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Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast in mac?

by Michael Roberts

I use iShowU, but there are others. cheers Mike On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Hi all, > > hot on the tail of Stans mail: I want to do some screencasts on a mac, > maybe without audio. Good experiences anyone? > > -- > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Icons for Mac users

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > >I don't know who did the icons. > > That was me - I used Samuel's logos as a base. > > I once created them for page 15 (figure 1.1.) of the > pharo-by-example book where image, source, etc. files > are introduced and made them available via gforge to Oscar > Nierstrasz for inclusion in the book. > > Unfortunately he decided he wanted to have the windows icons, > so I made a screenshot of the (IMHO more ugly) win icons > which are now included as figure 1.1 in the book. > > Thanks for the conversion, at least they are used now. > > Thanks Torsten. I really like them :) > Bye > T. > > > > > -- > GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! > Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01 > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast in mac?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

snapZPro but paying. Stef On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:22 PM, Johan Fabry wrote: > Hi all, > > hot on the tail of Stans mail: I want to do some screencasts on a mac, > maybe without audio. Good experiences anyone? > > -- > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

+1 On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:14 PM, Michael Roberts wrote: > one of the goals is for Pharo communication to be open so I would say > -1 on a private list. +1 on some tag convention > > Mike > > 2010/1/7 Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com>: >> A mailing for me please... Besides, that way we wouldn't have to deal with >> the "everybody jumps in the conversation" if the list is private to testers >> only... >> >> ----------------- >> Benoit St-Jean >> Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean >> Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com >> A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. >> (Albert Einstein) >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 4:02:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!! >> >> Do you think we need a mailing list ? Or just copying each person is enough >> ? >> >> I am active in mailing list, but maybe some of you don't. Please let me know >> what do you prefer as I -almost- have done my first dev image based in 10505 >> and metacello configurations :) >> >> Cheers >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Cool....we are already 13 beta testers :) More than enought :) >>> >>> I updated http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/list >>> >>> And we almost cover all the conbinations of OS, Browser and type of image >>> :) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:50 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand >>>> <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mariano, >>>>> I don't use dev or web images. I've found the PharoCore more stable, >>>>> for example now I'm fixing a dependency browser bug in the dev image >>>>> #10502 (trying a dev after a long time), and clicking with the right >>>>> button gives me : >>>>> >>>>> MessageNotUnderstood: OBTextSelection>>isMethodNode >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, this is issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1182 >>>> >>>>> >>>>> but isn't just that bug, I've never worked 30 minutes with the dev/web >>>>> images without interaction bugs. I wonder what happens with Smalltalk >>>>> and Pharo newcomers when these bugs appears, but there's no survey >>>>> system for Pharo users so no one can't figure out anyway. Well, >>>>> fortunately there are no too many public word of mouth recommendation >>>>> systems yet :) >>>> >>>> >>>> HernÃ¡n: I agreee 100%. All of what you describe is what I said in the >>>> email with subject "We need to do something, seriously, ..." >>>> >>>> And that's exactly what I proposed to do this stuff about the beta >>>> testers. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Mariano >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> HernÃ¡n >>>>> >>>>> 2010/1/1 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >>>>>> Sorry, I realize something. Maybe it would be cool also if you tell us >>>>>> if >>>>>> you use web or dev. I happens also several times that the seaside >>>>>> installation, or pier or whatever are not working very well. So...it >>>>>> would >>>>>> be cool to have both testers :) >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have access to the wiki, just add your self on it. If you don't >>>>>> have >>>>>> access ask to Adrian and he will give you. Finally you can put it here >>>>>> and >>>>>> then I put it in the wiki. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>> >>>>>> Mariano >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ok.....I collect all the information here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Feel free to add something else. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The only thing we need now is Damien's answer...maybe he is in >>>>>>> holidays, I >>>>>>> don't know. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The last thing I would like to propose is that when we have a new >>>>>>> image to >>>>>>> test, not only we send the email to the mailing list but also cc to >>>>>>> each of >>>>>>> us. There is a lot of traffic (fortunately!!) in Pharo mailing list >>>>>>> and not >>>>>>> all the people here keeps truck for it every day. So, I think having >>>>>>> them in >>>>>>> cc is a good idea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> M >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Miguel CobÃ¡ <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to >>>>>>>>> know: >>>>>>>>> OS, >>>>>>>>> VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, >>>>>>>>> I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, >>>>>>>>> OB, 32 >>>>>>>>> bits >>>>>>>>> - Stan Shepherd >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Me too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Miguel CobÃ¡, Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze (testing), Pharo0.1 of 16 >>>>>>>> May >>>>>>>> 2008 [latest update: #10074], Web, OB, 32 bits >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> cheers and happy new year!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Feliz aÃ±o tambiÃ©n Mariano. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Miguel CobÃ¡ >>>>>>>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> Reclaim your name @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Get your new email address >> now! >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 7, 2010

