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Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3279 in pharo: FindReplace badly set keyboard focus to TextMorph

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Updates: Status: Fixed Comment #1 on issue 3279 by aplantec: FindReplace badly set keyboard focus to TextMorph http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3279 SLICE-Issue-3279-FindReplaceBadlySetKeyboardFocusToTextMorph

Nov. 22, 2010

[Pharo-project] Issue 3279 in pharo: FindReplace badly set keyboard focus to TextMorph

by pharo＠googlecode.com

Status: Accepted Owner: aplantec Labels: Milestone-1.2 New issue 3279 by aplantec: FindReplace badly set keyboard focus to TextMorph http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3279 Sorry, my last fixe was wrong. As a consequence, when browsing all senders of a selector, the Senders browser list can't have keyboard focus. The UnfocusedSelectionColor is too light also.

Nov. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

by Adrian Lienhard

me too :) Adrian On Nov 22, 2010, at 12:05 , Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > I joined Lukas thanks... although I was not in that dinner!!! :-) > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you John for the excellent Mac VMs in the past. >> >> Thank you Esteban for the excellent Mac VMs in the future; and for the >> dinner in Palermo Hollywood last week :-) >> >> Cheers, >> Lukas >> >> On 21 November 2010 22:42, John M McIntosh >> <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote: >>> Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from >> John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which I >> accepted and have strived to carry forward. >>> >>> But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban >> Lorenzano to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him >> already from his role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at ESUG >> conferences, and the awards he has won for his technical innovations. >>> >>> It's been a fun decade & three month, lots of versions were created, >> Apple unlike other other OS providers has driven lots of change and >> excitement, now they look forward to an OS-X app store, so it's time for >> someone new and eager to figure out how to address that. Over that decade >> we've moved from 68040 based machines, thru PowerPC to MacIntel, and from >> OS-9 thru 7 generations of OS-X. >>> >>> On Jan 1st 2011 (or earlier) I will no longer do builds or officially >> support the macintosh VM, I will of course help Esteban thru any >> difficulties in the migration of responsibilities, and I'll forward that >> letter from Dan, it's steeped with responsibility, a bit of honour, >> expectations of hours (decades?) of work, and I assure Esteban a great >> journey. Today for Esteban I consolidated folders of Squeak VM build >> memories which came to nearly 6GB of stuff, fortunately most of it is >> obsolete because of the Cocoa os-x V5 rewrite. >>> >>> I thank the community for bearing with me for the good times and the >> rough times as I fought the daemons of operating system change, no doubt >> I'll watch how things progress, yet the responsibility for what happens will >> lie elsewhere. >>> >>> Some close friends have asked am I giving up Squeak & Smalltalk? No it's >> just a change of pace, I'll be around to poke at interesting issues, and at >> this time I welcome any paid consulting (Smalltalk or iOS), email me if you >> have leads... >>> >>> Over the years, Viewpoints Research Institute, ESUG and others have >> provide some funding for this work, I thank them for their contributions. >>> >>> Any message of thanks should be send to my wife of 27 years >> cordelia(a)mac.com who has diligently support my contributions to the >> Smalltalk community and as a non computer person always wondered why? For >> Sophie we had a saying: "For the betterment of mankind" . For the folks who >> worked on Smalltalk, Sophie, and the OLPC they know why we do this. >>> >>> To the other VM maintainers I thank them for them for the trust that I >> would do the right thing, so for Squeak onward we go.... >>> >>> - >>> >> =========================================================================== >>> John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: >> squeaker68882 >>> Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com >>> >> =========================================================================== >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> > > > -- > *HernÃ¡n Wilkinson > Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching > Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 > email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com > site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/>*

Nov. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FileDirectory default is wrong in MacOS

by Henrik Johansen

On Nov 22, 2010, at 12:58 08PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> H Bill. The file system (as much as I can notice) seems to be Mac OS Extended (Journaled). I am a completly mac newbie...so... >>> >>> Eliot: WOW! I didn't know that you can choose....I am googling now how to change to case sensitive (I hope I don't need to reformat). >> >> you have but don't do that you may get a lot of trouble. >> Imagine you send me two files which are case sensitive and my system may blow up or I lose something and I send it back to you >> fucked up. >> >> So if you are ready to not interact with other people change else keep it the way it is. >> >> I got problem because damien in the past changed it and interacted with me. >> >> Ok, thanks for the advice. But still, the problem with Pharo is present. >> >> My OS is case insensitive, but FileDirectory default is working like case sensittive..... > > > This means that the VM should give a way to know if the filesystem is key sensitive > without that we can only guess or we could have a test saving a file and checking. > > As a (fragile) hack, you could use isAFileNamed: with a known existing filename on the platform containing uppercase characters i.e. the platform function called in FilePlugin>primitiveFileOpen (at least on Mac) respects the case-sensitivity setting. Problem is when new version come out where the file is moved/removed, you're in trouble :) Cheers, Henry

Nov. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Cannot upgrade my pharo-core 1.2 'tracking' image to #12234

