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Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of these boring questions and popup

by CÃ©drick BÃ©ler

I liked Simon presentation on "reborn smalltlak programmers" http://www.slideshare.net/esug/proposals-for-the-reborn-pharo-developer I think it contains some good ideas in relation to having a better code navigation. My 2 cents... CÃ©drick

Sept. 14, 2009

[Pharo-project] New Pharo and pharo-web based on core 10451

by Damien Cassou

http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download I've added Sound and and MorphExtras. Please test. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

Sept. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of these boring questions and popup

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Hernan, Stef I still would perfer to just ses the syntax error; perhaps it is just pop-up burnout, but I find them annoying, but not so much so that I would object if Stef wants to integrate this as-is. I vaugely recall that the changes include removing notifieres, which really steps on my toes. As is always my position on such things, I do not care if *you* skip them, but I do not want them removed from my image. Taking some small action to enable them is fine, but I ask the benevolent dictators to not allow them to be removed. Bill ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Hernan Wilkinson Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 6:35 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of these boring questions and popup I think there are two pop ups that should stay because they help TDD: 1) When the variable is not defined and you want to define it as instance variable (it is very common to do that) 2) When the class does not exists and you want to create it from there. The other (message not exist, etc) should not be there. BTW, I did that on the TDDFacilities package. It is on SqueakSource: MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/TDDFacilities' user: '' password: '' Bye, Hernan. On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:41 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr<mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote: Guys you may not have noticed it but I would love to get the code to remove these boring popups :) Stef _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of these boring questions and popup

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Sep 14, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > I think there are two pop ups that should stay because they help TDD: > 1) When the variable is not defined and you want to define it as > instance variable (it is very common to do that) > 2) When the class does not exists and you want to create it from > there. yes! > The other (message not exist, etc) should not be there. > BTW, I did that on the TDDFacilities package. It is on SqueakSource: > > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/TDDFacilities' > user: '' > password: '' cool I will have a look. Stef > > Bye, > Hernan. > > On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:41 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > wrote: > Guys > > you may not have noticed it but I would love to get the code to remove > these boring popups :) > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames questions

by Henrik Johansen

1. Here's the (I believe) equivalent LayoutFrames settings: #anchorRight - rightFraction: 1 rightOffset: -pixelsToRight #anchorBottom - bottomFraction: 1 bottomOffset: -pixelsToBottom #anchorLeft - leftFraction: 0 leftOfffset: pixelsToLeft #anchorTop - topFraction: 0 topOffset: pixelsToTop The problem with having just those four options is they don't work well with resizing when you have more than one widget (try placing two side by side and locking left + right)... In those cases you usually want a fraction somewhere between 0/1 for at least one of the edges, and adjust those a couple of pixels to make a constant size border between morphs, like this: Morph1 - leftFraction: 0 leftOffset: 5 rightFraction: 0.5 rightOffset: -2 Morph2 - leftFraction: 0.5 leftOffset: 2 rightFraction: 1 rightOffset: -5 2. Yes, I believe so. Note, this might also modifiy their rendering order (I haven't checked though), which could be important if you have partially overlapping morphs Cheers, Henry nullPointer skrev: > 1. I have always work with owners in ProportionalLayout, donÂ´t let > work with another layoutPolicy in the canvas designer. In view > designer exists the possibility of "anchor" a widget to top, left, > down and right. That is all need the user ( for the moment ) for > anchor a widget, but fails to change size and position.Exists the > possibility of do it in ProportionalLayout on owner? > > > 2. Then i understand than changing the order of submorphs that works? > I will probe. > > Regards and many thanks. > > > 2009/9/14 Gary Chambers (via Nabble) <[hidden email] > <http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3641368&i=0>> > > 1. position/extent depends on how thae morph is laid out in its > owner. > LayoutFrame is used when the owner specified a proportional > layout, use the > fractions to pin corners and the offsets to.. offset. > If the owner specifies no layout then postion/extent work as > expected. > For table layouts things are more complicated (see > hResizing/vResizing etc.) > > 2. Tab order (keyboard navigation) follows the order of the > submorphs at > present. Add your morphs (using addMorphback: or via the Polymorph > row/column type stuff) in the order you want navigation to follow. > > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nullPointer" <[hidden email] > <http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3641268&i=0>> > To: <[hidden email] > <http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3641268&i=1>> > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:48 PM > Subject: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames > questions > > > > > > > > 1- How i can change the #position or #extent of a Morph with a > layoutFrame > > setted ? > > > > for example, i have a button "anchored" to top and right; if i > set the > > #position: of that button the position donÂ´t change. Then i try > override > > the > > #position: accessor of my button; first set #layoutframe: to > nil, later do > > the set normally of #position: and later set again the old > value of > > #layoutFrame: , for remain the original anchors. But donÂ´t > works. Well, if > > I > > execute the code in a WorkSpace, line to line, then works! but > donÂ´t if > > execute all code. I donÂ´t understand :| > > > > > > 2- How works the tab index mechanism in Polymorph? > > > > in some of my Views i have controls with unordered tab order in > controls. > > How i can change the order? I donÂ´t see nothing for start. > > > > 3- Exists the possibility of change the position of cursor of a > textbox? > > > > > > Regards, and thanks for the help > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > > http://n2.nabble.com/Polymorph-TabIndex-and-layoutFrames-questions-tp363804… > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [hidden email] > <http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3641268&i=2> > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > <http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3641268&i=3> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > View this message in context: Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex > and layoutFrames questions > <http://n2.nabble.com/Polymorph-TabIndex-and-layoutFrames-questions-tp363804…> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive > <http://n2.nabble.com/Pharo-Smalltalk-f2305563.html> at Nabble.com. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] getting rid of these boring questions and popup