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Icons for Mac users

by Torsten Bergmann

>I don't know who did the icons. That was me - I used Samuel's logos as a base. I once created them for page 15 (figure 1.1.) of the pharo-by-example book where image, source, etc. files are introduced and made them available via gforge to Oscar Nierstrasz for inclusion in the book. Unfortunately he decided he wanted to have the windows icons, so I made a screenshot of the (IMHO more ugly) win icons which are now included as figure 1.1 in the book. Thanks for the conversion, at least they are used now. Bye T. -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

Jan. 7, 2010

[Pharo-project] Screencast in mac?

by Johan Fabry

Hi all, hot on the tail of Stans mail: I want to do some screencasts on a mac, maybe without audio. Good experiences anyone? -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Metacello configurations for Pharo.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Michael Roberts <mike(a)mjr104.co.uk> wrote: > Hi, > > if you can give me a script to load the stable (blessed?) version of > ConfigurationOfPharo I will try and add it to the interim build > server. > Sure. Take the latest PharoCore 10505 image and evaluate Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfPharo'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharo) project version: '1.0-rc2.10505') load. With that you create a the standard Dev image for the moment. I invite you to see the method ConfigurationOfPharo >> baseline10rc2: At the end, you can see the groups I defined: group: 'default' with: #('DevImageStandardOB'); group: 'Pharo Extras' with: #('PharoSound' 'PharoMorphicExtras' 'ArchiveViewer'); group: 'Dev Tools' with: #('RoelTyper' 'NewInspector' 'Shout' 'OCompletion'); group: 'Dev Tools Tests' with: #('Shout Tests' 'OCompletion Tests'); group: 'Dev Tools OB' with: #('Dev Tools' 'OB Dev'); group: 'Dev Tools OB Tests' with: #('Dev Tools Tests' 'OB Dev Tests'); group: 'DevImageStandardOBWithoutTests' with: #('Dev Tools OB' 'Pharo Extras' 'ImageForDevelopers-pharo'); group: 'DevImageStandardOB' with: #('Dev Tools OB Tests' 'DevImageStandardOBWithoutTests'); The group is what you put after the load: If you just send the message load, it takes the default. However, you can evaluate something like this: ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharo) project version: '1.0-rc2.10505') load: 'Dev Tools' or even: ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharo) project version: '1.0-rc2.10505') load: #('Dev Tools' 'Pharo Extras' ) Of course these groups were just my ideas, but we can create as much as we need. Cheers Mariano > > Also it would be ideal to have conditional logic such that the image > knows if such an 'update' is present or not. That way the server goes > to sleep otherwise. we would then have an update stream of sorts for > Pharo. > > cheers, > Mike > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!

