January 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Stan Shepherd

That's really neat Geert. Nice to view Smalltalk as one community: http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.topics.html ...Stan -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/For-those-who-use-Nabble-tp1310998p1311037.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Geert Claes

Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Ok....I have just saw if with your email...but is it possible also if I > post from email instead from Nabble ? > Hi Mariano, if you post to the mailing list via email Nabble, will only grab it and add it to the archive so it won't add that bit I believe. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/For-those-who-use-Nabble-tp1310998p1311036.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Gardening/ScriptManager

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

With respect, please re-read your post, with emphasis on "A snapshot of an old Windows machine can run on a virtual machine forever, whereas keeping an operating system compatible forever is bound to fail." I do not agree that virtualization is fix-all goodness, and I have concerns about trying to have various versions of important classes in the image. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Marcus Denker Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:10 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Gardening/ScriptManager On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Not so fast, all you have to do is sprinkle some .net dust on the computer and everything will be fixed until the next time MS changes their mind, right? > > Sorry, couldn't resist. Ironically, I find that software written to MS specs breaks readily; things written with anything up through contempt for them seems to work just fine. I stop short of seeing a vm as allowing one to run Windows in perpetuity, but that is another debate. > > This was not about Microsoft or Windows, nor about virtualization in particular. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] RC2, Metacello and image building

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez

El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 23:03 +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck escribiÃ³: > Thanks Torsten, this is really cool :) > > I would like everybody gets the same idea as you: the current Dev > image is JUST a standard, little combination of possibilities. But we > have the tools and we already did the work so that everybody can > create it's own Dev image, with it's own flavour, without too much > pain, an using a PharoCore image as a base. That's why I would like to > remove from Core as much as possible. > Indeed that is how I work. I shamelessly use your ConfigurationOfPharo to build my development images from a PharoCore image. But for the production images, I use only the ConfigurationOfXXX needed (that is, the ConfigurationOfAzteca, that is my application) and that configuration references other ConfigurationsOfXXX as dependencies (magma, RFB, Seaside28). This is then executed in a PharoCore image to build the 2 images that makes my setup deploy. So, as Torsten said, Pharo isn't only about a new image release, but a lot of tools that are enabling new ways to work in Smalltalk. Cheers > BTW, it didn't work on Mac OS :( The problem is that the class > has references to SqueakMap, which has removed quite a long in Pharo. > > Look ExternalWebBrowserMacOS >> isApplescriptAvailable > > Sorry I am not sure how to fix it. > > I attach PharoDebug.log. > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> > wrote: > from pharo-dev to a custom (seaside) application image. > > Read > > http://astares.blogspot.com/2010/01/pharo-10-release-candidate-2-and-image.… > > Bye > T. > -- > Nur noch bis 31.01.2010: DSL-Komplettpaket fÃ¼r 16,99 > Euro/mtl.!* > http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:12 PM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > As far as I know Nabble adds this "View this message in context" bit > automatically when posted from Nabble. > Ok....I have just saw if with your email...but is it possible also if I post from email instead from Nabble ? > -- > View this message in context: > http://n4.nabble.com/For-those-who-use-Nabble-tp1310998p1311012.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Geert Claes

As far as I know Nabble adds this "View this message in context" bit automatically when posted from Nabble. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/For-those-who-use-Nabble-tp1310998p1311012.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Gardening/ScriptManager

by Marcus Denker

On Jan 26, 2010, at 10:59 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Not so fast, all you have to do is sprinkle some .net dust on the computer and everything will be fixed until the next time MS changes their mind, right? > > Sorry, couldn't resist. Ironically, I find that software written to MS specs breaks readily; things written with anything up through contempt for them seems to work just fine. I stop short of seeing a vm as allowing one to run Windows in perpetuity, but that is another debate. > > This was not about Microsoft or Windows, nor about virtualization in particular. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Geert: Thanks! Sorry for being a little OT. I don't know very much about Gmane, nabble, etc. I just configured it only once for the squeakdbx mailing list. But in certain mailing list, I saw that at the end of a mail (thread) you have automatically put the link to Gmane/Nabble. And this is really cool. A lot for times, I want to put the link of a thread in the bug tracker and I have to go Nabble, search it there, etc....if I have it in the mail, is much simpler. Do you know if we can do this for pharo mailing lists ? Cheers Mariano On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > I managed (with some assistance from Nabble support) to group several > Smalltalk mailing lists on Nabble under the common category "Smalltalk" > (http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.html) > > To get them all to appear together the Pharo forums had to move Pharo to > the > a common n4 server or something, so the links to the Pharo-Smalltalk and > Pharo-Smalltalk-Users forums need to be updated on the Pharo website > (although the old links will still work for some time) to: > Pharo-Smalltalk: http://n4.nabble.com/Pharo-Smalltalk-f1294837.html > Pharo-Smalltalk-Users: > http://n4.nabble.com/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n4.nabble.com/For-those-who-use-Nabble-tp1310998p1310998.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 26, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] TestIndenting fails with Exupery (was: [BetaTesting] [ANN] Pharo1.0-10507-rc2dev10.01.2)

by Bryce Kampjes

On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 08:12 +0100, laurent laffont wrote: > Hi, > > > Now I know how to build my own squeak vm with FT2Plugin (yeepeee !!). > So: > > > Linux + FT2Plugin + Squeak vm = success > Linux + FT2Plugin + Exupery vm = fails > > > I put the built vm here: > http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-src-with-FT2Plugin.tar.gz If it's font related then the Exupery VMs also have a patched bitlbt for subpixel antialiasing. The true type code uses that to make fonts look a bit nicer. Besides that the Exupery VMs should be very close to Squeak VMs (ignoring version differences) except for a few changes to allow them to run native code instead of interpreting. Bryce

Jan. 26, 2010

[Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Geert Claes

I managed (with some assistance from Nabble support) to group several Smalltalk mailing lists on Nabble under the common category "Smalltalk" (http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.html) To get them all to appear together the Pharo forums had to move Pharo to the a common n4 server or something, so the links to the Pharo-Smalltalk and Pharo-Smalltalk-Users forums need to be updated on the Pharo website (although the old links will still work for some time) to: Pharo-Smalltalk: http://n4.nabble.com/Pharo-Smalltalk-f1294837.html Pharo-Smalltalk-Users: http://n4.nabble.com/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/For-those-who-use-Nabble-tp1310998p1310998.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 26, 2010