by Hernan Wilkinson

I think there are two pop ups that should stay because they help TDD:1) When the variable is not defined and you want to define it as instance variable (it is very common to do that) 2) When the class does not exists and you want to create it from there. The other (message not exist, etc) should not be there. BTW, I did that on the TDDFacilities package. It is on SqueakSource: MCHttpRepository location: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/TDDFacilities' user: '' password: '' Bye, Hernan. On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 12:41 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Guys > > you may not have noticed it but I would love to get the code to remove > these boring popups :) > > Stef > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames questions

by Gary Chambers

1. "Fixed" positioning can be achived by setting the fractions to 0@0 for top-left and bottom-right then using the offsets. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: nullPointer To: pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames questions 1. I have always work with owners in ProportionalLayout, donÂ´t let work with another layoutPolicy in the canvas designer. In view designer exists the possibility of "anchor" a widget to top, left, down and right. That is all need the user ( for the moment ) for anchor a widget, but fails to change size and position.Exists the possibility of do it in ProportionalLayout on owner? 2. Then i understand than changing the order of submorphs that works? I will probe. Regards and many thanks. 2009/9/14 Gary Chambers (via Nabble) <[hidden email]> 1. position/extent depends on how thae morph is laid out in its owner. LayoutFrame is used when the owner specified a proportional layout, use the fractions to pin corners and the offsets to.. offset. If the owner specifies no layout then postion/extent work as expected. For table layouts things are more complicated (see hResizing/vResizing etc.) 2. Tab order (keyboard navigation) follows the order of the submorphs at present. Add your morphs (using addMorphback: or via the Polymorph row/column type stuff) in the order you want navigation to follow. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "nullPointer" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:48 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames questions > > > 1- How i can change the #position or #extent of a Morph with a layoutFrame > setted ? > > for example, i have a button "anchored" to top and right; if i set the > #position: of that button the position donÂ´t change. Then i try override > the > #position: accessor of my button; first set #layoutframe: to nil, later do > the set normally of #position: and later set again the old value of > #layoutFrame: , for remain the original anchors. But donÂ´t works. Well, if > I > execute the code in a WorkSpace, line to line, then works! but donÂ´t if > execute all code. I donÂ´t understand :| > > > 2- How works the tab index mechanism in Polymorph? > > in some of my Views i have controls with unordered tab order in controls. > How i can change the order? I donÂ´t see nothing for start. > > 3- Exists the possibility of change the position of cursor of a textbox? > > > Regards, and thanks for the help > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Polymorph-TabIndex-and-layoutFrames-questions-tp363804… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ View this message in context: Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames questions Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames questions

