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Re: [Pharo-project] Nanosecond-level profiling in Pharo?

by Esteban Lorenzano

Some times I wanted smaller grain for running tests... but most of the time millis are good enough :) On 2010-01-07 18:52:16 -0300, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> said: > Hi! > > I am currently working on a new profiler for Pharo. The idea is to > graphically renders a profiling using Mondrian. I hope to release it > soon. > When discussing with an expert in the field (Walter Binder), the > question about time grain was raised. I am partly based on > MessageTally, which has a millisecond grain. Anyone is aware of a > finer grain? At the level of nanosecond? Does it makes sense since > there is no JIT (yet)? > > Cheers, > Alexandre

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Interim build server update

by Benoit St-Jean

While we're at it, a nice addition to this would be to identify the platform (Win, Mac, Linux, etc...). Sometimes, you get surprises on some platforms... :) ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein) ________________________________ From: Michael Roberts <mike(a)mjr104.co.uk> To: Pharo-project <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Thu, January 7, 2010 5:36:11 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] Interim build server update a simple test report for PharoCore 1.1 is now automatically published at http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/experimental/ what do you think? I would propose to remove the google wiki test entries (for 1.1) and point them here. cheers, Mike _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet ExplorerÂ® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Nanosecond-level profiling in Pharo?

by Alexandre Bergel

Ok, good to know. Thanks Igor, Alexandre On 7 Jan 2010, at 19:29, Igor Stasenko wrote: > 2010/1/7 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >> Hi! >> >> I am currently working on a new profiler for Pharo. The idea is to >> graphically renders a profiling using Mondrian. I hope to release it >> soon. >> When discussing with an expert in the field (Walter Binder), the >> question about time grain was raised. I am partly based on >> MessageTally, which has a millisecond grain. Anyone is aware of a >> finer grain? At the level of nanosecond? Does it makes sense since >> there is no JIT (yet)? >> > > AFAIK, there's no primitives in VM, which provide timing with > nanosecond precision. > > >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 7, 2010

[Pharo-project] Interim build server update

by Michael Roberts

a simple test report for PharoCore 1.1 is now automatically published at http://pharo.gforge.inria.fr/experimental/ what do you think? I would propose to remove the google wiki test entries (for 1.1) and point them here. cheers, Mike

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Nanosecond-level profiling in Pharo?

by Igor Stasenko

2010/1/7 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > Hi! > > I am currently working on a new profiler for Pharo. The idea is to > graphically renders a profiling using Mondrian. I hope to release it > soon. > When discussing with an expert in the field (Walter Binder), the > question about time grain was raised. I am partly based on > MessageTally, which has a millisecond grain. Anyone is aware of a > finer grain? At the level of nanosecond? Does it makes sense since > there is no JIT (yet)? > AFAIK, there's no primitives in VM, which provide timing with nanosecond precision. > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel Â http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Metacello configurations for Pharo.

by Alexandre Bergel

> Yes, I agree. But don't worry. Esteban Lorenzano is working exatly > in that. You will be able to do: > > Loader load: 'Pharo' version: '1.0' and wala!! > > (Esteban, correct me if I am wrong). Excellent! > However, this is yet in development and we are not even sure if this > architecture will be the choosen one. We are just trying to see what > we can doo. Yes, I perfectly guessed this. alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Metacello configurations for Pharo.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > Great! > > On Jan 7, 2010, at 22:19 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Michael Roberts <mike(a)mjr104.co.uk> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> if you can give me a script to load the stable (blessed?) version of > >> ConfigurationOfPharo I will try and add it to the interim build > >> server. > >> > > > > Sure. Take the latest PharoCore 10505 image and evaluate > > > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfPharo'; > > load. > > > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharo) project version: '1.0- > > rc2.10505') > > load. > > In a 10505 image I get the following warning: > > This package depends on the following classes: > OBCodeBrowser > OBCommand > You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load > these definitions: > OBCmdMetacello > OBCmdMetacello>>chooseVersion:message: > OBCmdMetacello>>commitPackageSpec:into:with: > OBCmdMetacello>>currentVersion > ...etc > > Thanks for reporting Adrian. I should have told about that. That's something with Metacello that when it ensure that Metacello is installed, it tries to install a version that has not only the core but also all the tools. Those tools depends on OB...so.But Metacello in itself is working, no problem. I gave the idea to Dale last week to change this so that ensureMetacello just loads the core (without tools) and he was agree. So I hope next Metacello version will have this and that warning will disappear. Even more...it has already been fixed: http://code.google.com/p/metacello/issues/detail?id=33&can=1&q=ensureMetace… cheers Mariano ps: There is another version about some tests...sorry, those are the OB tests (BogusTestCase) and I don't know why it depends on soemthing I don't know what it is...if someone can help me :) > Cheers, > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 7, 2010

[Pharo-project] Nanosecond-level profiling in Pharo?

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! I am currently working on a new profiler for Pharo. The idea is to graphically renders a profiling using Mondrian. I hope to release it soon. When discussing with an expert in the field (Walter Binder), the question about time grain was raised. I am partly based on MessageTally, which has a millisecond grain. Anyone is aware of a finer grain? At the level of nanosecond? Does it makes sense since there is no JIT (yet)? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Screencast in mac?

by James Foster

On Jan 7, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Johan" == Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> writes: > > Johan> hot on the tail of Stans mail: I want to do some screencasts on a mac, > Johan> maybe without audio. Good experiences anyone? > > Very happy with ScreenFlow, which not only captures full screen at full speed > (without ever missing a frame), also has a great video editing suite built in, > and can handle nice HD videos for Vimeo and Youtube HD. > > Yeah, it's $100 but worth it. At Randal's suggestion (some time ago), I got ScreenFlow and have been very happy with it. James > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > <merlyn(a)stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 7, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Metacello configurations for Pharo.

by Adrian Lienhard

Great! On Jan 7, 2010, at 22:19 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Michael Roberts <mike(a)mjr104.co.uk> > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> if you can give me a script to load the stable (blessed?) version of >> ConfigurationOfPharo I will try and add it to the interim build >> server. >> > > Sure. Take the latest PharoCore 10505 image and evaluate > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPharo'; > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharo) project version: '1.0- > rc2.10505') > load. In a 10505 image I get the following warning: This package depends on the following classes: OBCodeBrowser OBCommand You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: OBCmdMetacello OBCmdMetacello>>chooseVersion:message: OBCmdMetacello>>commitPackageSpec:into:with: OBCmdMetacello>>currentVersion ...etc Cheers, Adrian

Jan. 7, 2010