September 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug reports for all failing tests

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> > > Hmmm, I've just got back from ESUG, and I thought I'd start on these > tonight, since I'm still a bit pumped from the fantastic conference > (thanks guys!!). I was so exhausted that I slept in the train even before it was starting to move. I was nearly fainting of exhaustion. But this is ok now. So probably a transfert of energy :) Stef

Sept. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] question about Issue 207: ImageSegment discoverActiveClasses strange error

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Sep 5, 2009, at 3:10 AM, sheridan(a)sheridan-mahoney.com wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to Pharo, and so have been perusing the bug database, > and reading the recent posts in this list in order to investigate how > to become involved in this community. So far, I am very impressed! > and encouraged that such a technically expert and friendly, supportive > group is coelescing on this work effort! Thanks and welcome. We are all learning :) > I have found a report that seems quite interesting, and have done > some digging into the issue described here: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=207 > ( ImageSegment discoverActiveClasses strange error ) > and now I have a few questions I was hoping to get feedback on. We would love to have a couple of tests for imagesegment!!!! Adrian did you publish the ones you did? > > It seems that, after using this method, some follow-up is required in > order to reset the image back to a usable state. And there are > several > options as to how to do that: > > 1) ImageSegment discoverActiveClasses. > ImageSegment activeClasses size printString , ' classes were active > out of ' , Smalltalk allClasses size printString. > > - this type of statment order will reset things ok. > > 2) ImageSegment discoverActiveClasses. > ImageSegment recoverFromMDFault. this one is dangerous (from memory it hijacks the categories slot of a class to copy the methoddict and flush the method dict) then at runtime it copies back the methoddict from categories to the method dict. But last time I played with that it crashed > ImageSegment activeClasses. > > - it appears you still need the activeClasses method to reset the > image (which wasn't > entirely clear from the method comments - further comments may be > useful here), > otherwise there are classes with methodDictionaries that are set to > nil. Yes this code needs a really strong cleaning. > > 3) ImageSegment discoverActiveClasses. > Smalltalk at: #MDFaultDict put: Dictionary new. > ImageSegment recoverFromMDFaultWithTrace. > Smalltalk at: #MDFaultDict. > > - this sequence of statments will give the user a report of active > classes along with a description of how they came to be used. > Similar to above o/w. > > 4)ImageSegment discoverActiveClasses. > ImageSegment swapOutInactiveClasses. > > - there are at least 2 problems with this sequence - > a) initial result is a DNU - > ThreadSafeTranscript(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #print excellent we should fix that (my mistake) > b) when you comment out the Transcript print statements to avoid the > DNUs you get: > ByteString(Object)>errorImproperStore > > I will be looking further into this issue, but was just wondering, > firstly, is this a useful > area to be spending time, and secondly, would it be appropriate to > start a new bug, or update the old one? > Many thanks for your comments, What would be really cool is to make a call for ImageSegment tests so that we can start to build something more robust and yes image segment are a cool features and we should take care of them. > > Sheridan Mahoney > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Pharo 1.0 released

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> And after a month - make a release. > But, during this month, punish hard those who using older pharo > images. :) > > > > Stef > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > Sounds OK, but I still think it would be wrong to make a release > until all tests are green (without cheating!) yes but some of them are really difficult to fix. May be we should do a release candidate soon indeed

Sept. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Pharo 1.0 released

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Excellent you should contact jordi delgado since he is teaching bbotsinc in catalan On Sep 4, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Daniel P Zepeda wrote: > > On Sep 4, 2009, at 2:40 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >>> Is "Pharo by Example" done ? >> >> Yes :) > > Really!? Where can we get it? I'm really hot to get my hands on this > because I'm getting my son started on Squeak by Example after your > excellent book 'Learning Squeak with Robots' But I want him to learn > Pharo because the overall goal is to get him into Seaside and Webapps. > Now would be the perfect time to get this book for us anyway. > > Thanks! > > P.S. > > BTW, > > He set up a blog on his own, with pix he created with the ideas he got > from Learning with Robots: > > > Sorry, this is a bit off-topic. > > DZ > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Getting Pharo 1.0 released