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi Alain, I actually did try that before, but apparantly some dependents on the Transcript remained active. I eventually got it working now, thank a lot. Sven On 21 Nov 2010, at 22:22, Alain Plantec wrote: > Hi Sven, > It is probably because of some changes I've made in TextEditor. > Close all your window and then try again to update. > Cheers > Alain > > > Le 21/11/2010 16:13, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >> This is probably not very important, but I cannot upgrade my pharo-core 1.2 'tracking' image to #12234. >> This image started a long time ago as #12123. >> >> THERE_BE_DRAGONS_HERE >> MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "characterBlockForIndex:" is nil >> 21 November 2010 4:03:32 pm >> >> VM: Mac OS - intel - 1065 - Croquet Closure Cog VM [CoInterpreter VMMaker-oscog.35] 30.0 >> Image: Pharo1.2a [Latest update: #12242] >> >> SecurityManager state: >> Restricted: false >> FileAccess: true >> SocketAccess: true >> Working Dir /Users/sven/apps/Smalltalk/Pharo/Pharo-1.2 >> Trusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus/ >> Untrusted Dir /foobar/tooBar/forSqueak/bogus/ >> >> UndefinedObject(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #characterBlockForIndex: >> Receiver: nil >> Arguments and temporary variables: >> aMessage: characterBlockForIndex: 17441 >> exception: MessageNotUnderstood: receiver of "characterBlockForIndex:" is nil >> resumeValue: nil >> Receiver's instance variables: >> nil >> >> SmalltalkEditor(TextEditor)>>markIndex: >> Receiver: a SmalltalkEditor >> Arguments and temporary variables: >> >> Anybody else seen this ? >> I guess I will have to start over now ? >> >> Sven >> >> >> >> > >

Nov. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] FileDirectory default is wrong in MacOS

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > > H Bill. The file system (as much as I can notice) seems to be Mac OS Extended (Journaled). I am a completly mac newbie...so... > > > > Eliot: WOW! I didn't know that you can choose....I am googling now how to change to case sensitive (I hope I don't need to reformat). > > you have but don't do that you may get a lot of trouble. > Imagine you send me two files which are case sensitive and my system may blow up or I lose something and I send it back to you > fucked up. > > So if you are ready to not interact with other people change else keep it the way it is. > > I got problem because damien in the past changed it and interacted with me. > > Ok, thanks for the advice. But still, the problem with Pharo is present. > > My OS is case insensitive, but FileDirectory default is working like case sensittive..... This means that the VM should give a way to know if the filesystem is key sensitive without that we can only guess or we could have a test saving a file and checking.

Nov. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3266 in pharo: Clean TextEditor

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> >>>> ...k that we can build something on simpleMorphic, >>> Why? That would be a huge disappointment. >>> >> >> so it means that we should - throw/redo polymorph extensions (because even if some code of polymorph sucks because gary did it to turn around morphic this is still the best look we have) >> > > Yes. This is a good opportunity to make it better. this is not that I'm against but **my** plate is more than full. >> - clean again all the preferences >> > > Yes. Maybe a 3 hour job. May be. >> - clean again all the MVC dependencies.... >> FillInTheBlank? PopUpMenu? > SimpleMorphic doesn't include any MVC bits or dependency. > >> Since I do not have the know-how this is why I wrote the next paragraph: >> > > Well, that doesn't stop Mariano from fighting the deepest internals of the VM... Developing any needed know-how in the Pharo community will ensure that Pharo will survive any technical difficulties that might arise in any part of the system. yes this is the idea. And we should do it but again my plate is full. > >>>> what we can do is look at the kernel and see how the changes can be applied to Morphic. But may be I'm wrong. >>>> Tell me what you think. >>>> What is clear is that I would like to have the Sophie evtn hierarchy because we will start cleaning event soon internally. >>>> Stef > > Cheers, > Juan Vuletich >

Nov. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] New macintosh vm builder & maintainer: Esteban Lorenzano

