September 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Impossible launc/use Lumiere

by Igor Stasenko

2009/9/4 nullPointer <epicfan(a)gmail.com>: > > but could be possible in Lumiere, for example, use external widgets libs of > OpenGL? > the problem for me is the widgets. Exists only a few basic widgets in > Morphic/Polymorph, and be hard of do for me. Or create a new set of widgets > in Morphic or use something do it external. The problem for me not is the > way of Morphic is drawed, else the way of Morphic is do it. Im developing a > UIBuilder and the main problem is unify all events and properties of > differents widgets in a same public interface (via Traits). Perhaps that Â it > is not worth the pain and is best create a set of widgets from start; and if > is possible use OpenGL still better. > Sorry, maybe i don't understand something... But how OpenGL could help you with having a richer set of widgets? An OpenGL is a very basic drawing library, where you can draw the simplest primitives: - points, lines, triangles. Yes, you can do many tricks with OpenGL, but still all you have is basically points, lines and triangles. > Regards, and thanks for the help. > > And excuse me for my poor english :)) > > > Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >> 2009/9/4 nullPointer <epicfan(a)gmail.com>: >>> >>> I try use Lumiere >>> >>> http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/lumiereIWST-2.pdf >>> >>> Â for show a sample OpenGL window but donÂ´t works. I dont know what i >>> doing >>> bad.What is needed for use OpenGL in Pharo? >>> >>> Is a stupid idea use OpenGL under Pharo for create 2d UIs ? Â My idea is >>> use >>> Lumiere for build UIs embedded in a morphic window, but with OpenGL >>> widgets, >>> buttons, textboxes etc Â s Â is a possible idea? Â I could for example use >>> OpenGL external widgets libs for use in Lumiere? Will be fantastic do a >>> UIBuilder using that. If Lumiere dont works for that exists another lib o >>> posibility? >> >> yes, there is. Called GLMorphic. see at squeaksource. And its already >> drawing all morphic UI using opengl calls. >> Lumiere is more about rendering 3d scenery, not 2d UI. >> But it contains the full OpenGL bindings (using Alien), so, nothing >> prevents you from writing own stuff & doing anything with it. >> There is also OpenVG binding API, which i bound recently to Squeak/Pharo >> it is for drawing 2d vector graphics using different kinds of shapes, >> fills etc. It resembles pretty much >> of the same functionality as in Adobe Flash - gradients, fills, >> strokes, patterns, images etc etc. >> It is waiting for you to explore :) >> Unfortunately the OpenVG plugin iz available for windoze only. >> >>> >>> Regards >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3582501.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3583015.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Impossible launc/use Lumiere

by nullPointer

but could be possible in Lumiere, for example, use external widgets libs of OpenGL? the problem for me is the widgets. Exists only a few basic widgets in Morphic/Polymorph, and be hard of do for me. Or create a new set of widgets in Morphic or use something do it external. The problem for me not is the way of Morphic is drawed, else the way of Morphic is do it. Im developing a UIBuilder and the main problem is unify all events and properties of differents widgets in a same public interface (via Traits). Perhaps that it is not worth the pain and is best create a set of widgets from start; and if is possible use OpenGL still better. Regards, and thanks for the help. And excuse me for my poor english :)) Igor Stasenko wrote: > > 2009/9/4 nullPointer <epicfan(a)gmail.com>: >> >> I try use Lumiere >> >> http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/lumiereIWST-2.pdf >> >> Â for show a sample OpenGL window but donÂ´t works. I dont know what i >> doing >> bad.What is needed for use OpenGL in Pharo? >> >> Is a stupid idea use OpenGL under Pharo for create 2d UIs ? Â My idea is >> use >> Lumiere for build UIs embedded in a morphic window, but with OpenGL >> widgets, >> buttons, textboxes etc Â s Â is a possible idea? Â I could for example use >> OpenGL external widgets libs for use in Lumiere? Will be fantastic do a >> UIBuilder using that. If Lumiere dont works for that exists another lib o >> posibility? > > yes, there is. Called GLMorphic. see at squeaksource. And its already > drawing all morphic UI using opengl calls. > Lumiere is more about rendering 3d scenery, not 2d UI. > But it contains the full OpenGL bindings (using Alien), so, nothing > prevents you from writing own stuff & doing anything with it. > There is also OpenVG binding API, which i bound recently to Squeak/Pharo > it is for drawing 2d vector graphics using different kinds of shapes, > fills etc. It resembles pretty much > of the same functionality as in Adobe Flash - gradients, fills, > strokes, patterns, images etc etc. > It is waiting for you to explore :) > Unfortunately the OpenVG plugin iz available for windoze only. > >> >> Regards >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3582501.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3583015.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Impossible launc/use Lumiere

