January 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] Issue 1755 ready to integrate

by Mariano Martinez Peck

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1755 cheers mariano

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems with Strike fonts

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Adrian Lienhard <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: > It seems that emphasized strike fonts do not render properly? > > Anyway, we planned to put back the FreeType deja vu fonts for the > Pharo image (but keep the strike fonts installed for PharoCore). Since > syntax highlighting is only delivered with Pharo, the problem will not > be apparent anymore. > > Yes, I know. However StrikeFonts seems to be much more faster than TrueTypes. So, for now it is at you say. However, it would be cool if we can detect the problems with StrikeFOnts, fix them and maybe in a future out them also on PharoDev. Cheers Mariano > Adrian > > On Jan 8, 2010, at 15:11 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Thanks Stef, I wanted to see if you were paying attention ;) > > > > hahahah > > > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Alexandre Bergel > > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > > > >> No screenshto attached > >> > >> Alexandre > >> > >> > >> On 8 Jan 2010, at 10:43, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> > >>> Weeks ago Lukas reported an issue with StrikeFonts width. I don't > >>> know if it is the same, but in the latest dev with StrikeFonts > >>> (pharo1.0-10502-rc1dev09.12.2) you cannot even understand the text. > >>> > >>> Look the attached screenshot ? What do you think it says ? > >>> > >>> Ok, it says: "OCompleti" > >>> > >>> I am the only one that see that ? > >>> > >>> cheers > >>> > >>> mariano > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Pharo-project mailing list > >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > >> -- > >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > <Picture 2.png>_______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Method cache

by Alexandre Bergel

This is what I expected. Thanks Igor, Alexandre On 8 Jan 2010, at 11:23, Igor Stasenko wrote: > 2010/1/8 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: >> Hi! >> >> I think I already know the answer, but I would like to ask still. Is >> there a way in Pharo to know about cache misses? Is there a way to >> know about the method cache within the image? I guess no. Would it be >> hard to add this information? >> > > This is a 'magic' which sits deeply in VM. > Image-side stuff should not care about it much, since it is > implementation specific. > Mainly, because VM could employ different cache strategies , and by > not exposing it, we making sure that > we could change it at any moment. Especially , if we think about JIT > and method inlining... > >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems with Strike fonts

by Adrian Lienhard

It seems that emphasized strike fonts do not render properly? Anyway, we planned to put back the FreeType deja vu fonts for the Pharo image (but keep the strike fonts installed for PharoCore). Since syntax highlighting is only delivered with Pharo, the problem will not be apparent anymore. Adrian On Jan 8, 2010, at 15:11 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Thanks Stef, I wanted to see if you were paying attention ;) > > hahahah > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > >> No screenshto attached >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 8 Jan 2010, at 10:43, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> Weeks ago Lukas reported an issue with StrikeFonts width. I don't >>> know if it is the same, but in the latest dev with StrikeFonts >>> (pharo1.0-10502-rc1dev09.12.2) you cannot even understand the text. >>> >>> Look the attached screenshot ? What do you think it says ? >>> >>> Ok, it says: "OCompleti" >>> >>> I am the only one that see that ? >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> mariano >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > <Picture 2.png>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Method cache

by Igor Stasenko

2010/1/8 Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>: > Hi! > > I think I already know the answer, but I would like to ask still. Is > there a way in Pharo to know about cache misses? Is there a way to > know about the method cache within the image? I guess no. Would it be > hard to add this information? > This is a 'magic' which sits deeply in VM. Image-side stuff should not care about it much, since it is implementation specific. Mainly, because VM could employ different cache strategies , and by not exposing it, we making sure that we could change it at any moment. Especially , if we think about JIT and method inlining... > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel Â http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Jan. 8, 2010

[Pharo-project] Method cache

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi! I think I already know the answer, but I would like to ask still. Is there a way in Pharo to know about cache misses? Is there a way to know about the method cache within the image? I guess no. Would it be hard to add this information? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems with Strike fonts

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Thanks Stef, I wanted to see if you were paying attention ;) hahahah On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > No screenshto attached > > Alexandre > > > On 8 Jan 2010, at 10:43, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > Weeks ago Lukas reported an issue with StrikeFonts width. I don't > > know if it is the same, but in the latest dev with StrikeFonts > > (pharo1.0-10502-rc1dev09.12.2) you cannot even understand the text. > > > > Look the attached screenshot ? What do you think it says ? > > > > Ok, it says: "OCompleti" > > > > I am the only one that see that ? > > > > cheers > > > > mariano > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems with Strike fonts

by Alexandre Bergel

No screenshto attached Alexandre On 8 Jan 2010, at 10:43, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Weeks ago Lukas reported an issue with StrikeFonts width. I don't > know if it is the same, but in the latest dev with StrikeFonts > (pharo1.0-10502-rc1dev09.12.2) you cannot even understand the text. > > Look the attached screenshot ? What do you think it says ? > > Ok, it says: "OCompleti" > > I am the only one that see that ? > > cheers > > mariano > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 8, 2010

[Pharo-project] Problems with Strike fonts

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Weeks ago Lukas reported an issue with StrikeFonts width. I don't know if it is the same, but in the latest dev with StrikeFonts (pharo1.0-10502-rc1dev09.12.2) you cannot even understand the text. Look the attached screenshot ? What do you think it says ? Ok, it says: "OCompleti" I am the only one that see that ? cheers mariano

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Metacello configurations for Pharo.

by Alexandre Bergel

> Loader new descriptionOf: 'Blah'. "Answers the #description metacello > tag for current version" > Loader new descriptionOf: 'Blah' version: '1.0'. "Answers the > #description metacello tag for 1.0 version" > > do you think this is enough? I do not feel so, but this is a good start. You had an excellent initiative. Cheers, Alexandre > > On 2010-01-08 10:26:06 -0300, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> said: > >> A description that could be obtained from the last commit comment for >> example. Or/and the squeaksource description. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 8 Jan 2010, at 10:20, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> And what info do you think it should answer? >>> >>> On 2010-01-08 09:39:31 -0300, Alexandre Bergel >>> <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> said: >>> >>>> Esteban, this is excellent!! >>>> It would be cool to have >>>> >>>> Loader new infoAbout: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 8, 2010