October 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Anyone has seen Dale?

by Norbert Hartl

On 20.10.2010, at 22:35, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > hi! > > Do you know where Dale is ? In holidays or something? I sent him an email a few days ago... > As far as I know he is really busy with the gemstone 3.0 release. Norbert

Oct. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196

by Pavel Krivanek

And here is the PDF version of the first 2000 objects file:///home/krivanek/Dokumenty/pharo/12196/graphviz/1/imageGraph.pdf -- Pavel On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Lukas, > > you can try it: > http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/ImageMap.st > > the command that generates the graph is > dot -Tsvg imageGraph.dot > imageGraph.svg > > Unfortunatelly my laptop has only 2GB so I have not enough RAM to > generate the graph for whole PharoKernel image ;-) The input file for > GraphViz has 67MB ;-) > > This is the resultant graph for the first 500 objects > http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/imageGraph.svg > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Wow, this is really cool. >> >> Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz? >> >> Lukas >> >> On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the >>> image content). You can see it here: >>> >>> http://goo.gl/nY2o >>> >>> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 >>> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 >>> >>> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >

Oct. 20, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12202

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12202 ----- - Issue 3070: weird replacements in TextEditor. Thanks Alain Plantec!!!

Oct. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196

by Pavel Krivanek

Hi Lukas, you can try it: http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/ImageMap.st the command that generates the graph is dot -Tsvg imageGraph.dot > imageGraph.svg Unfortunatelly my laptop has only 2GB so I have not enough RAM to generate the graph for whole PharoKernel image ;-) The input file for GraphViz has 67MB ;-) This is the resultant graph for the first 500 objects http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/imageGraph.svg Cheers, -- Pavel On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Wow, this is really cool. > > Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz? > > Lukas > > On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the >> image content). You can see it here: >> >> http://goo.gl/nY2o >> >> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 >> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 >> >> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Oct. 20, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12201

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

12201 ----- - Issue 1800: MenuIcons and ThemeIcons should be merged. Big thanks to alain plantec!!!

Oct. 20, 2010

[Pharo-project] Anyone has seen Dale?

by Alexandre Bergel

hi! Do you know where Dale is ? In holidays or something? I sent him an email a few days ago... Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Oct. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Plug-in Licensing

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Paolo, Thanks for the reference. I will give it a good look. Bill ________________________________________ From: Paolo Bonzini [paolo.bonzini(a)gmail.com] On Behalf Of Paolo Bonzini [bonzini(a)gnu.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 2:13 PM To: Schwab,Wilhelm K Subject: Fwd: Re: Plug-in Licensing I found a reference to GPL-compatible vs. GPLv3 in the GCC mailing list from today. It is the same situation as you, with "GCC plugin" being your library and "GCC" being GSL in your case. Hope this helps a fellow Smalltalker. Paolo ------------------ Justin Seyster <jrseys(a)gmail.com> writes: > I'm getting ready to release plug-in code, and I want to have a very > clear idea about licensing before I release. I'm leaning towards > releasing everything as GPLv3, but I do want to know exactly what is > and isn't allowed. GPLv3 is fine. > I know this issue was debated quite intensely before plug-in support > got added, but my understanding is that there was a final consensus. > I can't find one document though that explains exactly what this > consensus was. The document is here: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gcc-exception.html See also the rationale and FAQ that it links to. Basically, if you use a plugin with gcc, and the plugin is not GPL-compatible, then the resulting compiled code is covered by the GPL. > I vaguely remember a proposal that there would be no restriction on > plug-in licensing but that non-free plug-ins could only be used to > compile Free software, but that's not documented anywhere I can find. That's pretty much it. > GCC itself now requires that plug-ins export a > plugin_is_gpl_compatible symbol, which implies that the plug-in's > license need only be compatible with the GPL. Is it ok to release > LGPL- or BSD-licensed plug-ins? Sure, both of those licenses are GPL-compatible. > My understanding is that, in general, only GPLv3 code can link against > GPLv3 code, which would imply that my plug-in code must be GPLv3. That is incorrect. You can link code under any GPL-compatible license with GPLv3 code, and the resulting executable will be covered the union of both licenses. Since GPLv3 tends to be stricter than any GPL-compatible license, this generally means that the result is under GPLv3. There is a (non-exhaustive) list of GPL-compatible licenses here: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLCompatibleLicenses Ian

