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[Pharo-project] [update] #10463

by Marcus Denker

10463 ------ Issue 1253: "Method Search" should be called "Message Names" Issue 1251: Missing methods in compiler tests -- Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Sept. 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] The tool is called "Method Search" or "Message Names"?

by Oscar Nierstrasz

It is there now -- issue 1253 - on On Sep 29, 2009, at 13:10, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > good I will integrate that in a later batch today. > Did you open a ticket? > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > >> >> I think it is simpler and more consistent to stick with "Message >> Names". The only change required is to: >> >> StandardToolSet class>>menuItems >> >> There are dozens of other places that assume that the tool is called >> "Message names". I see no reason to muck about with all of them. >> >> Posted to http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox/Tools-OscarNierstrasz.201.mcz >> >> - on >> >> >> On Sep 17, 2009, at 15:00, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>>> In the Tools menus the tool labeled "Method Search" opens a tool >>>> called "Method Names". >>> >>> May be Method Name Search >>> send a fix and I will integrate it during the next batch >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Which is it? (The the Pharo book we are calling it "Method Names", >>>> but we should be consistent.) >>>> >>>> - on >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Alien and special objects Array

by Johan Brichau

Indeed. The error is in the 'fixTemp' of the errorCode variable of the primitive method. It appears that the latest Pharo has its own #fixTemp: method on the encoder, which is overwritten by the one in the Alien-Prereqs package. I removed the #fixTemp: method that comes with Alien and all seems to work just fine if we stick with the one that comes from Pharo (all tests are green). A note to make is that the #fixTemp: of Alien was never executed before this version of Pharo, simply because the #code: method on a MethodNode has never existed (which is sent by the #fixTemp: that comes with Alien). However, I'm not comfortable saying that this is the right patch to make. Perhaps someone familiar with the compiler or John can tell us if this is fine? Another issue might be the compatibility with Squeak here. I should take a look.... I published the patch anyway in the meantime. On 29 Sep 2009, at 10:50, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Just try it in latest #10462. > > with > > ScriptLoader loadLatestPackage: 'AlienLoader' from: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Alien' > . > (Smalltalk at: #AlienLoader) load ---------------------------- Johan Brichau johan.brichau(a)uclouvain.be

Sept. 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] The tool is called "Method Search" or "Message Names"?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

good I will integrate that in a later batch today. Did you open a ticket? On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:48 PM, Oscar Nierstrasz wrote: > > I think it is simpler and more consistent to stick with "Message > Names". The only change required is to: > > StandardToolSet class>>menuItems > > There are dozens of other places that assume that the tool is called > "Message names". I see no reason to muck about with all of them. > > Posted to http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox/Tools-OscarNierstrasz.201.mcz > > - on > > > On Sep 17, 2009, at 15:00, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >>> In the Tools menus the tool labeled "Method Search" opens a tool >>> called "Method Names". >> >> May be Method Name Search >> send a fix and I will integrate it during the next batch >> >> Stef >> >> >>> >>> Which is it? (The the Pharo book we are calling it "Method Names", >>> but we should be consistent.) >>> >>> - on >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] The tool is called "Method Search" or "Message Names"?

by Oscar Nierstrasz

I think it is simpler and more consistent to stick with "Message Names". The only change required is to: StandardToolSet class>>menuItems There are dozens of other places that assume that the tool is called "Message names". I see no reason to muck about with all of them. Posted to http://www.squeaksource.com/PharoInbox/Tools-OscarNierstrasz.201.mcz - on On Sep 17, 2009, at 15:00, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> In the Tools menus the tool labeled "Method Search" opens a tool >> called "Method Names". > > May be Method Name Search > send a fix and I will integrate it during the next batch > > Stef > > >> >> Which is it? (The the Pharo book we are calling it "Method Names", >> but we should be consistent.) >> >> - on >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Citing Pharo

