September 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] mariano could you publish the popup fixes ;)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Sept. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Creating an event webpage

by Adrian Lienhard

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoSprints I would continue to use the wiki as it allows different people to edit the page (like add their name to sign up to a sprint etc.) Cheers, Adrian On Sep 1, 2009, at 15:55 , Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi ! > > Since there has been a number of events related to Pharo (sprint, > dojo, ...), it would be nice to list them somewhere. Ideally, it > should be the pharo-project.org website. > A sprint will occur in Argentina this november. Where should I setup a > page? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 1, 2009

[Pharo-project] Creating an event webpage

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi ! Since there has been a number of events related to Pharo (sprint, dojo, ...), it would be nice to list them somewhere. Ideally, it should be the pharo-project.org website. A sprint will occur in Argentina this november. Where should I setup a page? Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Smalltalks 2009 - Third Smalltalk Conference of Argentina

by Alexandre Bergel

It is a bit hard to predict how many people will participate. I know that approx 4 or 5 people from Argentina expressed their interest. Best is to set up a webpage. I will do it. Cheers, Alexandre On 1 Sep 2009, at 03:41, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > yeah, that is not a problem, but it could be more difficult to > gather people... how many people do you want to participate? > > On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 6:06 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > wrote: > May I suggest a simple modification? > It would be better to have a sprint before the conference. > and does not mean that a group of coder can code in a room during > boring conference talks > Then I do not see why we would need a projector. > > Stef > > On Aug 24, 2009, at 11:04 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > > > Hi Alexander > > no problem, I'll ask for a room for that. > > > > Hernan. > > > > On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Alexandre Bergel > > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > > Andres, > > > > I would like to organize a Pharo Sprint. Do you think a room may be > > provided with: enough chair, a white board, a video projector. > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > > > On 22 Aug 2009, at 17:46, Andres Valloud wrote: > > > > > Argentina's third Smalltalk conference, Smalltalks 2009, will be > > held > > > from November 19th through November 21rd at the Facultad de > Ciencias > > > Exactas y Naturales (FCEyN), Universidad de Buenos Aires (UBA). > > > > > > All those connected with Smalltalk, be it faculty, students, > > > researchers, developers or entrepreneurs, are invited to > > participate, > > > free of cost, as presenters and members of the audience. The > > > organization committee will announce the registration website > > shortly. > > > > > > The conference's goal is to gather both the Argentine and > > > International > > > Smalltalk community to get connected sharing our work and > experience > > > with regards to Smalltalk or related topics. Smalltalks 2009 > > > presentations will be divided between the "Industry and > Development" > > > and > > > "Research and Education" categories. In addition, the event will > > > host a > > > Smalltalk programming contest. As in other editions, well known > > > personalities from the international community will attend the > > > conference. > > > > > > The "Research and Education" category is the best match for > research > > > and > > > education work done with Smalltalk in universities and public or > > > private > > > entities. The "Industry and Development" category is suitable for > > > presentations related to Smalltalk software developed by companies > > or > > > individuals, both public and private. > > > > > > A list of suggested presentation topics, not exclusive, is below: > > > > > > * Development tools. > > > * Development with prototypes. > > > * Model driven development. > > > * Agile practices (XP, TDD, etc). > > > * Web application development. > > > * Metamodeling / metaprogramming. > > > * New frameworks or models. > > > * Materials for education. > > > * Embedded systems and robotics. > > > * SOA and web services. > > > * Experience reports, both development and research. > > > * Commercial systems. > > > * Automation and best testing practices. > > > * Interoperability with other technologies. > > > * Best design and architecture practices. > > > > > > Interested presenters should keep in mind the following deadline > > > schedule. > > > > > > 1. You must present a summary of the proposed presentation no > later > > > than Monday, October 19th, 2009. The summary must fit on a single > > > page, > > > and must include a description, objective, and category of the > > work to > > > be shown. The submission procedure will be announced shortly. > > > > > > 2. The conference's program committee will select the event's > > > presentations from the proposals submitted according to the above > > > procedure by Monday, October 26th. The proposals including > dynamic > > > examples as opposed to just static presentations will be given > > > priority. > > > > > > 3. The conference schedule will be published in the conference's > > > website on Wednesday, October 28th. > > > > > > 4. The conference's works and presentations will be published in > > the > > > conference's website after the conference. > > > > > > Those interested in the coding contest can become familiarized > > with it > > > at the smalltalks-2009-coding-contest Google group: > > > > > > smalltalks-2009-coding-contest(a)googlegroups.com > > > > > > The contest's goal is to have a good time solving a problem in > > > Smalltalk, and win a prize while at it. We are working hard to > > ensure > > > everyone can participate, and we will show examples and prototypes > > > that > > > can be improved by the participants. > > > > > > For directions to FCEyN, you can go to the computer science > > > department's > > > web site: > > > > > > http://dc.uba.ar > > > > > > Feel free to share this invitation with those who might be > > interested. > > > If you have any questions, send us an email at > > > > > > fundacion (dot) smalltalk (at) gmail (dot) com > > > > > > See you at the conference! > > > Smalltalks 2009 Organization Committee. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- > project > > > > > > > -- > > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types?

