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Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Video Course on Smalltalk

by Davide Varvello

That's fine. Thanks Davide > >From: laurent laffont [via Smalltalk] <ml-node+1312159-776791312(a)n4.nabble.com> >To: Davide Varvello <varvello(a)yahoo.com> >Sent: Wed, January 27, 2010 10:12:25 PM >Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Video Course on Smalltalk > >> >Davide, > > >It's here: http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/01/video-course-on-smalltalk.html > > >If you want to change something, tell me. > > >Cheers > > >Laurent. > > >On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Davide Varvello <[hidden email]> wrote: > > >>>>Of course. >>>>Davide >> >> >> >>>>laurent laffont wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Can I put the preview on http://pharocasts.blogspot.com with a link to >>>>> your website ? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Laurent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Davide Varvello <[hidden email]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I apologize for this brief announcement, but I'm really happy to tell you >>>>>> that I've been working on a video course on Smalltalk. Now the first >>>>>> video >>>>>> is available and all the lessons can be pre-ordered here >>>>>> http://it.thinkcode.tv/catalogo/programmare-in-smalltalk/ >>>>>> Actually the course is in Italian, but there will be an English version >>>>>> soon. >>>>>> I mainly use Pharo so the community should be happy :-). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> Davide >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >> >>-- >>>>View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-Video-Course-on-Smalltalk-tp1294842p1311730.html >> >>Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >>>>_______________________________________________ >> >>Pharo-project mailing list >>[hidden email] >>http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > >_______________________________________________ > >Pharo-project mailing list > >[hidden email] >http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >________________________________ >>View message @ http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-Video-Course-on-Smalltalk-tp1294842p1312159.html > >To unsubscribe from Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Video Course on Smalltalk, click here. > > -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-Video-Course-on-Smalltalk-tp1294842p1312220.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] running pharo on iPad

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> ands John let me know whether the device allows one to write JITs or not. I doubt...

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] running pharo on iPad

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 27, 2010, at 10:02 PM, John M McIntosh wrote: > Hey I thought you were taking a break from computers? no just smalltalk, mailing-list and internet :) just writing proposal for getting money :) > > Well there are two questions here. > > (a) What will Apple legal let us do? > > (b) How do you install software, is the App store the only legal way? > > In some respects I think the iPad versus NoteBook is that an iPad appears to be a gated community with Apple as the > gate daemon... yes I have the same impression. People in the lab are buying dell 19 inches (with the same videos than old ibook) and run os X on it. > Obviously running scratch on this would be cool, same for eToys. People who have funding to make that happen likely > should drop me some email. As soon as I can get a hold of the new iPhone/iPad SDK I'll let everyone know feasibility. Cool. > > On 2010-01-27, at 12:52 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi john >> >> do you know if we will be able to install the soft we want on that stuff >> http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ >> I would love to see pharo running on it and that we could program it. >> >> Stef > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > >

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Failing OB tests in Windows (and fix)

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Mariano for debugging this. > > You are welcome. Step by step Pharo tests are getting greener :) > It looks to me that the variable scanCode is indeed only used on > Windows, so I guess it is save to change that. > > I've committed the fix you suggested: > > Thanks!!! > Name: OB-Tests-Morphic-lr.25 > Author: lr > Time: 27 January 2010, 10:20:05 pm > UUID: 0987660a-6184-490a-abc0-8d23352c334f > Ancestors: OB-Tests-Morphic-lr.24 > > - added the suggested fix of mariano for the tests (windows only) > > Lukas > > 2010/1/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > Hi Lukas: There are 4 tests that were failing in Windows and I debugged > > them. The tests are the 4 tests of the class OBKeyBindingsTest > > > > The problem in windows is this. In your tests, you do: > > > > modifier: mod keycode: code > > ^ KeyboardEvent new > > setType: 'keystroke' > > buttons: mod > > position: 123 @ 456 > > keyValue: code > > charCode: code > > hand: nil > > stamp: nil > > > > As you can see, you don't set a codeScan (it is nil). > > > > In Paragraph >> dispatchOnKeyEvent: keyEvent with: typeAheadStream > > > > You do "OSPlatform current virtualKey: keyEvent scanCode." > > > > In mac, everything is ok as it uses the method > > > > OSPlatform >> virtualKey: virtualKeyCode > > "Subclass responsibility to override if necessary" > > ^nil > > > > > > But in Windows, it uses: > > > > virtualKey: virtualKeyCode > > "Win32Platform virtualKey: $C charCode" > > > > (virtualKeyCode <= 90 "$Z charCode" > > and: [virtualKeyCode >= 65 "$A "]) > > ifFalse: [^nil]. > > "#($a $b $c $d $e $f $g $h $i $j $k $l $m $n $o $p $q $r $s $t $u $v > $w > > $x $y $z)" > > > > ^(#($a nil $c $d nil $f $g nil nil nil nil $l $m $n nil $p nil nil $s > > nil nil $v nil $x nil $z) > > at: virtualKeyCode-64) ifNotNil: [:char | char charCode] > > > > > > There, is a DNU as nil (virtualKeyCode) dnu: <= > > > > So, the solution I think is to set a scanCode in the keyEvents you > generate > > in the tests. I don't know which number is correct for each type of > event, > > but I tried just with 0 and tests are green. > > > > modifier: mod keycode: code > > ^ KeyboardEvent new > > setType: 'keystroke' > > buttons: mod > > position: 123 @ 456 > > keyValue: code > > charCode: code > > hand: nil > > stamp: nil; > > scanCode: 0 > > > > > > What do you think? is there a better fix ? > > > > Cheers > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Failing OB tests in Windows (and fix)

