> >> I'm working with Seaside, Magma, XML, WebClient, VMMaker, OB, Glamour, >> Mondrian, etc. plus my own projects and image size is 30Mb >> Cheers, >> >> 2010/11/16 Facundo Vozzi <facundov79(a)gmail.com>: >> > Hi, >> > I have one of my development pharo image with 103 MB of size. Is there >> an >> > normal image size on Pharo? I clean my system orphan instances and >> > WARegistry clearAllHandlers but it continue with that size. >> > There is on Pharo any tool like to Space Breakdown Chris Upal Dolphin >> > Package (http://metagnostic.dolphinmap.net/SpaceBreakdown.html)? >> > Thanks you, >> > Facundo >> >> >> >> -- >> HernÃ¡n Morales >> Information Technology Manager, >> Institute of Veterinary Genetics. >> National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). >> La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. >> Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. >> Internal: 422 >> Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. >> >> >

Nov. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess

by Facundo Vozzi

Dave, I loaded this two packages perfectly but their tests still are red (28 passes, 14 failures and 150 errors) on Cog and 4.0.2 windows VM in lastest Pharo 1.1.1 image. Then I'll test it on squeak. Thanks you again, Facu On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:38 AM, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com>wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:48:41AM -0300, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > > What is the OSProcess lastest version? > > The latest version is OSProcess 4.3.16, which is on SqueakSource at > http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess/OSProcess-dtl.57.mcz > > And the tests are at > http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess/Tests-OSProcess-dtl.21.mcz > > Note, the SqueakSource OSProcess project also contains the OSProcess > package broken out into sub-packages. In hindsight I think this was > a mistake (it's just more confusing now). So the best thing is to > load the two packages "OSProcess" and "Tests-OSProcess". > > Dave > > > > > Yes, I'm using cog so I think that is my problem. I'll test with the > > standard VM. > > > > Thanks, > > Facu > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:25 AM, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:22:43AM -0300, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I loaded OSProcess 4.3.11 on Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.image but its > tests > > > are > > > > almost all red. > > > > > > > > Do you know if 4.3.11 if the right version for Pharo 1.1.1? > > > > > > > > Thanks you, > > > > Facundo > > > > > > In general, it is best to use the latest version of OSProcess, although > > > the older version 4.3.11 should still work fine. > > > > > > The Cog VM and the OSProcessAccessor plugin have some > incompatibilities. > > > The #forkSqueak methods will not work, and these are used throughout > > > the OSProcess tests. > > > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > > > >

Nov. 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN 1.2] pre-built #12241

by Marcus Denker

https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/27956/PharoCore-1.2-12241.zip -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Nov. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess

by David T. Lewis

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:48:41AM -0300, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > What is the OSProcess lastest version? The latest version is OSProcess 4.3.16, which is on SqueakSource at http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess/OSProcess-dtl.57.mcz And the tests are at http://www.squeaksource.com/OSProcess/Tests-OSProcess-dtl.21.mcz Note, the SqueakSource OSProcess project also contains the OSProcess package broken out into sub-packages. In hindsight I think this was a mistake (it's just more confusing now). So the best thing is to load the two packages "OSProcess" and "Tests-OSProcess". Dave > > Yes, I'm using cog so I think that is my problem. I'll test with the > standard VM. > > Thanks, > Facu > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:25 AM, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:22:43AM -0300, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > > > Hi, > > > I loaded OSProcess 4.3.11 on Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.image but its tests > > are > > > almost all red. > > > > > > Do you know if 4.3.11 if the right version for Pharo 1.1.1? > > > > > > Thanks you, > > > Facundo > > > > In general, it is best to use the latest version of OSProcess, although > > the older version 4.3.11 should still work fine. > > > > The Cog VM and the OSProcessAccessor plugin have some incompatibilities. > > The #forkSqueak methods will not work, and these are used throughout > > the OSProcess tests. > > > > Dave > > > > > >

Nov. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess

by Facundo Vozzi

What is the OSProcess lastest version? Yes, I'm using cog so I think that is my problem. I'll test with the standard VM. Thanks, Facu On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:25 AM, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:22:43AM -0300, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > > Hi, > > I loaded OSProcess 4.3.11 on Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.image but its tests > are > > almost all red. > > > > Do you know if 4.3.11 if the right version for Pharo 1.1.1? > > > > Thanks you, > > Facundo > > In general, it is best to use the latest version of OSProcess, although > the older version 4.3.11 should still work fine. > > The Cog VM and the OSProcessAccessor plugin have some incompatibilities. > The #forkSqueak methods will not work, and these are used throughout > the OSProcess tests. > > Dave > > >

Nov. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] OSProcess

by David T. Lewis

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:22:43AM -0300, Facundo Vozzi wrote: > Hi, > I loaded OSProcess 4.3.11 on Pharo-1.1.1-dev10.09.1.image but its tests are > almost all red. > > Do you know if 4.3.11 if the right version for Pharo 1.1.1? > > Thanks you, > Facundo In general, it is best to use the latest version of OSProcess, although the older version 4.3.11 should still work fine. The Cog VM and the OSProcessAccessor plugin have some incompatibilities. The #forkSqueak methods will not work, and these are used throughout the OSProcess tests. Dave

Nov. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Image size

by Facundo Vozzi

Hi Hernan, I did ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease on my fat image and It's 31 MB again. There is black magic in cleanUpForRelease :-P. Thanks, Facu On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 1:47 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Facundo, > > Which Pharo version are you using? > > Try, > > ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease. > > I'm working with Seaside, Magma, XML, WebClient, VMMaker, OB, Glamour, > Mondrian, etc. plus my own projects and image size is 30Mb > Cheers, > > 2010/11/16 Facundo Vozzi <facundov79(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi, > > I have one of my development pharo image with 103 MB of size. Is there an > > normal image size on Pharo? I clean my system orphan instances and > > WARegistry clearAllHandlers but it continue with that size. > > There is on Pharo any tool like to Space Breakdown Chris Upal Dolphin > > Package (http://metagnostic.dolphinmap.net/SpaceBreakdown.html)? > > Thanks you, > > Facundo > > > > -- > HernÃ¡n Morales > Information Technology Manager, > Institute of Veterinary Genetics. > National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). > La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. > Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. > Internal: 422 > Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. > >

Nov. 16, 2010

[Pharo-project] Should blocks passed into Metacello methods like #for:do: return spec?

by jaayer

Concerning Metacello's block-accepting methods, should the blocks passed in always return spec? I ask because some sends in the image pass in blocks where the last message sent is yourself to "spec", making that the return value of the block, while other blocks just fall off at the end without explicitly returning spec. Is there a reason why one should be preferred over the other?

Nov. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3252 in pharo: [Repackage] "Announcements" should be well structured

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Fixed Comment #5 on issue 3252 by stephane.ducasse: [Repackage] "Announcements" should be well structured http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3252 Thanks I will do that.

Nov. 16, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3252 in pharo: [Repackage] "Announcements" should be well structured

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Comment #4 on issue 3252 by Torsten....(a)astares.de: [Repackage] "Announcements" should be well structured http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3252 We should run Smalltalk organization sortCategories. to display class categories alphabetically again. There is now also an empty category "Tests-Announcements" left which we should clean: Smalltalk organization removeSystemCategory: 'Tests-Announcements'. Smalltalk organization sortCategories.

Nov. 16, 2010