January 2010 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] worldMenu

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jan 18, 2010, at 4:34 PM, Francisco Ortiz PeÃ±aloza wrote: > i know but not every PasteUpMorph has to be the World... > > from PasteUpMorph comments > "A morph whose submorphs comprise a paste-up of rectangular subparts > which "show through". Anything called a 'Playfield' is a > PasteUpMorph." > > i'm just saying that anything related to the world concept > semantically doesnt belong to what i understand for PasteUpMorph. I do not understand PasteUpMorph (no pun intended). Seems to me that it was playing too many roles (I happy that we removed a couple of tenth of methods from it). Stef >>>>

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Mercury bar [WAS] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

may be having it as floating window that populate a (the current) browser on the fly could be fun? On Jan 18, 2010, at 9:42 PM, Simon Denier wrote: > > On 18 janv. 2010, at 19:50, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>> Thanks Lukas. Indeed, it worked and that was the difference between to >>> images. I will set it again for next image. I think it is useful and it was >>> in the previous images. It was my mistake. >>> >>> Anyway, you don't use PharoDev images ;) >>> >>> Now...what's "screen state" ?? >> >> estate, an area or amount of land or property, in particular >> >> Some people never use the mercury panel, some never use the annotation >> panel, some never use the button panel. For them, the panels they >> never use, is a waste of space and time. >> >> The question is if anybody is really using and understanding it (other >> than just typing a class name)? If I remember correctly it is planned >> to remove the code from OB. >> > > Yes I use it all the time. I find it more usable than Algernon or even Working Set when I'm looking for class refs/method users. > In O2, there is a help text by default which sums up the syntax: > - AClass (starting with upper case) when looking for a class > - aMethod (starting with lower case) when looking for a method > - #AClass, references to AClass > - #aMethod, senders of aMethod > - 'hello world', look for substring 'hello world' in method strings > > Of course it is also completion-enabled :) > > It would be cool if it had a shorcut for Siblings, like in WorkingSet > - !AClass > - !aMethod > > > > It's also true that it eats space for each browser. I think it's should be easy to put a unique search field in a task bar. As part of my Morphic experiments, I played a bit with this idea. As an example, you can perform the following in a workspace (unfortunately it opens two browsers, but should be difficult to tweak). > > (OBMercuryQuery from: '''hello''' panel: (OBPanel new browser: SystemBrowser default browserClass open model)) find > > > -- > Simon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Mercury bar [WAS] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?

by Simon Denier

On 18 janv. 2010, at 19:50, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> Thanks Lukas. Indeed, it worked and that was the difference between to >> images. I will set it again for next image. I think it is useful and it was >> in the previous images. It was my mistake. >> >> Anyway, you don't use PharoDev images ;) >> >> Now...what's "screen state" ?? > > estate, an area or amount of land or property, in particular > > Some people never use the mercury panel, some never use the annotation > panel, some never use the button panel. For them, the panels they > never use, is a waste of space and time. > > The question is if anybody is really using and understanding it (other > than just typing a class name)? If I remember correctly it is planned > to remove the code from OB. > Yes I use it all the time. I find it more usable than Algernon or even Working Set when I'm looking for class refs/method users. In O2, there is a help text by default which sums up the syntax: - AClass (starting with upper case) when looking for a class - aMethod (starting with lower case) when looking for a method - #AClass, references to AClass - #aMethod, senders of aMethod - 'hello world', look for substring 'hello world' in method strings Of course it is also completion-enabled :) It would be cool if it had a shorcut for Siblings, like in WorkingSet - !AClass - !aMethod It's also true that it eats space for each browser. I think it's should be easy to put a unique search field in a task bar. As part of my Morphic experiments, I played a bit with this idea. As an example, you can perform the following in a workspace (unfortunately it opens two browsers, but should be difficult to tweak). (OBMercuryQuery from: '''hello''' panel: (OBPanel new browser: SystemBrowser default browserClass open model)) find -- Simon

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Mercury bar [WAS] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?

by Lukas Renggli

> Thanks Lukas. Indeed, it worked and that was the difference between to > images. I will set it again for next image. I think it is useful and it was > in the previous images. It was my mistake. > > Anyway, you don't use PharoDev images ;) > > Now...what's "screen state"Â ?? estate, an area or amount of land or property, in particular Some people never use the mercury panel, some never use the annotation panel, some never use the button panel. For them, the panels they never use, is a waste of space and time. The question is if anybody is really using and understanding it (other than just typing a class name)? If I remember correctly it is planned to remove the code from OB. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?

