January 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project

by laurent laffont

How do you compile FTPlugin in squeak 3.11 ? Laurent 2010/1/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > Ok...so: pharo exupery vm as FTPlugin compiled and 3.11. doesn't. And both > are closure-enable. > > Does someone have a compiled squeak-unix-vm with FTPlugin ? because > otherwise, I think I would rather to put again Exupery as the default one. > > Opinions? > > 2010/1/19 George Herolyants <george.herolyants(a)gmail.com> > >> So, here are the results (see attachments). On the background of each >> pharo screenshot you can see the version number of the vm, and command >> line I used to run pharo image with this vm. >> As you can see results are far better for the pharo-exupery-linux-vm >> (which means 0.15.2f), because it has FTPlugin compiled, and >> squeak-unix-vm (which means 3.11.3-2135) hasn't. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about O2 dependencies

by Alexandre Bergel

> I'm confused. What is the right process to update OB for Pharo now? > In Pharo-dev, as far as I see, OB is still taken from Colin's repo. > Is this gonna change now? Where should I commit a patch to OB now, > to Colin's, to Lukas' repo, somewhere else? > > Maybe best would be to have a non-personal repo on squeaksource > which can be used by all OB developers and from where Pharo takes > the code? > > David > > > I am confused too. Actually, this is exactly what I asked when > people suggested to use Lukas' OB. David, I think that all the code should be on squeaksource: http://www.squeaksource.com/O2.html is still free. The way to update O2 in Pharo should not be different than for Mondrian, Moose, and other. The ConfigurationOfO2 should do this. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project

by laurent laffont

Do you use composite / compiz / kwin effects ? I've just seen that if I disable kwin effects, fonts are OK with exupery vm. Laurent 2010/1/19 George Herolyants <george.herolyants(a)gmail.com> > So, here are the results (see attachments). On the background of each > pharo screenshot you can see the version number of the vm, and command > line I used to run pharo image with this vm. > As you can see results are far better for the pharo-exupery-linux-vm > (which means 0.15.2f), because it has FTPlugin compiled, and > squeak-unix-vm (which means 3.11.3-2135) hasn't. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Alexandre Bergel

>> I use them in Mondrian. I haven't found a better way to draw splines >> and arcs without these classes. > > You could use the Balloon Canvas or Rome API. I should have a look at this yes. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Alexandre Bergel

> Regarding O2, it will be outside until it doesn't break OB. The good > news is that (you already know that) yesterday I received an email > from David telling me that you were working on that. I was going to > release a new Dev image, but I will wait to see if O2 is ready to be > included. So far, yesterday I reported a couple of bugs to David. > > Keep me informed about the progress (which so far, in one day was > excellent, as I could load O2 in a core image without OB!!!) Yeah, we will work on this this afternoon Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ok...so: pharo exupery vm as FTPlugin compiled and 3.11. doesn't. And both are closure-enable. Does someone have a compiled squeak-unix-vm with FTPlugin ? because otherwise, I think I would rather to put again Exupery as the default one. Opinions? 2010/1/19 George Herolyants <george.herolyants(a)gmail.com> > So, here are the results (see attachments). On the background of each > pharo screenshot you can see the version number of the vm, and command > line I used to run pharo image with this vm. > As you can see results are far better for the pharo-exupery-linux-vm > (which means 0.15.2f), because it has FTPlugin compiled, and > squeak-unix-vm (which means 3.11.3-2135) hasn't. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about O2 dependencies

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:33 PM, David Roethlisberger <roethlis(a)iam.unibe.ch > wrote: > > Ok. Good. Right now, the Pharo community decided to use Lukas' repository >>> instead of Colin's one, but I guess it can be merged. Lukas ? >>> >> > I find it unfriendly to merge into a foreign repository -- pull, fork and >> merge in your own repository. And eventually ask the maintainer to merge the >> code. >> > > I'm confused. What is the right process to update OB for Pharo now? In > Pharo-dev, as far as I see, OB is still taken from Colin's repo. Is this > gonna change now? Where should I commit a patch to OB now, to Colin's, to > Lukas' repo, somewhere else? > > Maybe best would be to have a non-personal repo on squeaksource which can > be used by all OB developers and from where Pharo takes the code? > > David > I am confused too. Actually, this is exactly what I asked when people suggested to use Lukas' OB.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Gary Chambers

Splines and Beziers are the same thing. With what i did for SVGMorph stuff, arcs can only be approximated by splines... nothing to stop you extending BalloonCanvas to draw arcs using the code from Arc though... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Bergel" <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ? >>> I use them in Mondrian. I haven't found a better way to draw splines >>> and arcs without these classes. >>> >> Bezier curves? > > Maybe. I haven't checked the formulas carefully. Maybe Splines are a > bit different then bezier. > > Alexandre > >> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> On 19 Jan 2010, at 07:20, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >>> >>>> Maybe I even would like to remove the whole package 'ST80- >>>> Paths'.....but, going step by step, I would remove Arc, Circle and >>>> Spline. As far as I could see, they don't have more senders than >>>> their own examples. And they are not even working. For example, Arc >>>> and Circule shows the same. Evaluate: >>>> >>>> Arc example >>>> Circle example >>>> Spline example >>>> >>>> So, what do you think? We break everything if we do this? opinions? >>>> >>>> Maybe we can put them in PharoMorphicExtras :) >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mariano >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] testing the linux vm of pharo-project

by George Herolyants

So, here are the results (see attachments). On the background of each pharo screenshot you can see the version number of the vm, and command line I used to run pharo image with this vm. As you can see results are far better for the pharo-exupery-linux-vm (which means 0.15.2f), because it has FTPlugin compiled, and squeak-unix-vm (which means 3.11.3-2135) hasn't.

Jan. 19, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Can we remove Arc, Circle and Spline ?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > > BTW, you usually build your Moose images based in PharoCore or > > PharoDev? > > On PharoDev. But things may change if O2 remains outside the image. > I was asking mostly because in the default Dev images the extra morph package was loaded...so maybe moving there was a good idea. Regarding O2, it will be outside until it doesn't break OB. The good news is that (you already know that) yesterday I received an email from David telling me that you were working on that. I was going to release a new Dev image, but I will wait to see if O2 is ready to be included. So far, yesterday I reported a couple of bugs to David. Keep me informed about the progress (which so far, in one day was excellent, as I could load O2 in a core image without OB!!!) Cheers Mariano > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 19, 2010