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Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Adrian Lienhard

I like yours as well! Cheers, Adrian On Jan 27, 2010, at 15:20 , Geert Claes wrote: > > Thats almost the same as what I came up with: "Pharo is an open-source > Smalltalk implementation providing a stable and small core system with > excellent developer tools to build and deploy mission critical > applications." > -- > View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/For-those-who-use-Nabble-tp1310998p1311650.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Stan Shepherd

Geert, do you think it would be useful to post this on the other Smalltalk lists as well? Another benefit it that you can now search for answers across the dialects, e.g. http://n4.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?days=0&query=merge+fork&sort=date&for… http://n4.nabble.com/forum/Search.jtp?days=0&query=merge+fork&sort=date&for… ...Stan -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/For-those-who-use-Nabble-tp1310998p1311659.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] ConfigurationOfAida is available

by Adrian Lienhard

Sorry Mariano, apparently I have missed your mail. Esteban: that sounds cool, but it would be nice to have a simple solution that works today! :) Any takers? Cheers, Adrian On Jan 27, 2010, at 12:57 , Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > In fact, that page could be a pier component who scans the repository > data (usign the Loader I'm doing)... I can volunteer to make that > component, but first let me finish the first version of loader :) > > Cheers, > Esteban, backing from vacations > > On 2010-01-27 05:16:16 -0300, Mariano Martinez Peck > <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> said: > >> >> >> Dale: This is really cool. We were just talking about Aida with Stef the >> other day. Thanks a lot. >> >> Adrian: I sent an email like a week ago to ask exactly that. Someone to >> volunteer to update that wiki page with all the metacello repositotory >> information...but I got no answers. >> >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Adrian Lienhard >> <adi(a)netstyle.ch> wrote: >> >>> Wow, its great to see all those configurations of external packages coming >>> in! >>> >>> I think we need a way to catalog them now. Do we have somebody that likes >>> to help maintaining this? My idea is to start small, i.e., with a wiki page >>> similar to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PackagesTestedInPharo. We >>> could have two categories, one "testing" and one "stable". New >>> configurations start with testing and when they are known to work and their >>> tests pass etc. we move them to "stable". >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Adrian >>> >>> On Jan 27, 2010, at 04:22 , Dale Henrichs wrote: >>> >>>> Gofer new >>>> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfAida'; >>>> load. >>>> >>>> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfAida) project version: '6.0') load. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> Dale:=A0 This is really cool. We were just talking about Aida with Stef the= >> other day. Thanks a lot. <br><br>Adrian: I sent an email like a week ago t= >> o ask exactly that. Someone to volunteer to update that wiki page with all = >> the metacello repositotory information...but I got no answers.<br> >> <br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Adrian Lien= >> hard <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a >> href=3D"mailto:adi@netstyle.ch">adi(a)netstyle.= > ch</a>></span> >> >> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"bord= >> er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-l= >> eft: 1ex;"> >> Wow, its great to see all those configurations of external packages coming = >> in!<br> >> <br> >> I think we need a way to catalog them now. Do we have somebody that likes t= >> o help maintaining this? My idea is to start small, i.e., with a wiki page = >> similar to <a href=3D"http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PackagesTestedInP= >> haro" target=3D"_blank">http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PackagesTestedI= >> nPharo</a>. We could have two categories, one "testing" and one &= >> quot;stable". New configurations start with testing and when they are = >> known to work and their tests pass etc. we move them to "stable".= >> <br> >> >> <br> >> Cheers,<br> >> <font color=3D"#888888">Adrian<br> >> </font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br> >> On Jan 27, 2010, at 04:22 , Dale Henrichs wrote:<br> >> <br> >> > Gofer new<br> >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository';<br> >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0package: 'ConfigurationOfAida';<br> >> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0load.<br> >> ><br> >> > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfAida) project version: '6.0') = >> load.<br> >> ><br> >> > _______________________________________________<br> >> > Pharo-project mailing list<br> >> > <a >> href=3D"mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr">Pharo-project@l= > ists.gforge.inria.fr</a><br> > > >> >> <a href=3D"http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo= >> -project" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/li= >> stinfo/pharo-project</a><br> >> <br> >> <br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> Pharo-project mailing list<br> >> <a >> href=3D"mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr">Pharo-project(a)lists.= > gforge.inria.fr</a><br> > <a >> >> href=3D"http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-proj= >> ect" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf= >> o/pharo-project</a><br> >> </div></div></blockquote></div><br> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Geert Claes