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

BTW there is a call for getting the book translated in Spanish contact gabi if you want to join Gabriela.Arevalo(a)lifia.info.unlp.edu.ar for french speaking people ask in the french mailing-list :) since only a couple of new chapters are there. Stef On Sep 4, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez wrote: > El vie, 04-09-2009 a las 09:40 +0200, StÃ©phane Ducasse escribiÃ³: >> On Sep 4, 2009, at 9:03 AM, laurent laffont wrote: >> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:52 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr >>>> wrote: >>> Hi all >>> >>> I suggest the following: >>> we go over the bug tracker and move to 1.1 all the issues >>> that are >>> not showstopper >>> and we declare pharo 1.0 done >>> and we open pharo 1.1 alpha >>> >>> Does it make sense to you? >>> Stef >>> >>> Is "Pharo by Example" done ? >> >> Yes :) > > Hi Stef, > > very good news. > Thanks to all the authors that worked hard to finish it. > > >> >>> May be it's a good idea to release both together as a 1.0 version in >>> the news is a way to attract new developpers and new developpers >>> need documentation. >>> >>> >>> Laurent Laffont >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- > Miguel CobÃ¡ > http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug-Tracker Status

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks for the update On Sep 5, 2009, at 1:36 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > Reported Bugs: 1170 > Closed: 926 > > Open: 244 > 1.0: 24 > > > Marcus

Sept. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [update] #10434

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Great to see you back pushing streams :) ESUG was exhausting me as usual :) Stef On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:40 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > 10434 > ----- > > Issue 1162: Test fail: FontTest>>testMultiStringFallbackFont > Issue 1166: failing test: testOpenWorkspaceAns > Issue 1170: > IdentitySetTest>>identityCollectionWithElementsCopyNotIdentical: non- > existing ivar referenced > Issue 1171: Undeclared in HostSystemMenu>>#modifySqueakMenu: > Issue 1168: Undeclared not empty > Issue 1169: There are Obsolete Classes > > > This was already fixed: > Issue 1007: Code critic MNU in MethodProperties>>analogousCodeTo: > > > -- > Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [update] #10435

by Alain Plantec

Marcus Denker a Ã©crit : > 10435 > ----- > Issue 1159: System-Settings package must disappear > Hi all, After the update, following setting test classes from the Tests-System-Settings system category are still in the image: PragmaCollectorTest, PragmaSettingDeclarationsTest, PragmaSettingHardReset, PragmaSettingListenerTest. So, the Tests-System-Settings system category should be removed too in order to fully remove settings. Cheers Alain

Sept. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Impossible launc/use Lumiere

by nullPointer

Load package -> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/uploads/651/Speech.sar Is needed the FFI package too --> http://source.squeakfoundation.org/FFI/FFI-Kernel-ar.11.mcz Load Lumiere if not installed --> LumiereLoader load Then install VMMaker from squeaksource And is needed create a plugin for the virtual machine Well, that i did understand before in IRC. My problem is than Speech package cannot install.Crushes in a clean Pharo Image Beta Core :( Exists an available image with that packages loadeds? Regards csrabak wrote: > > Em 04/09/2009 18:07, nullPointer < epicfan(a)gmail.com > escreveu: > > >> I try use Lumiere > >> http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/lumiereIWST-2.pdf > >> for show a sample OpenGL window but donÂ´t works. I dont know what i >> doing bad.What is needed for use OpenGL in Pharo? > > I tried it and almost no test comes green... > > So I also wonder what else is needed for running LumiÃ¨re in Pharo? > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3584187.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 5, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Impossible launc/use Lumiere

by csrabak＠bol.com.br

Em 04/09/2009 18:07, nullPointer < epicfan(a)gmail.com > escreveu: > I try use Lumiere > http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/lumiereIWST-2.pdf > for show a sample OpenGL window but donÂ´t works. I dont know what i > doing bad.What is needed for use OpenGL in Pharo? I tried it and almost no test comes green... So I also wonder what else is needed for running LumiÃ¨re in Pharo?

Sept. 5, 2009