by Hernan Wilkinson

I joined Lukas thanks... although I was not in that dinner!!! :-) On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you John for the excellent Mac VMs in the past. > > Thank you Esteban for the excellent Mac VMs in the future; and for the > dinner in Palermo Hollywood last week :-) > > Cheers, > Lukas > > On 21 November 2010 22:42, John M McIntosh > <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote: > > Ten years back I took over the role of maintaining the Macintosh VM from > John Maloney. Dan Ingalls wrote a letter of responsibility for me, which I > accepted and have strived to carry forward. > > > > But it's time to assume a different role and I have asked Esteban > Lorenzano to take over the build responsibility. Some of you know him > already from his role in building Mars for Squeak, his presentations at ESUG > conferences, and the awards he has won for his technical innovations. > > > > It's been a fun decade & three month, lots of versions were created, > Apple unlike other other OS providers has driven lots of change and > excitement, now they look forward to an OS-X app store, so it's time for > someone new and eager to figure out how to address that. Over that decade > we've moved from 68040 based machines, thru PowerPC to MacIntel, and from > OS-9 thru 7 generations of OS-X. > > > > On Jan 1st 2011 (or earlier) I will no longer do builds or officially > support the macintosh VM, I will of course help Esteban thru any > difficulties in the migration of responsibilities, and I'll forward that > letter from Dan, it's steeped with responsibility, a bit of honour, > expectations of hours (decades?) of work, and I assure Esteban a great > journey. Today for Esteban I consolidated folders of Squeak VM build > memories which came to nearly 6GB of stuff, fortunately most of it is > obsolete because of the Cocoa os-x V5 rewrite. > > > > I thank the community for bearing with me for the good times and the > rough times as I fought the daemons of operating system change, no doubt > I'll watch how things progress, yet the responsibility for what happens will > lie elsewhere. > > > > Some close friends have asked am I giving up Squeak & Smalltalk? No it's > just a change of pace, I'll be around to poke at interesting issues, and at > this time I welcome any paid consulting (Smalltalk or iOS), email me if you > have leads... > > > > Over the years, Viewpoints Research Institute, ESUG and others have > provide some funding for this work, I thank them for their contributions. > > > > Any message of thanks should be send to my wife of 27 years > cordelia(a)mac.com who has diligently support my contributions to the > Smalltalk community and as a non computer person always wondered why? For > Sophie we had a saying: "For the betterment of mankind" . For the folks who > worked on Smalltalk, Sophie, and the OLPC they know why we do this. > > > > To the other VM maintainers I thank them for them for the trust that I > would do the right thing, so for Squeak onward we go.... > > > > - > > > =========================================================================== > > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: > squeaker68882 > > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > > > =========================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > -- *HernÃ¡n Wilkinson Agile Software Development, Teaching & Coaching Mobile: +54 - 911 - 4470 - 7207 email: hernan.wilkinson(a)10Pines.com site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/>*

Nov. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Issue 3266 in pharo: Clean TextEditor

by Juan Vuletich

Hi Stef, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> ... >>> k that we can build something on simpleMorphic, >>> >> Why? That would be a huge disappointment. >> > > so it means that we should > - throw/redo polymorph extensions (because even if some code of polymorph sucks because gary did it to turn around > morphic this is still the best look we have) > Yes. This is a good opportunity to make it better. > - clean again all the preferences > Yes. Maybe a 3 hour job. > - clean again all the MVC dependencies.... > SimpleMorphic doesn't include any MVC bits or dependency. > Since I do not have the know-how this is why I wrote the next paragraph: > Well, that doesn't stop Mariano from fighting the deepest internals of the VM... Developing any needed know-how in the Pharo community will ensure that Pharo will survive any technical difficulties that might arise in any part of the system. >>> what we can do is look at the kernel and see how the changes can be applied to Morphic. But may be I'm wrong. >>> Tell me what you think. >>> What is clear is that I would like to have the Sophie evtn hierarchy because we will start cleaning event soon internally. >>> Stef Cheers, Juan Vuletich

Nov. 22, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] New to PHP 5.4: Traits

by Marcus Denker

On Nov 21, 2010, at 10:53 PM, jaayer wrote: >> > > No, there isn't, at least not compared with the rate of Smalltalk's adoption of Traits. Face it. There are just too many Smalltalkers who seem to think the language is a complete revelation that no mortal has the right to amend. Other languages can grow to accommodate new features; Smalltalk, which went through a number major revisions in the 70s at PARC, remains frozen in the amber of 1980. I think there are two forces at work: 1) Those that block any change because Smalltalk is not supposed to be changed by mortals. 2) Those that want to go "beyond Smalltalk". But it has to be perfect! So better do nothing. (Aka: The Squeak Desease). This is the far greater problem. Point 2 actually has fractal properties. You can see it at all scales. From the small. (Why fix a typo when you want to do something oh-so-great!) up to the big picture. The old man story. One can not quote this too often: "One of the sad memories of my life is a visit to the celebrated mathematician and inventor, Mr Babbage. He was far advanced in age, but his mind was still as vigorous as ever. He took me through his work-rooms. In the first room I saw parts of the original Calculating Machine, which had been shown in an incomplete state many years before and had even been put to some use. I asked him about its present form. 'I have not finished it because in working at it I came on the idea of my Analytical Machine, which would do all that it was capable of doing and much more. Indeed, the idea was so much simpler that it would have taken more work to complete the Calculating Machine than to design and construct the other in its entirety, so I turned my attention to the Analytical Machine.'" "After a few minutes' talk, we went into the next work-room, where he showed and explained to me the working of the elements of the Analytical Machine. I asked if I could see it. 'I have never completed it,' he said, 'because I hit upon an idea of doing the same thing by a different and far more effective method, and this rendered it useless to proceed on the old lines.' Then we went into the third room. There lay scattered bits of mechanism, but I saw no trace of any working machine. Very cautiously I approached the subject, and received the dreaded answer, 'It is not constructed yet, but I am working on it, and it will take less time to construct it altogether than it would have token to complete the Analytical Machine from the stage in which I left it.' I took leave of the old man with a heavy heart." -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Nov. 22, 2010