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[Pharo-project] Gardening/ScriptManager

by Torsten Bergmann

>I checked the overrides and it has perform: selector orSendTo: otherTarget cleaned up in core ScriptManager-Core-tbn.3, the configuration now also uses that one >I tried and works ok, but I can still see the problem with the Beeper. oh - there were two sends. I only corrected one. Thats fixed too. >I tried to commit the fix but of course, I didn't have access. I've added you as a developer Bye T. -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser

Jan. 26, 2010

[Pharo-project] Gardening/ScriptManager

by Torsten Bergmann

See below for Josephs answer regarding Ginsu. -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:39:19 +0100 Von: Joseph Pelrine <...> An: Torsten Bergmann <...> CC: ..., ... Betreff: Re: Gardening/ScriptManager Hi Torsten, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Below a reply from Joseph. Thanks, I changed the ScriptManager project http://www.squeaksource.com/ScriptManager.html to MIT license. > I think the mail is enough since Joseph already signed the agreement > for Pharo (according to the ListOfOkCommitters on the wiki)! > > Maybe Metacello development can profit from Ginsu, dont know. Had no time > to follow all the details at http://code.google.com/p/metacello. I wouldn't be surprised, since Dale also worked for Digitalk, and heard the same ideas about modularity etc. that I did. > > Squeak-dev is currently also discussing the need of a package management system > (Sake/Bob, Metacello, maybe Ginsu). Time will tell. Would be nice if there > would be only one sharable across Squeak, Cuis and Pharo (and other Smalltalks). I had taken Ginsu much further, and had it running over multiple dialects with multiple back-end possibilities (I couldn't give up on ENVY for Squeak :-) > > I cant remember all the details of Ginsu beside that it was working (and > dont have a World tour image here) - it had a declarative model similar > to Metacello. If I remember correctly Joseph used XML (simÃlar to Maven) instead > of a code spec as Metacello does. I had used code specs in Smalltalk, similar to the specs Alan Knight and I describe in the ENVY book. Saves you needing an XML parser in the base image. IIRC, John implemented an XML version for SWT. > > Joseph, regarding Ginsu it would be nice to have an MIT release too so others > can have a look. Maybe someone can publish the last world tour image too. Thanks! Since I haven't worked on it for a while now, I'll have to see what the latest version I have looks like, and what I'd want to put out publicly. Cheers Joseph > > Bye > T. > > > > Torsten Bergmann wrote: > [SNIP]> >> If Joseph agrees to have the code as MIT we may also be able to include >> it in the Pharo-dev image. >> >> Bye >> T. >> >> [1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-January/143674.… >> > Thanks for forwarding this. I'm quite happy with having ScriptManager as > MIT licensed (what do I need to do to make that official?). I don't > remember which license the World Tour stuff was under, but that's been a > loong time. Also, Ginsu is still around and working quite well, when > Pharo finally gets far enough that it would be useful to include it :-) > > Cheers > -- Joseph Pelrine [ | ] MetaProg GmbH Email: ... Web: http://www.metaprog.com When circumstances change, I change my views. What do you do? - John Maynard Keynes -- Nur noch bis 31.01.2010: DSL-Komplettpaket fÃ¼r 16,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Been Pharo clean :)

by Tudor Girba

It looks like it did not even last for five minutes :)) Doru On 26 Jan 2010, at 12:39, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Being pharo clean...geesh > On Jan 26, 2010, at 12:34 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> I should really get some work done aka writing proposal so I will >> avoid to open an image >> and hack nor read mails for one or two weeks. Have fun. >> >> At least I will try. >> >> Stef >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Relationships are of two kinds: those we choose and those that happen. They both matter."

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Been Pharo clean :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Being pharo clean...geesh On Jan 26, 2010, at 12:34 PM, stephane ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > I should really get some work done aka writing proposal so I will avoid to open an image > and hack nor read mails for one or two weeks. Have fun. > > At least I will try. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 26, 2010

[Pharo-project] Been Pharo clean :)

by stephane ducasse

Hi guys I should really get some work done aka writing proposal so I will avoid to open an image and hack nor read mails for one or two weeks. Have fun. At least I will try. Stef