by Benoit St-Jean

Well, no need to use a native driver for that. A simple "standard" SQL statement issued through an ODBC connection against the INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES table would do the job. ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein) ________________________________ From: Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 9:23:23 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? You can use the native MySQL driver if you want to do what Benoit St-Jean said. SqueakDBX with MySQL doesn't work yet under Windows, but there is a lot of people asking about that, so I think we must get MySQL another round :( Is somewhere a C (under Windows) guru here? Because the problem is: I can compile OpenDBX with the MySQL client library in Windows but in runtime, when I try to run the OpenDBX tests, I have a crash :( And In windows I cannot see even the stack...If there is someone capable to help me, please send me a private email. I will really appreciate the help. Best, Mariano 2009/9/1 Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> Which version of MySQL? Since version 4.1, there's all you need in the "INFORMATION_SCHEMA" database, in the "TABLES" table. But because of some bug in 4.1, query against that database sometimes caused the server to crash. I'd recommend that method only for 5.x and upwards. > > > ----------------- >Benoit St-Jean >Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean >Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com >A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. >>(Albert Einstein) > > > > > ________________________________ From: "Schwab,Wilhelm K" > <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> >To: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> >Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 6:58:49 AM > >Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? > > > >Primarily >MySQL running on Windows (Linux as soon as reasonable to do so) accessed from >both Windows and Linux. There will also be the occaisional .mdb >file. > > > ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >[mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano >Martinez Peck >Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 3:18 AM >To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: >table names and column names/types? > > > > >On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> >wrote: > >I >> looked through it in MC, but did not see anything obvious. Even then, I >> doubt it is a workable choice for me because regardles of what X and - mean in >> their doumention, one of the DBMS/OS pairs I need is not supported. >> >> > >Hi Bill! Which is the combination of your RDBMS / OS ? > >Regards from the ESUG :) > >Mariano > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] >> On Behalf Of Esteban A. Maringolo >>Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:38 >> PM >>To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>Subject: >> Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? >> >>Hello >> Bill, >> >>2009/8/31 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: >>> >> Hello all, >>> >>> Is there anything available for Pharo that gives >> schema information about a database? >> >>Doesn't SqueakDBX do >> that? >> >>Regards, >> >>Esteban A. >> Maringolo >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Pharo-project >> mailing list >>Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Pharo-project >> mailing list >>Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > >________________________________ Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet ExplorerÂ® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! >_______________________________________________ >>Pharo-project mailing list >Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet ExplorerÂ® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/

