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[Pharo-project] Shrinking image much more slow in Windows than MACOSX

by nullPointer

IÂ´m developing a wizard for prepare a deploy in Pharo. IÂ´m using predefined routines of system like Scriptloader>>cleanUpForproduction SmalltalkImage>>cleanUp: false SmalltalkImage>>disableProgrammerFacilities or manual delete from system packages too. I can delete many MB from image with that mechanism, but the problem is when that routines is much much more slow on Windows than MACOSX. Is possible do something in Windows for enhance? the difference is huge... Regards. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Shrinking-image-much-more-slow-in-Windows-than-MACOSX… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk Labs Browser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I mean not having refactoring phases after expansion phase during 10 years is not good. You get a system that shows its ages while it could be really sexy. Stef On Nov 3, 2010, at 10:36 AM, Geert Claes wrote: > > > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Yes >> >> But Smalltalker looks for it when you see the state of morphic >> > > What did you mean? > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-Labs-Browser-tp3022069p3025055.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Nov. 3, 2010

[Pharo-project] Postdoctorate positions available

by Serge Stinckwich

Hi guys, i've got some ANR (french research agency) funding for a postdoctorate position (18 months) to work on domain-specific languages and tools for mobile robotics systems in the context of the PROTEUS (Platform for RObotic models Transformations and Exchange between Users and Scientific communities) project. Applicants should have a PhD in one of the following disciplines: software engineering or robotics. Very good programming skills are required. My research team also got recently some funding (less funded than the previous one) for 2 postdoctorate positions (10 months) but could not find anyone at the moment ... The original description of these positions are available here: http://www.ifi.auf.org/site/content/view/239/85/ but now we are no more focusing on these subjects. I'm looking for people that are interested to work on domain-specific languages for robotics and/or applications of robotics/wireless sensors networks for environmental surveillance and disaster management. The location for all these positions is Ha Noi, Vietnam in the UMMISCO research team. UMMISCO is an international joint research unit between severals research team including IRD (Institut de Recherche pour le DÃ©veloppement) and the University of Paris 6. Interested candidates should submit ASAP a Curriculum Vitae, a summary of the research background and interests by e-mail to me (Serge.Stinckwich(a)gmail.com) English writing fluency is a must. English speaking fluency is necessary, especially if the applicant does not speak French. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

Nov. 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk Labs Browser

by Pavel Krivanek

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:19 AM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Very nice video. >> >> Also note that there is a complete AJAX based OmniBrowser view for the >> web (OB-Web), that brings the complete OB toolset including all >> refactoring tools to the web for over 4 years now. No web-based >> development UI really took off in the past decade, so I wonder if this >> is really what people need? > > May be not a full featured IDE. But I used a web code browser for Seaslides > (seeÂ http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uZxVgeeGwSOMW86-QeHbSQ?feat=directlink > ) which is basically aÂ WABrowser subclass + Bespin (nowÂ Skywriter) so it has > at least one usage :). > I've just discoveredÂ http://www.ymacs.org/ (demoÂ http://www.ymacs.org/demo/ > ) and it seems a web browser can be a good candidate as a portable IDE. > It may be easier today to experiment with GUI in a Web Browser than in > Morphic. > Laurent Laffont SeasideXUL (http://code.google.com/p/seasidexul/) is a kind of web GUI too. Shame on me that I'm not able to move this project on now :-) This projects show us that more attention should be paid to OmniBrowser because it is a good framework that enables to build full IDE on various GUI technologies. -- Pavel >> Also I am not sure how well the traditional Smalltalk browsers convert >> to the web? Clamento takes a different approach, see >> <http://clamato.net/>. >> >> Lukas >> >> On 1 November 2010 13:32, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Just stumbled on this very interesting seaside-based browser via James's >> > blog: http://code.google.com/p/smalltalklabsbrowser >> > >> > -- >> > View this message in context: >> > http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-Labs-Browser-tp3022069p3022069.html >> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> > >

Nov. 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk Labs Browser

by Geert Claes

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > Yes > > But Smalltalker looks for it when you see the state of morphic > What did you mean? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-Labs-Browser-tp3022069p3025055.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk Labs Browser

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Nov 3, 2010, at 9:20 AM, laurent laffont wrote: > On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Very nice video. > > Also note that there is a complete AJAX based OmniBrowser view for the > web (OB-Web), that brings the complete OB toolset including all > refactoring tools to the web for over 4 years now. No web-based > development UI really took off in the past decade, so I wonder if this > is really what people need? > > May be not a full featured IDE. But I used a web code browser for Seaslides (see http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uZxVgeeGwSOMW86-QeHbSQ?feat=directlink ) which is basically a WABrowser subclass + Bespin (now Skywriter) so it has at least one usage :). > > I've just discovered http://www.ymacs.org/ (demo http://www.ymacs.org/demo/ ) and it seems a web browser can be a good candidate as a portable IDE. > > It may be easier today to experiment with GUI in a Web Browser than in Morphic. Yes But Smalltalker looks for it when you see the state of morphic Stef

Nov. 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] RoarVM - Pharo and Squeak on Multicore

by Tudor Girba

Wow, indeed! Doru On 3 Nov 2010, at 09:28, Lukas Renggli wrote: > Wow, exciting times! > > On 3 November 2010 09:10, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> Read more: >> >> http://astares.blogspot.com/2010/11/roarvm-pharo-and-squeak-on-multicore.ht… >> -- >> GRATIS! Movie-FLAT mit Ã¼ber 300 Videos. >> Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Some battles are better lost than fought."

Nov. 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] RoarVM - Pharo and Squeak on Multicore

by Lukas Renggli

Wow, exciting times! On 3 November 2010 09:10, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Read more: > > http://astares.blogspot.com/2010/11/roarvm-pharo-and-squeak-on-multicore.ht… > -- > GRATIS! Movie-FLAT mit Ã¼ber 300 Videos. > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Nov. 3, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Smalltalk Labs Browser

by laurent laffont

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Very nice video. > > Also note that there is a complete AJAX based OmniBrowser view for the > web (OB-Web), that brings the complete OB toolset including all > refactoring tools to the web for over 4 years now. No web-based > development UI really took off in the past decade, so I wonder if this > is really what people need? > May be not a full featured IDE. But I used a web code browser for Seaslides (see http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/uZxVgeeGwSOMW86-QeHbSQ?feat=directlink) which is basically a WABrowser subclass + Bespin (now Skywriter) so it has at least one usage :). I've just discovered http://www.ymacs.org/ (demo http://www.ymacs.org/demo/) and it seems a web browser can be a good candidate as a portable IDE. It may be easier today to experiment with GUI in a Web Browser than in Morphic. Laurent Laffont > > Also I am not sure how well the traditional Smalltalk browsers convert > to the web? Clamento takes a different approach, see > <http://clamato.net/>. > > Lukas > > On 1 November 2010 13:32, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Just stumbled on this very interesting seaside-based browser via James's > > blog: http://code.google.com/p/smalltalklabsbrowser > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-Labs-Browser-tp3022069p3022069.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > >

Nov. 3, 2010

[Pharo-project] RoarVM - Pharo and Squeak on Multicore

by Torsten Bergmann

Read more: http://astares.blogspot.com/2010/11/roarvm-pharo-and-squeak-on-multicore.ht… -- GRATIS! Movie-FLAT mit Ã¼ber 300 Videos. Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome

Nov. 3, 2010