by Lukas Renggli

Thank you Mariano for debugging this. It looks to me that the variable scanCode is indeed only used on Windows, so I guess it is save to change that. I've committed the fix you suggested: Name: OB-Tests-Morphic-lr.25 Author: lr Time: 27 January 2010, 10:20:05 pm UUID: 0987660a-6184-490a-abc0-8d23352c334f Ancestors: OB-Tests-Morphic-lr.24 - added the suggested fix of mariano for the tests (windows only) Lukas 2010/1/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Lukas: There are 4 tests that were failing in Windows and I debugged > them. The tests are the 4 tests of the class OBKeyBindingsTest > > The problem in windows is this. In your tests, you do: > > modifier: mod keycode: code > Â Â Â ^ KeyboardEvent new > Â Â Â Â Â Â setType: 'keystroke' > Â Â Â Â Â Â buttons: mod > Â Â Â Â Â Â position: 123 @ 456 > Â Â Â Â Â Â keyValue: code > Â Â Â Â Â Â charCode: code > Â Â Â Â Â Â hand: nil > Â Â Â Â Â Â stamp: nil > > As you can see, you don't set a codeScan (it is nil). > > In Paragraph >> dispatchOnKeyEvent: keyEvent with: typeAheadStream > > You do "OSPlatform current virtualKey: keyEvent scanCode." > > In mac, everything is ok as it uses the method > > OSPlatform >> virtualKey: virtualKeyCode > Â Â Â "Subclass responsibility to override if necessary" > Â Â Â ^nil > > > But in Windows, it uses: > > virtualKey: virtualKeyCode > Â Â Â "Win32Platform virtualKey: $C charCode" > > Â Â Â (virtualKeyCode <=Â 90 "$Z charCode" > Â Â Â Â Â Â and: [virtualKeyCode >=Â 65 "$A "]) > Â Â Â Â Â Â ifFalse: [^nil]. > Â Â Â "#($a $b $c $d $e $f $g $h $i $j $k $l $m $n $o $p $q $r $s $t $u $v $w > $x $y $z)" > > Â Â Â ^(#($a nil $c $d nil $f $g nil nil nil nil $l $m $n nil $p nil nil $s > nil nil $v nil $x nil $z) > Â Â Â Â Â Â at: virtualKeyCode-64) ifNotNil: [:char | char charCode] > > > There, is a DNU as nil (virtualKeyCode)Â Â Â dnu:Â <= > > So, the solution I think is to set a scanCode in the keyEvents you generate > in the tests. I don't know which number is correct for each type of event, > but I tried just with 0 and tests are green. > > modifier: mod keycode: code > Â Â Â ^ KeyboardEvent new > Â Â Â Â Â Â setType: 'keystroke' > Â Â Â Â Â Â buttons: mod > Â Â Â Â Â Â position: 123 @ 456 > Â Â Â Â Â Â keyValue: code > Â Â Â Â Â Â charCode: code > Â Â Â Â Â Â hand: nil > Â Â Â Â Â Â stamp: nil; > scanCode: 0 > > > What do you think? is there a better fix ? > > Cheers > > Mariano > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Fun with ProfStef

by laurent laffont

2010/1/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > 2010/1/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > >> Mariano, >> >> you can download last ProfTest package: >> - contextual menu simplified, IMHO better for a tutorial >> > > I agree. > > >> - I've added "Pharo environment" lesson >> > > Cool. Maybe in this lesson (23) yo can add to the contextual menu also the > inspect it and browse it. what do you think ? This is cool because they see > that the same they are doing from code, you can do it from UI. There is no > difference at all. Both send the same message :) > It's a good idea. I'll try it. > >> - updated some examples + last slide from getting started workspace. >> >> > Excellent. Little detail. You forgot to let the code as code color (without > the comments) > > BTW, where do you keep this workspaces (the text) information ? Just in > case I want to commit something > You haven't do the HowToMakeYourOwnTutorial ?!?!?! :D Take a look at SmalltalkSyntaxTutorial, lessons category methods. Laurent. > > Thanks!!! > > Mariano > > > >> Cheers, >> >> Laurent >> >> >> 2010/1/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> >>> >>> >>> 2010/1/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >>> >>>> >>>> 2010/1/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>>> I forgot to ask.... >>>>> >>>>> Does the DEVImageWorkspaces openGettingStartedWorkspace still make >>>>> sense having ProfStef ? >>>>> >>>>> Can you take a look and "merge" it to ProfStef if there is something >>>>> cool not included by Stef ? :) >>>>> >>>>> I would like to have only one reference form the Pharo welcome >>>>> workspace. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Mariano >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I agree for merging >>>> >>>> I will put these snippets from getting started in ProfStef: >>>> 42 explore >>>> Date today explore >>>> 'abc' asUppercase. >>>> 'Hello World' reverse. >>>> >>>> There's cool comments too. >>>> >>>> >>> Excellent. I will remove then the invocation to that workspace from the >>> next dev image :) >>> >>> >>>> I put global Read & Write on ProfStef so everybody can destroy it :) >>>> >>>> >>> Ok... >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Laurent >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Video Course on Smalltalk

