October 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Looking for real-world Magma application

by Mirko Kiefer

Hi Johan, I would be very interested in your DB abstraction layer, too! It would be great if there is a way to get an early version of the code you plan to open-source? I wouldn't mind it not being entirely generic, yet. Regards, Mirko On 10/21/10 9:26 AM, Johan Brichau wrote: > Hi Igor, > > I guess that you are referring to us ;-) > > We indeed switched from Magma to GOODS and now to Gemstone, mainly because of performance issues. > To remain db-independent, we have created a database abstraction layer that can be used with any of the aforementioned databases. We are currently preparing to open-source the generic part and we can send you our specific Magma specialization with representative queries made by our application. > > We should be able to get that to you asap! > > Johan > > On 21 Oct 2010, at 08:33, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> Hello all, >> sorry for cross-posting. :) >> >> I'd like to ask you, if anyone could share either an image or >> installation with application, >> which using Magma OODB. >> I'd like to use it& test how changing different aspects of Magma >> internals could affect the performance. >> >> There's many tricks, which is known by Chris how to speed it up by >> cleverly fine-tuning various Magma options, >> like read strategy etc. >> But what i'd like is to see, is some setup, used by people, and by >> taking it, see how it could make run faster, >> without changing an application code. >> >> I remember, someone gave a talk @ ESUG, that they were using Magma for >> their application, >> but then forced to switch to another DB layer, because they had bad >> performance issues. >> It would be good, if you could give me the code, so i can run it and >> see if things could be improved. >> Its not a problem, if code is not open-source, we could sign an NDA, >> if this is necessary. >> >> I need something real, simply because benchmarks sometimes not >> representative. :) >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] osprocess does not work on Squeak 5.8b10

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, any news with this? Cheers, Esteban On 2010-09-23 03:13:13 -0300, Tudor Girba <tudor.girba(a)gmail.com> said: > Hi, > > On the Coq VM from Eliot, invoking OSProcess on a Mac worked well. On > Squeak 5.8b10 it crashes by saying: "process accessor module not > available". > > Is there a way to fix this? > > Cheers, > Doru

Oct. 28, 2010

[Pharo-project] Glamour theme now loads in Pharo1.2

by Fernando Olivero

Name: Glamour-Morphic-Theme-FernandoOlivero.22 Author: FernandoOlivero Time: 28 October 2010, 3:26:49 pm UUID: fa2bf315-5143-4e38-8e1d-6563510b1169 Ancestors: Glamour-Morphic-Theme-tg.21 Ported the style to Pharo1.2. Dropped the usage of MenuIcons, because this class was deprecated, now each theme defines its own Icons class. See GLMUIThemeIcons.

Oct. 28, 2010

[Pharo-project] A small change to SPort

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, (This is specially for Janko) I made a small change to SPort, because I need to execute command shell scripts, and the functionality is not implemented on SPort for Pharo. What I made is simply this: runShellCommandString: aCommandString | processClass | processClass := Smalltalk at: #OSProcess ifAbsent: [ self error: 'OSProcess is not installed, you need to install it before execute #runShellCommandString:']. ^processClass perform: #command: with: aCommandString. I want to commit it, but I don't have write rights to SPort project... can you add this method change? Cheers, Esteban

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] posting etiquette - please post new text at the *top* of your email

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

If you really want some fun, charter a new usenet group. This debate will arise, and you'd think top-posting would freeze the Earth's core and end life as we know it :) That's w/o any petitioners so much as mentioning it. That said, again, it's not necessarily laziness - I have had two rotten email systems in a row foisted on me in succession. First GroupUnwise and then LookOut!! Both were/are reputed to be able to correctly quote text, but neither offered the options described. Etiquette aside, top-posting is poor communication, but the tools to do better seem to be disappearing :( ________________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Niko Schwarz [niko.schwarz(a)googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:09 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] posting etiquette - please post new text at the *top* of your email I remember that alright. On some Usenet groups you'd get stoned to death if you were to fullquote at the bottom. Postings like that we'd call TOFU in Germanglish: ("Text oben, Fullquote unten"), and it was a major offense to submit TOFU. And the holy scripture was RFC 1855 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855) "Content of a follow-up post should exceed quoted content." I think RFC1855-style messages still look beautiful, and they have their place. But if you're too lazy to follow the gist of it, that's alright with me, but then put your content at the top, so I don't have to scroll down to Walhalla. Niko

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12217

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

This is why we want it :) I'm so sad to see sophie not taking more mindshare and got %^&*&^% by some not so nice bulgarian rich guys. Politics..... Stef >> Issue 1801: Rescue Sophie Undo framework > > Ya, > > This btw worked really really well we could create a new Sophie book, do lots of editing, undo back to the initial > creation, redo back to the last change, even if things were "complicated" The undo framework made it easy.

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Noobie Browser question

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Tony this is not that simple. We hope in the future to have an infrastructure that lets us build better tools. Now I'm sure that if you help a community you will learn fast. I started doing simple bug fixes reviews long time ago :) On Oct 27, 2010, at 11:40 PM, Tony Fleig wrote: > StÃ©phane, > > Thanks for the response. > > I am sad to see features eliminated for this reason. If I were a more experienced Smalltalk programmer I would volunteer to maintain it myself. > > TF > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 12:56 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Oct 27, 2010, at 8:19 PM, Tony Fleig wrote: > > > The Browser in Pharo Core and Pharo One-Click doesn't appear to have the features described in the Pharo By Example book in chapter 6. In particular, there is no History bar at the top. Clicking on the gray lozenge at the upper right of the browser window gives me the option of selecting the Browser or OBSystemBrowserAdaptor, neither of which seems to have the features shown in the book. > > > > Is there somewhere I can get the OmniBrowser described in the book, or has it been replaced with what appears to be a less-functional version? > > for the moment it has been donwgraded because of lack of maintainers. > > > > > > Thanks, > > TF > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.2] #12217

by John M McIntosh

On 2010-10-27, at 1:28 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > Issue 1801: Rescue Sophie Undo framework Ya, This btw worked really really well we could create a new Sophie book, do lots of editing, undo back to the initial creation, redo back to the last change, even if things were "complicated" The undo framework made it easy. -- =========================================================================== John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com ===========================================================================

Oct. 28, 2010

[Pharo-project] Source code management - Subversion

by nullPointer

Regards before i want say than my knowledge of smalltalk is poor; and my knowledge of Smalltalk tools not exists :) IÂ´m used to use source code managers in another languages for handle text files. In that environments when I "unprotect" a file nothing more can write on it. I understand the equivalence of that in Smalltalk could be a "check out" to method level, or class level. Exists something like that in Pharo/squeak? Monticello could be work of that way? Imagine for example I want unprotect a class of Monticello server code; nobody could change that class , but is possible for another developers change another classes or methods. I donÂ´t know if explain good... Thanks for the help. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Source-code-management-Subversion-tp3016908p3016908.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 28, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] posting etiquette - please post new text at the *top* of your email

by Geert Claes

Ramon Leon wrote: > > > Douglas Brebner wrote: >> >> Or even better, cut out the irrelevant quoted text :) >> > Yes please, as top posting is *not* good etiquette, but that's an old > flame war. > I guess its a different experience via email as apposed to online forums. I tend to only quote relevant bits including the author. http://forum.world.st/file/n3016896/quoting.png -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/posting-etiquette-please-post-new-text-at-the-top-of-… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Oct. 28, 2010