Thats almost the same as what I came up with: "Pharo is an open-source Smalltalk implementation providing a stable and small core system with excellent developer tools to build and deploy mission critical applications." -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/For-those-who-use-Nabble-tp1310998p1311650.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] For those who use Nabble ....

by Adrian Lienhard

sure, here is one sentence: "Pharo provides a clean and innovative MIT-licensed Smalltalk environment with a stable and small core system, excellent developer tools, and maintained releases." Adrian On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:05 , Geert Claes wrote: > > > Adrian Lienhard wrote: >> >> Geert, would it be possible to update the description of Pharo that >> currently reads "Pharo is a fork from the Squeak open-source Smalltalk."? >> >> I suggest: "Pharo's goal is to deliver a clean, innovative, free >> open-source Smalltalk environment. By providing a stable and small core >> system, excellent developer tools, and maintained releases, Pharo is an >> attractive platform to build and deploy mission critical Smalltalk >> applications. Pharo is MIT licensed and fosters a healthy ecosystem of >> both private and commercial contributors." >> > > Sure, but how about a brief "one sentence" description rather than the > complete mission statement? > > Just added some logo's: http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.html > http://n4.nabble.com/Smalltalk-f1294792.html > -- > View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/For-those-who-use-Nabble-tp1310998p1311364.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in NetNameResolver on PharoCore 10508?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Probably. We need to ensure that all of the IPv6 primitives are protected with #useOldNetwork, and they are not at present. I started to split NetNameResolver into absract base and 4/6-specific subclasses, but was distracted from it. Something like that would help a lot. Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 9:00 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in NetNameResolver on PharoCore 10508? Yes, I can reproduce it in my Mac Os box...however, wasn't it the same problem of the network that we already have ? NetNameResolver useOldNetwork etc .. ? 2010/1/27 Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com<mailto:miguel.coba@gmail.com>> El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 17:14 -0600, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez escribiÃ³: > Hi all, > > yesterday, in some of that "why did I do that today" I decided to add a > partition to my ext3 fs over LUKS encrypted over LVM over disk > partitions Debian install. Well, things went far from ok, and the result > I lost all the information (it is really encrypted, :(). I had a backup > so nothing important was lost. Or that I thought. Because after > reinstalling and trying to install the squeakvm I noticed that the > squeak vm .deb file from: > > http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-linux_i386.deb > > is not more available. I'm sure there are good reasons to remove that > file. But for me that was the squeak vm that I was using (and the one > you reach if you follow the links from pharo-download page and the one > you'll try to download if you use a Debian derived distro...). > > The case is that isn't available. So I got the tar.gz for i386 (there > isn't amd64 package, but I have ia32-libs installed): > > http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-linux_i386.tar.gz > > and by using this vm I have a problem that I hadn't before: > > In a PharoCore 10508 image evaluate this: > > NetNameResolver addressForName: 'www.yahoo.com<http://www.yahoo.com>' > > I get: > > Error: primitive has failed > > in NetNameResolver class>>primGetNameInfo:flags > > Also > > NetNameResolver primGetNameInfoHostSize > > gives the same error but in: > > in NetNameResolver class>>primGetNameInfoHostSize. > > First I though that was the change of vm but then, using the same vm I > opened an old image: > > Pharo1.0beta > Latest update: #10454 > > and there all works correctly. > > Can someone confirm this bug so that I can add an issue in the traker. > > Or maybe point to something that I am doing wrong. > > I repeat, the data: > > vm: 3.11.3-2135 #1 XShm Wed Sep 16 14:25:10 PDT 2009 gcc 4.3.3 > image: PharoCore 10508 > result: failed > > vm: 3.11.3-2135 #1 XShm Wed Sep 16 14:25:10 PDT 2009 gcc 4.3.3 > image: PharoCore 10454 > result: worked > > Thanks Anybody can confirm? or is only me? -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] [ANN] PDF of Dynamic Web Development with Seaside