Sept. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

You can use the native MySQL driver if you want to do what Benoit St-Jean said. SqueakDBX with MySQL doesn't work yet under Windows, but there is a lot of people asking about that, so I think we must get MySQL another round :( Is somewhere a C (under Windows) guru here? Because the problem is: I can compile OpenDBX with the MySQL client library in Windows but in runtime, when I try to run the OpenDBX tests, I have a crash :( And In windows I cannot see even the stack...If there is someone capable to help me, please send me a private email. I will really appreciate the help. Best, Mariano 2009/9/1 Benoit St-Jean <bstjean(a)yahoo.com> > Which version of MySQL? Since version 4.1, there's all you need in the > "INFORMATION_SCHEMA" database, in the "TABLES" table. But because of some > bug in 4.1, query against that database sometimes caused the server to > crash. I'd recommend that method only for 5.x and upwards. > > ----------------- > Benoit St-Jean > Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean > Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com > A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. > (Albert Einstein) > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Schwab,Wilhelm K" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> > *To:* "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr" < > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 1, 2009 6:58:49 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? > > Primarily MySQL running on Windows (Linux as soon as reasonable to do so) > accessed from both Windows and Linux. There will also be the occaisional > .mdb file. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] *On Behalf Of *Mariano > Martinez Peck > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 01, 2009 3:18 AM > *To:* Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>wrote: > >> I looked through it in MC, but did not see anything obvious. Even then, I >> doubt it is a workable choice for me because regardles of what X and - mean >> in their doumention, one of the DBMS/OS pairs I need is not supported. >> >> > > Hi Bill! Which is the combination of your RDBMS / OS ? > > Regards from the ESUG :) > > Mariano > > > >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto: >> pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Esteban A. >> Maringolo >> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:38 PM >> To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? >> >> Hello Bill, >> >> 2009/8/31 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: >> > Hello all, >> > >> > Is there anything available for Pharo that gives schema information >> about a database? >> >> Doesn't SqueakDBX do that? >> >> Regards, >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > ------------------------------ > Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet > ExplorerÂ® 8. Optimized for Yahoo! *Get it Now for Free! *<http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types?

by Benoit St-Jean

Which version of MySQL? Since version 4.1, there's all you need in the "INFORMATION_SCHEMA" database, in the "TABLES" table. But because of some bug in 4.1, query against that database sometimes caused the server to crash. I'd recommend that method only for 5.x and upwards. ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein) ________________________________ From: "Schwab,Wilhelm K" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> To: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 6:58:49 AM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? Primarily MySQL running on Windows (Linux as soon as reasonable to do so) accessed from both Windows and Linux. There will also be the occaisional .mdb file. ________________________________ From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Mariano Martinez Peck Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 3:18 AM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> wrote: I > looked through it in MC, but did not see anything obvious. Even then, I > doubt it is a workable choice for me because regardles of what X and - mean in > their doumention, one of the DBMS/OS pairs I need is not supported. > > Hi Bill! Which is the combination of your RDBMS / OS ? Regards from the ESUG :) Mariano >-----Original Message----- >From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] > On Behalf Of Esteban A. Maringolo >Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:38 > PM >To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >Subject: > Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? > >Hello > Bill, > >2009/8/31 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: >> > Hello all, >> >> Is there anything available for Pharo that gives > schema information about a database? > >Doesn't SqueakDBX do > that? > >Regards, > >Esteban A. > Maringolo > >_______________________________________________ >Pharo-project > mailing list >Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > >_______________________________________________ >Pharo-project > mailing list >Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.

Sept. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types?

by Benoit St-Jean

Hi, If I recall correctly, nothing was implemented in regards to getting a list of tables. But implementing a method calling the ODBC SQLTables function to get such a list shouldn't be so hard. But normally, you can get the same result by executing a SQL statement querying the catalog of the RDBMS. Which database are you using ? ----------------- Benoit St-Jean Yahoo! Messenger: bstjean Blog: lamneth.wordpress.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. (Albert Einstein) ________________________________ From: "Schwab,Wilhelm K" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> To: "Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr" <Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:00:05 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? I looked through it in MC, but did not see anything obvious. Even then, I doubt it is a workable choice for me because regardles of what X and - mean in their doumention, one of the DBMS/OS pairs I need is not supported. -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of Esteban A. Maringolo Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 6:38 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] ODBC: table names and column names/types? Hello Bill, 2009/8/31 Schwab,Wilhelm K <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu>: > Hello all, > > Is there anything available for Pharo that gives schema information about a database? Doesn't SqueakDBX do that? Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

Sept. 1, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Smalltalks 2009 - Third Smalltalk Conference of Argentina

by csrabak＠bol.com.br

Sept. 1, 2009

[Pharo-project] [ OT] ESUG videos?

by Torsten Bergmann

Not as good as beeing there but the presentations are available here: http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media Have fun Torsten -- Neu: GMX Doppel-FLAT mit Internet-Flatrate + Telefon-Flatrate fÃ¼r nur 19,99 Euro/mtl.!* http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/dsl02

Sept. 1, 2009