by Michael Roberts

one of the goals is for Pharo communication to be open so I would say -1 on a private list. +1 on some tag convention Mike 2010/1/7 Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com>: > A mailing for me please...Â Besides, that way we wouldn't have to deal with > the "everybody jumps in the conversation" if the list is private to testers > only... > > ----------------- > Benoit St-Jean > Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean > Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com > A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. > (Albert Einstein) > > ________________________________ > From: Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 4:02:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!! > > Do you think we need a mailing list ? Or just copying each person is enough > ? > > I am active in mailing list, but maybe some of you don't. Please let me know > what do you prefer as I -almost- have done my first dev image based in 10505 > and metacello configurations :) > > Cheers > > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Cool....we are already 13 beta testers :)Â Â More than enought :) >> >> I updated http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/list >> >> And we almost cover all the conbinations of OS, Browser and type of image >> :) >> >> Cheers >> >> Mariano >> >> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:50 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand >>> <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Mariano, >>>> Â I don't use dev or web images. I've found the PharoCore more stable, >>>> for example now I'm fixing a dependency browser bug in the dev image >>>> #10502 (trying a dev after a long time), and clicking with the right >>>> button gives me : >>>> >>>> MessageNotUnderstood: OBTextSelection>>isMethodNode >>>> >>> >>> Yes, this is issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1182 >>> >>>> >>>> but isn't just that bug, I've never worked 30 minutes with the dev/web >>>> images without interaction bugs. I wonder what happens with Smalltalk >>>> and Pharo newcomers when these bugs appears, but there's no survey >>>> system for Pharo users so no one can't figure out anyway. Well, >>>> fortunately there are no too many public word of mouth recommendation >>>> systems yet :) >>> >>> >>> HernÃ¡n: I agreee 100%. All of what you describe is what I said in the >>> email with subject "We need to do something, seriously, ..." >>> >>> And that's exactly what I proposed to do this stuff about the beta >>> testers. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> HernÃ¡n >>>> >>>> 2010/1/1 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >>>> > Sorry, I realize something. Maybe it would be cool also if you tell us >>>> > if >>>> > you use web or dev. I happens also several times that the seaside >>>> > installation, or pier or whatever are not working very well. So...it >>>> > would >>>> > be cool to have both testers :) >>>> > >>>> > If you have access to the wiki, just add your self on it. If you don't >>>> > have >>>> > access ask to Adrian and he will give you. Finally you can put it here >>>> > and >>>> > then I put it in the wiki. >>>> > >>>> > Cheers! >>>> > >>>> > Mariano >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>>> > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> Ok.....I collect all the information here: >>>> >> >>>> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters >>>> >> >>>> >> Feel free to add something else. >>>> >> >>>> >> The only thing we need now is Damien's answer...maybe he is in >>>> >> holidays, I >>>> >> don't know. >>>> >> >>>> >> The last thing I would like to propose is that when we have a new >>>> >> image to >>>> >> test, not only we send the email to the mailing list but also cc to >>>> >> each of >>>> >> us. There is a lot of traffic (fortunately!!) in Pharo mailing list >>>> >> and not >>>> >> all the people here keeps truck for it every day. So, I think having >>>> >> them in >>>> >> cc is a good idea. >>>> >> >>>> >> Cheers, >>>> >> >>>> >> M >>>> >> >>>> >> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Miguel CobÃ¡ <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> >>>> >> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> > So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to >>>> >>> > know: >>>> >>> > OS, >>>> >>> > VM version, Dev or Web,Â browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, >>>> >>> > I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > - Mariano Martinez Peck.Â Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app,Â Dev, >>>> >>> > OB, 32 >>>> >>> > bits >>>> >>> > - Stan Shepherd >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Me too. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> - Miguel CobÃ¡, Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze (testing), Pharo0.1 of 16 >>>> >>> May >>>> >>> 2008 [latest update: #10074], Web, OB, 32 bits >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > cheers and happy new year!! >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Feliz aÃ±o tambiÃ©n Mariano. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Miguel CobÃ¡ >>>> >>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Pharo-project mailing list >>>> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > ________________________________ > Reclaim your name @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com. Get your new email address > now! > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Metacello configurations for Pharo.