by Oscar Nierstrasz

http://scg.unibe.ch/scgbib?query=Blac09a&display=abstract @book{Blac09a, Title = {Pharo by Example}, Author = {Andrew Black and St\'ephane Ducasse and Oscar Nierstrasz and Damien Pollet and Damien Cassou and Marcus Denker}, Publisher = {Square Bracket Associates}, Year = {2009}, aeres = {OV}, aeresstatus = {aeres08}, inria = {ADAM}, Abstract = {Pharo by Example, intended for both students and developers, will guide you gently through the Pharo language and environment by means of a series of examples and exercises. This book is made available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license.}, ISBN = {978-3-9523341-4-0}, Url = {http://pharo-project.org/PharoByExample}, Annote = {book}, Keywords = {scg09 olit scg-pub jb09 snf-none skipdoi} } On Sep 28, 2009, at 19:49, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > I will add it to lse.bib > :) > > On Sep 28, 2009, at 4:42 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On 28.09.2009, at 10:27, Alexandre Bergel wrote: >> >>> I personally provide the url pharo-project.org >>> You could maybe cite Pharo by Example >> >> I would cite pharo by example: >> >> Andrew Black, StÃ©phane Ducasse, Oscar Nierstrasz, Damien Pollet, >> Damien Cassou and Marcus Denker, Pharo by Example, Square Bracket >> Associates, 2009, ISBN 978-3-9523341-4-0 >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de >> PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Link to Pharo by example book

by Oscar Nierstrasz

OK, both are listed now. - on On Sep 28, 2009, at 16:32, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> I think the tutorial/book page should include a reference to "Pharo >> by >> example" instead of "Squeak by example" >> http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/tutorials-books >> >> (I don't have a login otherwise I would do it) >> >> Also, it should be usefull to insert links to all required files for >> running examples. I have to provide a student of mine with them. >> Which >> image should he use ? > > Also that page could include a reference to the Seaside Book. We are > using Pharo too :-) > > Lukas > > >> >> Thanks, >> Noury >> http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/noury/ >> -------------- >> -17Ã¨mes JournÃ©es Francophones sur les SystÃ¨mes Multi-Agents >> (JFSMAâ09). Lyon, 19-21 Octobre 2009 - http://bat710.univ-lyon1.fr/~sycosma/JFSMA09/ >> >> -2nd International Workshop on Agent Technology for Disaster >> Management (ATDM'09), Nagoya, Japan, Dec. 13rd, 2009 - http://doesnotunderstand.org/wikka.php?wakka=ATDM2009 >> >> -16Ã¨me ConfÃ©rence francophone sur les Langages et ModÃ¨les Ã Objets >> (LMO). Pau 2010 - http://lmo-conference.org/2010 >> >> -ESUG 18th International Smalltalk Conference - Barcelona, Spain 2010 >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 29, 2009

[Pharo-project] Alien and special objects Array

by Torsten Bergmann

>Could you tell us if you get that error? And more info on when it >crashes? It's not a crash in the special objects array (which typically results in closing the image). It crashes with "TempVariableNode(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #code:" while trying to compile 'Ccalloc: byteSize "<Integer> ^<Integer>" <primitive: ''primCalloc'' error: errorCode module: ''IA32ABI''> ^self primitiveFailed' The prereq's package (which I guess allows new synatx) is loaded. Just try it in latest #10462. with ScriptLoader loadLatestPackage: 'AlienLoader' from: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Alien'. (Smalltalk at: #AlienLoader) load Bye T. -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser

Sept. 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Alien

by Fernando olivero

Ahh.. and regarding the windows plugin i cant tell much because i'm using alien in mac osX. All i know is that John builds and maintains the Alien plugin for the mac vm. Other platforms i dont know. Fernando Il giorno Sep 28, 2009, alle ore 7:12 PM, Torsten Bergmann ha scritto: > According to the Alien squeaksource page (wiki section) > one has to evaluate > > ScriptLoader loadLatestPackage: 'AlienLoader' from: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Alien' > . > (Smalltalk at: #AlienLoader) load > > > But this crashes in latest core #10462 while it seems to > load in core #10441. > > And my question about the state and a pointer to the alien plugin > for win32 is also still unanswered... > > Thx > T. > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla > Firefox 3.5 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 29, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Update 10458 fails with MNU

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:49 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > We should really discuss if we want to have installer or gofer in the > core. Installer allows to write installation scripts whereas Gofer allows to load MC packages. Gofer can be seen as a possible backend for Installer. You should not think in term of which one to choose because their roles are completely different. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > We should really discuss if we want to have installer or gofer in the > core. "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

Sept. 29, 2009