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Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Igor Stasenko

2010/1/19 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > Hi Mariano, > > I use them in Mondrian. I haven't found a better way to draw splines > and arcs without these classes. > Bezier curves? > Cheers, > Alexandre > > On 19 Jan 2010, at 07:20, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> Maybe I even would like to remove the whole package 'ST80- >> Paths'.....but, going step by step, I would remove Â Arc, Circle and >> Spline. As far as I could see, they don't have more senders than >> their own examples. And they are not even working. For example, Arc >> and Circule shows the same. Evaluate: >> >> Arc example >> Circle example >> Spline example >> >> So, what do you think? Â We break everything if we do this? opinions? >> >> Maybe we can put them in PharoMorphicExtras :) >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel Â http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/1/19 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > Both works on my machine using Pharo 10.01.1 image, but fonts are ugly > with 0.15.2f Pharo vm > > Good. It means that both are closure enable but 0.15.2f Pharo vm has not compiled the TrueType plugin, thus, Dev images will look ugly. I would remove this link from website if the other one is working ok. > Laurent > > > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:00 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> I'mrefering to the one mentioned on the public pharo-project.org web page >> >> >> On Jan 19, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: >> >> > Stef, >> > >> > No problem. Are you referring to 3.11-3? Is there anything in >> particular that I should try? The image loads and saves, some randomly >> selected tests pass the (the weak inspector test case is not happy). >> > >> > The nice fonts do not work, but they do with the same image and 0.15.2f >> Pharo vm. >> > >> > Bill >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: >> pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane >> Ducasse >> > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:40 PM >> > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development >> > Subject: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project >> > >> > Hi bill >> > >> > can you let us know if the linux VM pointed to on the web site is >> working (normally it should not since it should be preclosure). >> > >> > Stef >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] keyboard shortcuts

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/1/19 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > Hi, > > how can I display all keyboard shortcuts assigned in Pharo ? > > http://n2.nabble.com/Regarding-the-shortcuts-td4157825.html

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Alexandre Bergel

However, I am okay to have them in a separate package. Alexandre On 19 Jan 2010, at 07:20, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Maybe I even would like to remove the whole package 'ST80- > Paths'.....but, going step by step, I would remove Arc, Circle and > Spline. As far as I could see, they don't have more senders than > their own examples. And they are not even working. For example, Arc > and Circule shows the same. Evaluate: > > Arc example > Circle example > Spline example > > So, what do you think? We break everything if we do this? opinions? > > Maybe we can put them in PharoMorphicExtras :) > > Cheers > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Mariano, I use them in Mondrian. I haven't found a better way to draw splines and arcs without these classes. Cheers, Alexandre On 19 Jan 2010, at 07:20, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Maybe I even would like to remove the whole package 'ST80- > Paths'.....but, going step by step, I would remove Arc, Circle and > Spline. As far as I could see, they don't have more senders than > their own examples. And they are not even working. For example, Arc > and Circule shows the same. Evaluate: > > Arc example > Circle example > Spline example > > So, what do you think? We break everything if we do this? opinions? > > Maybe we can put them in PharoMorphicExtras :) > > Cheers > > Mariano > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] worldMenu

by Fernando olivero

what about a PasteUp behavior as a Trait? That could be attached to any morph that wants PasteUp behavior. Fernando On Jan 19, 2010, at 1:57 AM, Francisco Ortiz PeÃ±aloza wrote: > I totally agree! Another thought is that there isn't currently other > use cases for a PasteUpMorph besides World. > > I would love to have a simple solution or a solution at all rather > than my just my opinion. > > Best Regards, > Francisco > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:57 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> On Jan 18, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Francisco Ortiz PeÃ±aloza wrote: >> >>> i know but not every PasteUpMorph has to be the World... >>> >>> from PasteUpMorph comments >>> "A morph whose submorphs comprise a paste-up of rectangular subparts >>> which "show through". Anything called a 'Playfield' is a >>> PasteUpMorph." >>> >>> i'm just saying that anything related to the world concept >>> semantically doesnt belong to what i understand for PasteUpMorph. >> >> >> I do not understand PasteUpMorph (no pun intended). >> Seems to me that it was playing too many roles (I happy that we removed a couple of tenth of methods from it). >> >> Stef >>>>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] CUIS new Text Editor Classes