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:04 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > There is something not clear to me. How do you envision the > squeaksource project 'Metacello Repository'. For Omnibrowser, should > the configuration be in the ob repository, or being kept in 'Metacello > Repository'? > Thanks for asking Alex. No, they are kept in MetacelloRepository. Think in metacello repository as a catalog where you can find all the software that are manage with metacello. Even each metacello configuration can be used in Squeak, Pharo, Gemstone or any other Smalltalk that supports Monticello. So, every Metacello configuration, should be there. If you are familiar with Debian/Ubuntu, it is something like the Universe with the apt-get or if you know Maven (from Java world), it is like the Ibiblio repository. > > Next week I will work on OB with David. I really like his browser, but > there are many bugs still... > I guess you are talking about 02. Yes, I also like it, but it is not working properly right now. We decided to exclude it temporaly until it doesn't affects OB and until it can be perfactl loaded in a PharoCore image withput anything about OB. Sorry, that was a decision taken with the board. It is just for a moment. We rather to break only O2 users but not both. If you want, you can take the next PharoDev image and install O2 by yourself. Please, to discuss OB versus O2 use another thread :) Cheers Mariano > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > On 7 Jan 2010, at 17:54, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > (Sorry for the long email) > > > > Yes, after a couple of weeks, I have written most of the needed > > Metacello configurations for the Dev images 1.0. Forget 1.1 for a > > while. Now we are able to: > > > > 1) Load stable version of packages > > 2) Manage the dependencies automatically > > 3) Each developer can create its custom PharoDev image > > 4) Flexibility to load the packages you want > > 5) Choose the browser for example: OB or O2 > > 6) Choose to load the tests or not > > 7) Load each package in a PharoCore image without having to install > > anything else (all the dependencies should be managed automatically) > > 8) You can take a PharoCore image and "transform" it to a Dev image, > > or even web. > > 9) Others... > > > > This is not completed yet. There are some things that we are > > discussing with Dale, but they are ok as a first step. I rather go > > step by step. > > > > What I did is to create all the infrastructure: > > > > a) The Configuration classes > > b) The dependencies > > c) the groups, > > > > In summary, most of the "structure" and static information. However, > > I am not sure which version to load of each package. I will probable > > take care of building the Dev images, but I won't: > > > > - Merge anything. It will not be my task to merge OB, or RB or > > whatever. > > - Check every version of each package before doing a release to see > > if it is stable or not. > > > > So...what I REALLY (actually, WE) need is that each developer, each > > maintainer of the packages that we load of a PharoDev image, help us > > to create the stable versions. To create a new version for the > > Metacello configuration is VERY easy, The hard part is already done. > > You just have to create a method and say which versions (except you > > create or eliminate packages or dependencies). If you read the code, > > you will probably understand it. However, you can read the Metacello > > tutorial (no more than one hour), or ask me or even more in the > > Metacello mailing list. So...PLEASE, I need the help of the > > maintainers to create the versions. So far, I created the first > > version (1.0) with the latest version. But the idea is that then you > > create 1.1.1 or 1.2 or whatever you consider. > > > > All the configurations can be found in > http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository > > > > So far, I created: ConfigurationOfNewInspector, > > ConfigurationOfOCompletion, ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser, > > ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtras, ConfigurationOfPharoSound, > > ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser, ConfigurationOfShout , > > and......ConfigurationOfPharo!!! > > > > To install them, just download that package and evaluate the load. > > Example: > > > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfShout'; > > load. > > > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfShout) project version: '1.0') load. > > > > And then, you can also for exaple do: > > > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfShout) project version: '1.0') load: > > 'Core' > > this doesn't install the tests. > > > > Or for example: (ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser project version: '1.0') > > load: 'Dev' > > > > etc... > > > > So, you can load any project and with the group you want. All of > > that can be (or should be hahahaha) perfectly loaded in a 1.0 Core > > image. > > > > What I would really appreciate is if each maintainer can look at the > > code, load the different groups and give me feedback on the > > dependencies or whatever. > > > > I really wait your feedback. > > > > Mariano > > > > ps: I will release soon the first dev image using this :) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!!