by nullPointer

1. I have always work with owners in ProportionalLayout, donÂ´t let work with another layoutPolicy in the canvas designer. In view designer exists the possibility of "anchor" a widget to top, left, down and right. That is all need the user ( for the moment ) for anchor a widget, but fails to change size and position.Exists the possibility of do it in ProportionalLayout on owner? 2. Then i understand than changing the order of submorphs that works? I will probe. Regards and many thanks. 2009/9/14 Gary Chambers (via Nabble) < ml-user+180091-2119438362(a)n2.nabble.com<ml-user%2B180091-2119438362(a)n2.nabble.com> > > 1. position/extent depends on how thae morph is laid out in its owner. > LayoutFrame is used when the owner specified a proportional layout, use the > > fractions to pin corners and the offsets to.. offset. > If the owner specifies no layout then postion/extent work as expected. > For table layouts things are more complicated (see hResizing/vResizing > etc.) > > 2. Tab order (keyboard navigation) follows the order of the submorphs at > present. Add your morphs (using addMorphback: or via the Polymorph > row/column type stuff) in the order you want navigation to follow. > > Regards, Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "nullPointer" <[hidden email]<http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3641268&i=0>> > > To: <[hidden email]<http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3641268&i=1>> > > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:48 PM > Subject: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames questions > > > > > > > > 1- How i can change the #position or #extent of a Morph with a > layoutFrame > > setted ? > > > > for example, i have a button "anchored" to top and right; if i set the > > #position: of that button the position donÂ´t change. Then i try override > > the > > #position: accessor of my button; first set #layoutframe: to nil, later > do > > the set normally of #position: and later set again the old value of > > #layoutFrame: , for remain the original anchors. But donÂ´t works. Well, > if > > I > > execute the code in a WorkSpace, line to line, then works! but donÂ´t if > > execute all code. I donÂ´t understand :| > > > > > > 2- How works the tab index mechanism in Polymorph? > > > > in some of my Views i have controls with unordered tab order in controls. > > > How i can change the order? I donÂ´t see nothing for start. > > > > 3- Exists the possibility of change the position of cursor of a textbox? > > > > > > Regards, and thanks for the help > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > > http://n2.nabble.com/Polymorph-TabIndex-and-layoutFrames-questions-tp363804… > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [hidden email]<http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3641268&i=2> > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email]<http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3641268&i=3> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > ------------------------------ > View message @ > http://n2.nabble.com/Polymorph-TabIndex-and-layoutFrames-questions-tp363804… > To unsubscribe from Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames questions, click > here< (link removed) >. > > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Polymorph-TabIndex-and-layoutFrames-questions-tp363804… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [update] #10450 and 10451

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks for letting me know that I'm not losing my time... I think that this is really important to avoid to lose good fixes made by squeakers. Stef On Sep 14, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> Issue 1215: [Squeak] MC latest changes from colin in squeak >> - When choosing a required package, don t offer the selected >> package, or packages that are already required. >> - Get rid of that ridiculous confirmation if there are newer >> versions >> when saving. > > Thank you! > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 14, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames questions

by Gary Chambers

1. position/extent depends on how thae morph is laid out in its owner. LayoutFrame is used when the owner specified a proportional layout, use the fractions to pin corners and the offsets to.. offset. If the owner specifies no layout then postion/extent work as expected. For table layouts things are more complicated (see hResizing/vResizing etc.) 2. Tab order (keyboard navigation) follows the order of the submorphs at present. Add your morphs (using addMorphback: or via the Polymorph row/column type stuff) in the order you want navigation to follow. Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "nullPointer" <epicfan(a)gmail.com> To: <pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 9:48 PM Subject: [Pharo-project] Polymorph - TabIndex and layoutFrames questions > > > 1- How i can change the #position or #extent of a Morph with a layoutFrame > setted ? > > for example, i have a button "anchored" to top and right; if i set the > #position: of that button the position donÂ´t change. Then i try override > the > #position: accessor of my button; first set #layoutframe: to nil, later do > the set normally of #position: and later set again the old value of > #layoutFrame: , for remain the original anchors. But donÂ´t works. Well, if > I > execute the code in a WorkSpace, line to line, then works! but donÂ´t if > execute all code. I donÂ´t understand :| > > > 2- How works the tab index mechanism in Polymorph? > > in some of my Views i have controls with unordered tab order in controls. > How i can change the order? I donÂ´t see nothing for start. > > 3- Exists the possibility of change the position of cursor of a textbox? > > > Regards, and thanks for the help > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/Polymorph-TabIndex-and-layoutFrames-questions-tp363804… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 14, 2009