by Fernando olivero

Hi Tudor, I had to postpone this work for a while, because i have a deadline this 22. But i will continue to work on it next week. Up to now, i have a changeset that reifies the list i sent in the previous email. And started to look at the port of CUIS editors in the Squeak Trunk , as Steff suggest it would be a better starting point. I have everything ported up to NewParagraph. Just a thought, TextMorph andPluggableTextMorph hierarchies are full of overrides, i think because people diddnt want to cleanup over complicated TextMorph and PluggableTextMorph, and still be able to edit text and code! After porting CUIS Editor, there will be a major problem when making the new TextMorph ( FOR TEXT) and CodeMorph ( for...CODE). A lot of compatibility with the IDE tools will be a problem. So i will make a clean CodeMorph and CleanTextMorph to start with. Later Shout and OB, and O2 people could extend the hierarchies properly. Saludos, Fernando On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi Fernano, > > Any new development on this front? :) > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On 12 Jan 2010, at 16:40, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi Fernando, >> >> This sounds really exciting :) >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On 12 Jan 2010, at 13:32, Fernando olivero wrote: >> >>> Stef, i've started from CUIS. >>> >>> This is what i have done so far. >>> >>> 1. Added the System-TextAttributes category >>> 2. Moved the classes from Collections-Text to System-TextAttributes >>> 3. Added System-Text category >>> 4. Move Text from Collections-Text to System-Text. >>> 5. File in CUIS new classes: Editor, SimpleEditor, TextEditor and >>> SmalltalkEditor. >>> 6. Removed Collections-Text category. >>> >>> Problems started here: >>> >>> >>> 7. >>> Merge CUIS Text class with Pharo Text class. >>> >>> (Cuis) Text has an attribute named initialStyle not present in >>> (Pharo) Text. This is the main diff from both images. >>> >>> >>> 8. Merge CUIS NewParagraph with Pharo NewParagraph >>> >>> (Pharo) NewParagraph has an attribute named textStyle not present >>> in (Cuis) Pharo. >>> >>> In several NewParagraph methods CUIS doesn't care is some strings >>> are isOctetString, and the Pharo NewParagraph does. For example >>> #composeAll. >>> I've preserved the Pharo behavior. >>> >>> >>> Maybe i should start with the Squeak port then? >>> >>> >>> Further steps: >>> >>> 9. Merge (cuis) TextMorph and (pharo) TextMorph, making it have a >>> non-smalltalk,TextEditor. >>> >>> 10. Create (pharo) CodeMorph, replacing a TextMorph with a >>> SmalltalkEditor. >>> To my opinion , this will the major contribution, separating >>> TextEditor and SmalltlakEditor concernes and their proper views , >>> TextMorph and CodeMorph. >>> >>> >>> Fernando >>> >>> >>> On Jan 10, 2010, at 10:43 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>> >>>> Excellent fernando! >>>> Did you start from squeak or cuis >>>> I was planning to start from Squeak since they ported back CUIS >>>> code in the context >>>> of WideStrings (CUIS is pre unicode support) >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>>> Juan re-factored the smalltalk behavior in the editors, creating >>>>> the following hierarchy >>>>> >>>>> Editor >>>>> TextEditor SimpleEditor >>>>> SmalltalkEditor >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> See the comment in Editor class in Cuis image http://www.jvuletich.org/Cuis/Index.html >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> New text editors. >>>>> TextEditor provides most of the functionality that used to be in >>>>> TextMorphEditor. This class is no longer a Controller! >>>>> >>>>> SmalltalkEditor is has Smalltalk code specific features. >>>>> >>>>> SimpleEditor provides basic functionality for single line text >>>>> editing. It does not handle fonts and styles, aligning and >>>>> Smalltalk utilities. It handles one single line. >>>>> >>>>> Would be nice to adopt this refactoring into Pharo, i've started >>>>> to port it and cleaning up the textmorph in the process. But it's >>>>> still a work in progress. >>>>> >>>>> Fernando >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 10, 2010, at 3:09 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gary and others >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I really think that we should do an audit of Morphic. In 1.1 we >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> going already faster but I'm sure that there is plenty >>>>>>> of space for improvements. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I see several actions >>>>>>> - checking squeak toolbuilder enhancements and using it for >>>>>>> the tools >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - checking CUIS >>>>>>> - juan did an excellent job remocving a lot of unnecessary code >>>>>>> - juan optimize scrollbar >>>>>>> - juan did a new texteditor morph >>>>>> >>>>>> Indeed, a text editor that does not hardcode smalltalk specific >>>>>> behavior would be great :). >>>>>> >>>>>>> - removing/cleaning extra widgets Pluggable/nonpluggable plague. >>>>>>> - integrating better polymorph into the widgets layer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>>> >>>>>> "Reasonable is what we are accustomed with." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>>> project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Obvious things are difficult to teach." >> >> >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Speaking louder won't make the point worthier." > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] keyboard shortcuts

by Francois Stephany

Hi Laurent, > Is there a shortcut for switching windows like alt-tab or cmd-tab ? cmd + left/right should do the trick...

Jan. 19, 2010

[Pharo-project] keyboard shortcuts

by laurent laffont

Hi, how can I display all keyboard shortcuts assigned in Pharo ? Is there a shortcut for switching windows like alt-tab or cmd-tab ? Cheers, Laurent

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project

by laurent laffont

Both works on my machine using Pharo 10.01.1 image, but fonts are ugly with 0.15.2f Pharo vm Laurent On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:00 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I'mrefering to the one mentioned on the public pharo-project.org web page > > > On Jan 19, 2010, at 12:55 AM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > > > Stef, > > > > No problem. Are you referring to 3.11-3? Is there anything in particular > that I should try? The image loads and saves, some randomly selected tests > pass the (the weak inspector test case is not happy). > > > > The nice fonts do not work, but they do with the same image and 0.15.2f > Pharo vm. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse > > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 4:40 PM > > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development > > Subject: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project > > > > Hi bill > > > > can you let us know if the linux VM pointed to on the web site is working > (normally it should not since it should be preclosure). > > > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 19, 2010