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Gardening/ScriptManager

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Thanks Torsten....so it means that we can put it in PharoDev if people like it. I checked the overrides and it has perform: selector orSendTo: otherTarget External packages loaded in Dev image are supposed not to have overrides, but I don't know. Opinions ? I tried and works ok, but I can still see the problem with the Beeper. I tried to commit the fix but of course, I didn't have access. Mariano On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > Below a reply from Joseph. Thanks, I changed the ScriptManager project > http://www.squeaksource.com/ScriptManager.html to MIT license. > I think the mail is enough since Joseph already signed the agreement > for Pharo (according to the ListOfOkCommitters on the wiki)! > > Maybe Metacello development can profit from Ginsu, dont know. Had no time > to follow all the details at http://code.google.com/p/metacello. > > Squeak-dev is currently also discussing the need of a package management > system > (Sake/Bob, Metacello, maybe Ginsu). Time will tell. Would be nice if there > would be only one sharable across Squeak, Cuis and Pharo (and other > Smalltalks). > > I cant remember all the details of Ginsu beside that it was working (and > dont have a World tour image here) - it had a declarative model similar > to Metacello. If I remember correctly Joseph used XML (simÃlar to Maven) > instead > of a code spec as Metacello does. > > Joseph, regarding Ginsu it would be nice to have an MIT release too so > others > can have a look. Maybe someone can publish the last world tour image too. > Thanks! > > Bye > T. > > > > Torsten Bergmann wrote: > [SNIP]> > > If Joseph agrees to have the code as MIT we may also be able to include > > it in the Pharo-dev image. > > > > Bye > > T. > > > > [1] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-January/143674.… > > > Thanks for forwarding this. I'm quite happy with having ScriptManager as > MIT licensed (what do I need to do to make that official?). I don't > remember which license the World Tour stuff was under, but that's been a > loong time. Also, Ginsu is still around and working quite well, when > Pharo finally gets far enough that it would be useful to include it :-) > > Cheers > > -- > Joseph Pelrine [ | ] > MetaProg GmbH > Email: jpelrine(a)metaprog.com > Web: http://www.metaprog.com > > When circumstances change, I change my views. What do you do? > - John Maynard Keynes > > -- > Nur noch bis 31.01.2010: DSL-Komplettpaket fÃ¼r 16,99 Euro/mtl.!* > http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 26, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN 1.1] prebuilt core 1.1#11184

by Marcus Denker

http://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/25589/PharoCore-1.1-11184-UNSTABLE.… -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11184

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > 11184 > ----- > > Issue 1877: New MacMenu code > Cool. Remember you also need to change peekEvent to this: peekEvent "Look ahead at the next event." | nextEvent | nextEvent := eventQueue peek. ^((nextEvent isNil not) and: [(nextEvent at: 1) ~= EventTypeMenu]) ifTrue: [self processEvent: nextEvent] > In postscript: ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease. > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 26, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11184

by Marcus Denker

11184 ----- Issue 1877: New MacMenu code In postscript: ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease. -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Jan. 26, 2010

[Pharo-project] Gardening/ScriptManager

by Torsten Bergmann

Below a reply from Joseph. Thanks, I changed the ScriptManager project http://www.squeaksource.com/ScriptManager.html to MIT license. I think the mail is enough since Joseph already signed the agreement for Pharo (according to the ListOfOkCommitters on the wiki)! Maybe Metacello development can profit from Ginsu, dont know. Had no time to follow all the details at http://code.google.com/p/metacello. Squeak-dev is currently also discussing the need of a package management system (Sake/Bob, Metacello, maybe Ginsu). Time will tell. Would be nice if there would be only one sharable across Squeak, Cuis and Pharo (and other Smalltalks). I cant remember all the details of Ginsu beside that it was working (and dont have a World tour image here) - it had a declarative model similar to Metacello. If I remember correctly Joseph used XML (simÃlar to Maven) instead of a code spec as Metacello does. Joseph, regarding Ginsu it would be nice to have an MIT release too so others can have a look. Maybe someone can publish the last world tour image too. Thanks! Bye T. Torsten Bergmann wrote: [SNIP]> > If Joseph agrees to have the code as MIT we may also be able to include > it in the Pharo-dev image. > > Bye > T. > > [1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-January/143674.… > Thanks for forwarding this. I'm quite happy with having ScriptManager as MIT licensed (what do I need to do to make that official?). I don't remember which license the World Tour stuff was under, but that's been a loong time. Also, Ginsu is still around and working quite well, when Pharo finally gets far enough that it would be useful to include it :-) Cheers -- Joseph Pelrine [ | ] MetaProg GmbH Email: jpelrine(a)metaprog.com Web: http://www.metaprog.com When circumstances change, I change my views. What do you do? - John Maynard Keynes -- Nur noch bis 31.01.2010: DSL-Komplettpaket fÃ¼r 16,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02

Jan. 26, 2010