by laurent laffont

Davide, It's here: http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/2010/01/video-course-on-smalltalk.html If you want to change something, tell me. Cheers Laurent. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Davide Varvello <varvello(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Of course. > Davide > > > laurent laffont wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Can I put the preview on http://pharocasts.blogspot.com with a link > to > > your website ? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Laurent > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Davide Varvello <varvello(a)yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I apologize for this brief announcement, but I'm really happy to tell > you > >> that I've been working on a video course on Smalltalk. Now the first > >> video > >> is available and all the lessons can be pre-ordered here > >> http://it.thinkcode.tv/catalogo/programmare-in-smalltalk/ > >> Actually the course is in Italian, but there will be an English version > >> soon. > >> I mainly use Pharo so the community should be happy :-). > >> > >> Thanks > >> Davide > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n4.nabble.com/ANN-Video-Course-on-Smalltalk-tp1294842p1311730.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] running pharo on iPad

by Laval Jannik

It should ! Ipad is compatible with app from ipod/iphone. I need one to test :) Cheers, Jannik On Jan 27, 2010, at 21:52 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi john > > do you know if we will be able to install the soft we want on that stuff > http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ > I would love to see pharo running on it and that we could program it. > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project --- Jannik Laval PhD Student - Rmod Team - INRIA Certified Project Management Associate (IPMA) http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://rmod.lille.inria.fr ---

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Fun with ProfStef

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2010/1/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > Mariano, > > you can download last ProfTest package: > - contextual menu simplified, IMHO better for a tutorial > I agree. > - I've added "Pharo environment" lesson > Cool. Maybe in this lesson (23) yo can add to the contextual menu also the inspect it and browse it. what do you think ? This is cool because they see that the same they are doing from code, you can do it from UI. There is no difference at all. Both send the same message :) > - updated some examples + last slide from getting started workspace. > > Excellent. Little detail. You forgot to let the code as code color (without the comments) BTW, where do you keep this workspaces (the text) information ? Just in case I want to commit something Thanks!!! Mariano > Cheers, > > Laurent > > > 2010/1/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > >> >> >> 2010/1/27 laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >> >>> >>> 2010/1/27 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >>> >>> I forgot to ask.... >>>> >>>> Does the DEVImageWorkspaces openGettingStartedWorkspace still make >>>> sense having ProfStef ? >>>> >>>> Can you take a look and "merge" it to ProfStef if there is something >>>> cool not included by Stef ? :) >>>> >>>> I would like to have only one reference form the Pharo welcome >>>> workspace. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Mariano >>> >>> >>> >>> I agree for merging >>> >>> I will put these snippets from getting started in ProfStef: >>> 42 explore >>> Date today explore >>> 'abc' asUppercase. >>> 'Hello World' reverse. >>> >>> There's cool comments too. >>> >>> >> Excellent. I will remove then the invocation to that workspace from the >> next dev image :) >> >> >>> I put global Read & Write on ProfStef so everybody can destroy it :) >>> >>> >> Ok... >> >> >>> >>> Laurent >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 27, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] running pharo on iPad

by Eliot Miranda

ands John let me know whether the device allows one to write JITs or not. On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:02 PM, John M McIntosh < johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote: > Hey I thought you were taking a break from computers? > > Well there are two questions here. > > (a) What will Apple legal let us do? > > (b) How do you install software, is the App store the only legal way? > > In some respects I think the iPad versus NoteBook is that an iPad appears > to be a gated community with Apple as the > gate daemon... > > Obviously running scratch on this would be cool, same for eToys. People > who have funding to make that happen likely > should drop me some email. As soon as I can get a hold of the new > iPhone/iPad SDK I'll let everyone know feasibility. > > On 2010-01-27, at 12:52 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Hi john > > > > do you know if we will be able to install the soft we want on that stuff > > http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ > > I would love to see pharo running on it and that we could program it. > > > > Stef > > -- > =========================================================================== > John M. McIntosh <johnmci(a)smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: > squeaker68882 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > =========================================================================== > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 27, 2010