January 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Cannot merge anymore in PharoCore 11140

by Marcus Denker

On Jan 8, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Yes, puting again that method it works. > > Marcus we should check because maybe with the move of 11140 or 11139 we loose more methods. > We just discovered that because we saw it, but maybe there are other problems. Could you check ? > fixed with update 11143 Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Jan. 8, 2010

[Pharo-project] [update 1.1] #11143

by Marcus Denker

Issue 1759: lost methods after 11140

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Interim build server update

by Michael Roberts

Simon thanks for looking. next steps: -bullet proof it -export error log files -hudson -host on community server -developers use results to FIX BUGS QUICKLY nice to have: -certainly a fancy history web interface -stats, etc however i must shout about fixing bugs, because surely the most beautiful test result page is one that is blank! seriously, we need as a community to get new bugs fixed early. to me that is the whole point. thanks, Mike On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:25 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Now that the log file on failure is appened to the previous log > I think that we should pay attention or explicitly have the possibility to write a fresh one. > Because we can have a problem: I got some 5 mb log file. > Stef - yes, next I am integrating a specific error file per build report. should solve the problem. we will have to see in practice.

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Problems with Strike fonts

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

are you suggesting that we load your DejaVu package in pharodev? On Jan 8, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Alain Plantec wrote: > Mariano Martinez Peck a Ã©crit : >> Thanks Henrik. However, I tried what you told me and still is ugly :( > maybe you could try with the dejavu from www.squeaksource.com/DejaVu > Alain >> >> Any idea? >> >> Thanks >> >> Mariano > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Happy New Year...

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Thanks Sheridan and the same to you....now, how did you know I am Argentinian (I read your website) ;) On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 8:46 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > welcome > and good year. I decided that I will look at it positively :) > :) > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > This note is just to wish everyone all the best in the New Year, and good > > luck with all that appears on the horizon... > > > > As I am a relative newcomer, and haven't had the opportunity yet to > > introduce > > myself, I wanted to invite anyone curious or interested, to visit my > (mostly > > empty) > > website. I've uploaded an open Christmas letter where you can find > various > > bit of news and goings-on in my life these days. > > > > Here's the link: > > > > www.sheridan-mahoney.com > > > > Cheers, and > > Best regards, > > > > Sheri Mahoney > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Happy-New-Year-tp4274343p4274343.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Hudson continuous integration server support

by Lukas Renggli

> I don't see why... you'd just have to do a build for stage A and then one > for B (which also goes through A) and so one. You're doing "unnecessary" > work, I suppose, by going through A multiple times, but you're also testing > that you have a correct dependency specification in the process. I really don't want to repeat the same build multiple times. Downloading and installing Monticello files is just dead slow. It takes 15 minutes to load all OmniBrowser packages, 20 minutes for the Seaside 3.0 packages, and 26 minutes for Seaside 2.8, Magritte and Pier. It's an old machine, but I don't expect it to work the whole night to build a few images. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Jan. 8, 2010

[Pharo-project] GUI how to screencast available

by laurent laffont

Hi, as I'm beginning to understand how to write a GUI in Pharo, I've made a screencast to show basic layout techniques with panels and buttons: http://vimeo.com/8619593 (or on my blog :) with source code http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2010/01/gui-et-pharo.html ) It seems that several people have or plan to record screencasts on Pharo. If you can send me links, I can put all of them on a single blog. For example http://pharocasts.org ;). Cheers, Laurent

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] About my recursive blues :)