by Levente Uzonyi

On Mon, 18 Jan 2010, Adrian Kuhn wrote: > Dear list, > > I am trying to compile a list of all source/object search abilities in Pharo > (and other Smalltalkices). So far I got > > - Senders of > - Implementers of > - References to > - Mercury search bar of OB > - Code search/rewrite of RB > - MethodFinder > - PointerFinder > > certainly there is more out there. Any references and hints are welcome. Right click in a paragraph editor (workspace for example) and select extended search... Levente > > cheers, > AA > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Mercury bar [WAS] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi folks: I previous Dev images I remember the Mercury bar in OB to > search > > for classes and methods. Now, in the last Dev Beta Image I built, there > was > > not mercury :( > > You enable it in the preferences. I never got used to it and prefer to > use the screen estate otherwise, therefore I disabled it by default. > > Thanks Lukas. Indeed, it worked and that was the difference between to images. I will set it again for next image. I think it is useful and it was in the previous images. It was my mistake. Anyway, you don't use PharoDev images ;) Now...what's "screen state" ?? Thanks! Mariano Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Mercury bar [WAS] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?

by Lukas Renggli

> Hi folks: I previous Dev images I remember the Mercury bar in OB to search > for classes and methods. Now, in the last Dev Beta Image I built, there was > not mercury :( You enable it in the preferences. I never got used to it and prefer to use the screen estate otherwise, therefore I disabled it by default. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Adrian Kuhn <akuhn(a)iam.unibe.ch> wrote: > Dear list, > > I am trying to compile a list of all source/object search abilities in > Pharo > (and other Smalltalkices). So far I got > > - Senders of > - Implementers of > - References to > - Mercury search bar of OB > - Code search/rewrite of RB > - MethodFinder > MessagesName ? > - PointerFinder > > certainly there is more out there. Any references and hints are welcome. > > cheers, > AA > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Jan. 18, 2010

[Pharo-project] Mercury bar [WAS] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi folks: I previous Dev images I remember the Mercury bar in OB to search for classes and methods. Now, in the last Dev Beta Image I built, there was not mercury :( I have completely no idea where that bar is or how to install it. Moreover, now we are using Lukas' OB. Does someone know how to install it so that I can put it again ? should that bring problems ? Cheers Mariano ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Adrian Kuhn <akuhn(a)iam.unibe.ch> Date: Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:34 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] Search in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices) what is out there? To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Dear list, I am trying to compile a list of all source/object search abilities in Pharo (and other Smalltalkices). So far I got - Senders of - Implementers of - References to - Mercury search bar of OB - Code search/rewrite of RB - MethodFinder - PointerFinder certainly there is more out there. Any references and hints are welcome. cheers, AA _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Jan. 18, 2010

Re: [Pharo-project] Screenshot of Pharo windows

by Tudor Girba

Programatically, you can also call exportAsPNG, exportAsJPEG, exportAsGIF, exportAsBMP on any Morph. Cheers, Doru On 18 Jan 2010, at 18:45, Gary Chambers wrote: > Fair, good tip. Needs adding to the wiki... > > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GermÃ¡n Arduino" <garduino(a)gmail.com> > To: <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Screenshot of Pharo windows > > > First, get the halos (Control + Left Click in Windows and press "add > halo") and the, from red halo, "export" permit to have a graphics. > Don't forget morphic guys :) > > > > 2010/1/18 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >> In mac os, command + shift + 4 and then draw what you want to >> screenshot. >> Then, look in the desktop :) >> >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2(a)btinternet.com >> > >> wrote: >>> >>> Nothing that I know of... depends on OS but I generally screenshot >>> the >>> active window then crop in Paint.net... >>> >>> Regards, Gary >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Adrian Kuhn" <akuhn(a)iam.unibe.ch> >>> To: <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 5:20 PM >>> Subject: [Pharo-project] Screenshot of Pharo windows >>> >>> >>>> Dear list, >>>> >>>> How can I take a screenshot of a separate Pharo window? eg of the >>>> MethodFinder >>>> window only? >>>> >>>> cheers, >>>> AA >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Being happy is a matter of choice."

Jan. 18, 2010