Oct. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ^ character in ubuntu

by Diogenes Moreira

Thank you.. 2010/10/20 Roberto Sapiain <rsapiain(a)gmail.com> > Hello. > > Well, In my case I just have a simple workaround: in a terminal put the > keyboard in english (with > # setxkbmap us ; there with shift+6 you get the 'hat' ^ ; to go back to > your normal layout setxkbmap latam if its latinamerican or es if its > spanish keyboard type; once you get the character printed, do a copy & > paste, or memorize the layout of an english keyboard ;)) > > cheers, and hello to everyone in the list as well :) > > 2010/10/20 Diogenes Moreira <diogenes.moreira(a)gmail.com> > >> hi falks. >> >> I'm using Pharo 1.1 OneClick Package in Ubuntu 10.4 with the follow >> locale. >> when press ^ character in the pharo editor i get "?" symbol.. >> >> What configuration I need change? >> >> Other data, if i using the cut & paste from othe application, that work >> fine. >> >> Thank in advance. >> >> iogenes@diogenes-desktop:~$ locale >> LANG=es_AR.utf8 >> LC_CTYPE="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_NUMERIC="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_TIME="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_COLLATE="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_MONETARY="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_MESSAGES="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_PAPER="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_NAME="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_ADDRESS="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_TELEPHONE="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_MEASUREMENT="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_AR.utf8" >> LC_ALL= >> >> cat /etc/lsb-release >> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu >> DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04 >> DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid >> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS >> >> diogenes@diogenes-desktop:~$ uname -a >> Linux diogenes-desktop 2.6.32-25-generic-pae #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 17 >> 21:57:48 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > -* Amn El Ith Tir Sol - Honour *- > Roberto IvÃ¡n Sapiain Caro (RISC). > Estudiante Ing. Civil en ComputaciÃ³n. > Universidad de Chile > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Oct. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ^ character in ubuntu

by Roberto Sapiain

Hello. Well, In my case I just have a simple workaround: in a terminal put the keyboard in english (with # setxkbmap us ; there with shift+6 you get the 'hat' ^ ; to go back to your normal layout setxkbmap latam if its latinamerican or es if its spanish keyboard type; once you get the character printed, do a copy & paste, or memorize the layout of an english keyboard ;)) cheers, and hello to everyone in the list as well :) 2010/10/20 Diogenes Moreira <diogenes.moreira(a)gmail.com> > hi falks. > > I'm using Pharo 1.1 OneClick Package in Ubuntu 10.4 with the follow locale. > when press ^ character in the pharo editor i get "?" symbol.. > > What configuration I need change? > > Other data, if i using the cut & paste from othe application, that work > fine. > > Thank in advance. > > iogenes@diogenes-desktop:~$ locale > LANG=es_AR.utf8 > LC_CTYPE="es_AR.utf8" > LC_NUMERIC="es_AR.utf8" > LC_TIME="es_AR.utf8" > LC_COLLATE="es_AR.utf8" > LC_MONETARY="es_AR.utf8" > LC_MESSAGES="es_AR.utf8" > LC_PAPER="es_AR.utf8" > LC_NAME="es_AR.utf8" > LC_ADDRESS="es_AR.utf8" > LC_TELEPHONE="es_AR.utf8" > LC_MEASUREMENT="es_AR.utf8" > LC_IDENTIFICATION="es_AR.utf8" > LC_ALL= > > cat /etc/lsb-release > DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu > DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04 > DISTRIB_CODENAME=lucid > DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS > > diogenes@diogenes-desktop:~$ uname -a > Linux diogenes-desktop 2.6.32-25-generic-pae #44-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 17 > 21:57:48 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- -* Amn El Ith Tir Sol - Honour *- Roberto IvÃ¡n Sapiain Caro (RISC). Estudiante Ing. Civil en ComputaciÃ³n. Universidad de Chile

Oct. 20, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Decompiling method body returns as block?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

if you refactor the method send it to us in a bug entry :) Stef On Oct 20, 2010, at 5:49 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand wrote: > Wonderfull, thanks Lukas and Eliot! > > 2010/10/19 Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi HernÃ¡n, >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 1:37 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand >> <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi list, >>> I'm using Pharo1.1rc2 #11400 and I want to extract the body part (the >>> String without the selector) of a CompiledMethod, but I'm getting a >>> BlockNode after sending #body and a MNU afterwards. This is what I do >>> >>> aCompiledMethod decompileWithTemps ---> a BytecodeAgnosticMethodNode >>> which is displayed like: >>> >>> 'renderContentOn: aRenderer >>> aRenderer form id: ''horizontalForm''; >>> with: [aRenderer >>> fieldSet: [ ... blablabla ]]' >>> >>> and is ok. Then >>> >>> aCompiledMethod decompileWithTemps body ---> a BlockNode displayed as: >>> >>> {[:aRenderer | >>> aRenderer form id: 'horizontalForm'; >>> with: [aRenderer >>> fieldSet: [... blablabla]]]} >>> >>> I've expected the code string (sending #decompileString) without >>> "[:aRenderer |" part (used to work that way). >>> The thing is if I send #code to the BlockNode I get a >>> "MessageNotUnderstood: CascadeNode>>code". >>> I'd appreciate any hint to solve this. >> >> An alternative to Lukas' suggestion would be to refactor >> MethodNode>>printOn: into >> printOn: aStream >> self >> printSignatureOn: aStream; >> printBodyOn: aStream >> and then use aCompiledMethod decompileWithTemps printBodyOn: >> best, >> Eliot >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> >>> -- >>> HernÃ¡n Morales >>> Information Technology Manager, >>> Institute of Veterinary Genetics. >>> National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). >>> La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. >>> Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. >>> Internal: 422 >>> Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > HernÃ¡n Morales > Information Technology Manager, > Institute of Veterinary Genetics. > National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). > La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. > Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. > Internal: 422 > Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Oct. 20, 2010