by Gary Chambers

Magic The Gathering... guess we'll be losing you for some time ;-) (it is rather compelling). Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "StÃ©phane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] About my recursive blues :) >> To this point you have done what you have done. Now, to my mind at least, >> if you could work out a way to bring the Squeak Trunk and Pharo forks, >> and other developments like Keith's important work with Sake/Packages and >> Bob the Builder, together so that so terribly much effort is not being >> wasted doing the same things over and over again, you will really have >> accomplished something. > > We will try but it takes a lot of energy. Also because Squeak is redoing a > lot of the fixes/changes we did nearly one year > ago. Now we will try to check the important changes. > >> And remember too that the most important thing you can give your children >> is your undivided time and attention. All too soon they will be grown up >> and on their own. > > I will :) I'm starting to play Magic The gathering with them :) > and pharo is a kind of child too :) > >> If you find yourself often saying things like, "Not now, Daddy's too >> busy.", pretty soon you will find they will stop coming around. >> >> Ken G. Brown >> >> At 9:37 PM +0100 1/6/10, pharo-project-request(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> apparently wrote: >>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 21:13:24 +0100 >>> From: St?phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>> Subject: [Pharo-project] About my recursive blues :) >>> To: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Development" >>> <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> Message-ID: <B0480EF9-3F1E-4B48-A4FE-A31834C97557(a)inria.fr> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> Sometimes I'm not in good mood. Today I was in a bad bad mood. Quite bad >>> even badder. >>> I was wondering why I was doing all that and the rest. What was the use >>> to do Pharo >>> if we get Squeak doing exactly the same - Ok we were right long time ago >>> but still seeing all the removal of >>> crappy code we begged to be removed and got bashed for and also doing >>> all that effort and seeing it redone >>> was not helping. Being right sometimes is not even cool :) So a plain >>> bad day.... cold and rainy. >>> I was frustrated that I cannot be somebody else, doing stuff full time >>> and no other duties >>> and going faster. In short nothing was working and I was a frustation >>> ball like I'm good at being. >>> >>> But my kids were there and we had to go swimming! After going swimming >>> and not thinking then thinking >>> and discussing with some remote friends and emails. (Thanks guys you >>> know who you are) also thinking about other >>> people's attention and remarks in other contexts, my good mood came back >>> even stronger than before >>> because I came up to the conclusion that my remote friends were right >>> (BTW thanks pharoers some of you inspire me today >>> during my bad mood - alain, henrik, danny, lukas...) >>> So what is the conclusion of all that? >>> >>> - I have a cool job (one of the best research positions in europe - not >>> easy everyday >>> but cool and with people supporting me with my crazy idea....imagine >>> coding in smalltalk >>> building an international team doing smalltalkish stuff). >>> >>> - we can invest for 5 years or even 10. Close your eyes and imagine we >>> can decide now what >>> we want to do now for the next 10 years and do it because we decided >>> that this is fun. >>> Amazing. No clients, no venture guys telling us the truth of life. >>> >>> - To a friend to which I was saying that I'm not that smart, that guy >>> told me that smart is not the only measure: you can measure your impact, >>> the books you wrote, the energy that other people took and got inspired >>> and all kind of other measures.... :) >>> >>> So I can tell you I was down but this is good because I could think >>> about what I really want to do. >>> And I want to have an innovative Smalltalk system that can be used to >>> develop business and innovative. >>> (for example I would like to see if the new event system can be used to >>> save Genie - one of the coolest >>> handwriting recognition system I see). >>> So I will not be extra-smart but I will learn and I will do it bit by >>> bit. And I want to make it fun and beautiful. >>> May be we will be able to go faster (it depends mainly on you guys :)) >>> but I want 10 years or 15 or even 20 >>> years of fun with a cool system and it is there in my hand (at three >>> keystrokes from my keuboard). >>> We will build it. >>> >>> Stef (sorry for the one of you that have to listen my bad mood I'm >>> curing myself). >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Happy New Year...

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

welcome and good year. I decided that I will look at it positively :) :) > > > Hi all, > > This note is just to wish everyone all the best in the New Year, and good > luck with all that appears on the horizon... > > As I am a relative newcomer, and haven't had the opportunity yet to > introduce > myself, I wanted to invite anyone curious or interested, to visit my (mostly > empty) > website. I've uploaded an open Christmas letter where you can find various > bit of news and goings-on in my life these days. > > Here's the link: > > www.sheridan-mahoney.com > > Cheers, and > Best regards, > > Sheri Mahoney > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Happy-New-Year-tp4274343p4274343.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 8, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] about ConfigurationOfXXX

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez

> > Yes, we discussed about having a superclass. The problem is where is > that class? It should be in the "core" of Pharo, Squeak, Gemstone. See > this thread: > > http://groups.google.com/group/metacello/browse_thread/thread/c056f4e44e452… > > Could someone please ilustrate the usage and examples , and > maybe put it on the Pharo Web Page. Specially because it > seems to be the standard way of loading monticello projects > now. Why don't make the bootstrap process to self compile the required class in the hosting environments. This way the hosting environment musn't have anything about Metacello but it can compile/install the required classes as the first steps of the bootstrap process. Or maybe I'm talking nuts :) Cheers -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

Jan. 8, 2010