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Maybe add a post in the news section of the pharo website ? and also in the news section of the ESUG website ? Thanks and congratulations for such effort. Mariano On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The PDF version of the book "Dynamic Web Development with Seaside" is > available for download now: > > http://book.seaside.st/book/introduction/pdf-book > > At the end of the payment process (PayPal) you will be redirected to > the download area where you are able to get the latest builds of the > PDF version of the book. If you bookmark the page you will be able to > download fixes and extra chapters as we integrate them into the online > version. By buying the PDF version you support our hard work on the > book. > > We wish to thank the European Smalltalk User Group (ESUG), > inceptive.be, Cincom Smalltalk and GemStone Smalltalk for generously > sponsoring this book. We are looking for additional sponsors. If you > are interested, please contact us. If you are a publisher and > interested in publishing this material, please let us know. > > Please distribute this message widely. > > Cheers, > Stef & Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > >

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in NetNameResolver on PharoCore 10508?

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

NetNameResolver definitely containts at least one bug related to IPv6 code being called when it should not be. I am trying to adapt to the imaging building changes, so I can't easily confirm your details at this point, but there are problems with the code. I have encountered it on both Linux and Windows, the latter being more machine-specific, perhaps due to the particular version of the OS, presence of vm software, and other confounding factors unrelated to Pharo. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 8:50 AM To: pharo Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in NetNameResolver on PharoCore 10508? El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 17:14 -0600, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez escribiÃ³: > Hi all, > > yesterday, in some of that "why did I do that today" I decided to add > a partition to my ext3 fs over LUKS encrypted over LVM over disk > partitions Debian install. Well, things went far from ok, and the > result I lost all the information (it is really encrypted, :(). I had > a backup so nothing important was lost. Or that I thought. Because > after reinstalling and trying to install the squeakvm I noticed that > the squeak vm .deb file from: > > http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-linux_i386.deb > > is not more available. I'm sure there are good reasons to remove that > file. But for me that was the squeak vm that I was using (and the one > you reach if you follow the links from pharo-download page and the one > you'll try to download if you use a Debian derived distro...). > > The case is that isn't available. So I got the tar.gz for i386 (there > isn't amd64 package, but I have ia32-libs installed): > > http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-linux_i386.tar.gz > > and by using this vm I have a problem that I hadn't before: > > In a PharoCore 10508 image evaluate this: > > NetNameResolver addressForName: 'www.yahoo.com' > > I get: > > Error: primitive has failed > > in NetNameResolver class>>primGetNameInfo:flags > > Also > > NetNameResolver primGetNameInfoHostSize > > gives the same error but in: > > in NetNameResolver class>>primGetNameInfoHostSize. > > First I though that was the change of vm but then, using the same vm I > opened an old image: > > Pharo1.0beta > Latest update: #10454 > > and there all works correctly. > > Can someone confirm this bug so that I can add an issue in the traker. > > Or maybe point to something that I am doing wrong. > > I repeat, the data: > > vm: 3.11.3-2135 #1 XShm Wed Sep 16 14:25:10 PDT 2009 gcc 4.3.3 > image: PharoCore 10508 > result: failed > > vm: 3.11.3-2135 #1 XShm Wed Sep 16 14:25:10 PDT 2009 gcc 4.3.3 > image: PharoCore 10454 > result: worked > > Thanks Anybody can confirm? or is only me? -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in NetNameResolver on PharoCore 10508?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Yes, I can reproduce it in my Mac Os box...however, wasn't it the same problem of the network that we already have ? NetNameResolver useOldNetwork etc .. ? 2010/1/27 Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez <miguel.coba(a)gmail.com> > El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 17:14 -0600, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez > escribiÃ³: > > Hi all, > > > > yesterday, in some of that "why did I do that today" I decided to add a > > partition to my ext3 fs over LUKS encrypted over LVM over disk > > partitions Debian install. Well, things went far from ok, and the result > > I lost all the information (it is really encrypted, :(). I had a backup > > so nothing important was lost. Or that I thought. Because after > > reinstalling and trying to install the squeakvm I noticed that the > > squeak vm .deb file from: > > > > http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-linux_i386.deb > > > > is not more available. I'm sure there are good reasons to remove that > > file. But for me that was the squeak vm that I was using (and the one > > you reach if you follow the links from pharo-download page and the one > > you'll try to download if you use a Debian derived distro...). > > > > The case is that isn't available. So I got the tar.gz for i386 (there > > isn't amd64 package, but I have ia32-libs installed): > > > > http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-linux_i386.tar.gz > > > > and by using this vm I have a problem that I hadn't before: > > > > In a PharoCore 10508 image evaluate this: > > > > NetNameResolver addressForName: 'www.yahoo.com' > > > > I get: > > > > Error: primitive has failed > > > > in NetNameResolver class>>primGetNameInfo:flags > > > > Also > > > > NetNameResolver primGetNameInfoHostSize > > > > gives the same error but in: > > > > in NetNameResolver class>>primGetNameInfoHostSize. > > > > First I though that was the change of vm but then, using the same vm I > > opened an old image: > > > > Pharo1.0beta > > Latest update: #10454 > > > > and there all works correctly. > > > > Can someone confirm this bug so that I can add an issue in the traker. > > > > Or maybe point to something that I am doing wrong. > > > > I repeat, the data: > > > > vm: 3.11.3-2135 #1 XShm Wed Sep 16 14:25:10 PDT 2009 gcc 4.3.3 > > image: PharoCore 10508 > > result: failed > > > > vm: 3.11.3-2135 #1 XShm Wed Sep 16 14:25:10 PDT 2009 gcc 4.3.3 > > image: PharoCore 10454 > > result: worked > > > > Thanks > > Anybody can confirm? or is only me? > > -- > Miguel CobÃ¡ > http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug in NetNameResolver on PharoCore 10508?