by Benoit St-Jean

A mailing for me please... Besides, that way we wouldn't have to deal with the "everybody jumps in the conversation" if the list is private to testers only... ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein) ________________________________ From: Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 4:02:30 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo testers.... WE NEED YOU!!! Do you think we need a mailing list ? Or just copying each person is enough ? I am active in mailing list, but maybe some of you don't. Please let me know what do you prefer as I -almost- have done my first dev image based in 10505 and metacello configurations :) Cheers On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Cool....we are already 13 beta testers :) More than enought :) > >I updated http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/list > >And we almost cover all the conbinations of OS, Browser and type of image :) > >Cheers > >Mariano > > > >On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >> >>On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:50 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >>>Hi Mariano, >>>>>> I don't use dev or web images. I've found the PharoCore more stable, >>>>>>for example now I'm fixing a dependency browser bug in the dev image >>>>>>#10502 (trying a dev after a long time), and clicking with the right >>>>>>button gives me : >>> >>>>>>MessageNotUnderstood: OBTextSelection>>isMethodNode >>> >>> >> >>Yes, this is issue: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1182 >> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>but isn't just that bug, I've never worked 30 minutes with the dev/web >>>>>>images without interaction bugs. I wonder what happens with Smalltalk >>>>>>and Pharo newcomers when these bugs appears, but there's no survey >>>>>>system for Pharo users so no one can't figure out anyway. Well, >>>>>>fortunately there are no too many public word of mouth recommendation >>>>>>systems yet :) >>> >> >> >>HernÃ¡n: I agreee 100%. All of what you describe is what I said in the email with subject "We need to do something, seriously, ..." >> >>And that's exactly what I proposed to do this stuff about the beta testers. >> >>Cheers >> >>Mariano >> >>>>>Cheers, >>> >>>>>>HernÃ¡n >>> >>>>>>2010/1/1 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>>> Sorry, I realize something. Maybe it would be cool also if you tell us if >>>>>>> you use web or dev. I happens also several times that the seaside >>>>>>> installation, or pier or whatever are not working very well. So...it would >>>>>>> be cool to have both testers :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have access to the wiki, just add your self on it. If you don't have >>>>>>> access ask to Adrian and he will give you. Finally you can put it here and >>>>>>> then I put it in the wiki. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mariano >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck >>>>>>> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok.....I collect all the information here: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ListOfBetaTesters >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Feel free to add something else. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The only thing we need now is Damien's answer...maybe he is in holidays, I >>>>>>>> don't know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The last thing I would like to propose is that when we have a new image to >>>>>>>> test, not only we send the email to the mailing list but also cc to each of >>>>>>>> us. There is a lot of traffic (fortunately!!) in Pharo mailing list and not >>>>>>>> all the people here keeps truck for it every day. So, I think having them in >>>>>>>> cc is a good idea. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> M >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 12:41 AM, Miguel CobÃ¡ <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > So...here is the list, if you offer yourself, it would be cool to know: >>>>>>>>> > OS, >>>>>>>>> > VM version, Dev or Web, browser you usually work, 32 o 64 bits, >>>>>>>>> > I will then collect this and I will put it in the wiki. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > - Mariano Martinez Peck. Mac OS, Squeak 4.2.2beta1U.app, Dev, OB, 32 >>>>>>>>> > bits >>>>>>>>> > - Stan Shepherd >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > WHO ELSE IS IN THE LIST ?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Me too. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Miguel CobÃ¡, Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze (testing), Pharo0.1 of 16 May >>>>>>>>> 2008 [latest update: #10074], Web, OB, 32 bits >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > cheers and happy new year!! >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Feliz aÃ±o tambiÃ©n Mariano. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Miguel CobÃ¡ >>>>>>>>> http://miguel.leugim.com.mx >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>>Pharo-project mailing list >>>Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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Jan. 7, 2010