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez

El mar, 26-01-2010 a las 17:14 -0600, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez escribiÃ³: > Hi all, > > yesterday, in some of that "why did I do that today" I decided to add a > partition to my ext3 fs over LUKS encrypted over LVM over disk > partitions Debian install. Well, things went far from ok, and the result > I lost all the information (it is really encrypted, :(). I had a backup > so nothing important was lost. Or that I thought. Because after > reinstalling and trying to install the squeakvm I noticed that the > squeak vm .deb file from: > > http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-linux_i386.deb > > is not more available. I'm sure there are good reasons to remove that > file. But for me that was the squeak vm that I was using (and the one > you reach if you follow the links from pharo-download page and the one > you'll try to download if you use a Debian derived distro...). > > The case is that isn't available. So I got the tar.gz for i386 (there > isn't amd64 package, but I have ia32-libs installed): > > http://squeakvm.org/unix/release/Squeak-3.11.3.2135-linux_i386.tar.gz > > and by using this vm I have a problem that I hadn't before: > > In a PharoCore 10508 image evaluate this: > > NetNameResolver addressForName: 'www.yahoo.com' > > I get: > > Error: primitive has failed > > in NetNameResolver class>>primGetNameInfo:flags > > Also > > NetNameResolver primGetNameInfoHostSize > > gives the same error but in: > > in NetNameResolver class>>primGetNameInfoHostSize. > > First I though that was the change of vm but then, using the same vm I > opened an old image: > > Pharo1.0beta > Latest update: #10454 > > and there all works correctly. > > Can someone confirm this bug so that I can add an issue in the traker. > > Or maybe point to something that I am doing wrong. > > I repeat, the data: > > vm: 3.11.3-2135 #1 XShm Wed Sep 16 14:25:10 PDT 2009 gcc 4.3.3 > image: PharoCore 10508 > result: failed > > vm: 3.11.3-2135 #1 XShm Wed Sep 16 14:25:10 PDT 2009 gcc 4.3.3 > image: PharoCore 10454 > result: worked > > Thanks Anybody can confirm? or is only me? -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

Jan. 27, 2010