by Igor Stasenko

2009/9/4 nullPointer <epicfan(a)gmail.com>: > > I try use Lumiere > > http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/lumiereIWST-2.pdf > > Â for show a sample OpenGL window but donÂ´t works. I dont know what i doing > bad.What is needed for use OpenGL in Pharo? > > Is a stupid idea use OpenGL under Pharo for create 2d UIs ? Â My idea is use > Lumiere for build UIs embedded in a morphic window, but with OpenGL widgets, > buttons, textboxes etc Â s Â is a possible idea? Â I could for example use > OpenGL external widgets libs for use in Lumiere? Will be fantastic do a > UIBuilder using that. If Lumiere dont works for that exists another lib o > posibility? yes, there is. Called GLMorphic. see at squeaksource. And its already drawing all morphic UI using opengl calls. Lumiere is more about rendering 3d scenery, not 2d UI. But it contains the full OpenGL bindings (using Alien), so, nothing prevents you from writing own stuff & doing anything with it. There is also OpenVG binding API, which i bound recently to Squeak/Pharo it is for drawing 2d vector graphics using different kinds of shapes, fills etc. It resembles pretty much of the same functionality as in Adobe Flash - gradients, fills, strokes, patterns, images etc etc. It is waiting for you to explore :) Unfortunately the OpenVG plugin iz available for windoze only. > > Regards > -- > View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3582501.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sept. 4, 2009

[Pharo-project] Impossible launc/use Lumiere

by nullPointer

I try use Lumiere http://vst.ensm-douai.fr/ESUG2009Media/uploads/1/lumiereIWST-2.pdf for show a sample OpenGL window but donÂ´t works. I dont know what i doing bad.What is needed for use OpenGL in Pharo? Is a stupid idea use OpenGL under Pharo for create 2d UIs ? My idea is use Lumiere for build UIs embedded in a morphic window, but with OpenGL widgets, buttons, textboxes etc s is a possible idea? I could for example use OpenGL external widgets libs for use in Lumiere? Will be fantastic do a UIBuilder using that. If Lumiere dont works for that exists another lib o posibility? Regards -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Impossible-launc-use-Lumiere-tp3582501p3582501.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 4, 2009

[Pharo-project] MC merge vs. load question

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Hello all, I might be having a problem querying a MySQL bit field, and want to try the latest ODBC package; it's been updated once since I built my current image, and there was mention of numeric mishaps, so it might go away. Is there a preferred way to get Monticello to update the package? I am specifically thinking of load vs. merge, but if there is anything else I should be asking, please let me know. Bill

Sept. 4, 2009

[Pharo-project] [update] #10435

by Marcus Denker

10435 ----- Issue 1159: System-Settings package must disappear Issue 1172: ScriptLoader>>#cleanupForRelease calls deprecated methods Postscript: (MCPackage named: 'System-Settings') unload. ScriptLoader new cleanUpForRelease. -- Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Sept. 4, 2009

[Pharo-project] [update] #10434

by Marcus Denker

10434 ----- Issue 1162: Test fail: FontTest>>testMultiStringFallbackFont Issue 1166: failing test: testOpenWorkspaceAns Issue 1170: IdentitySetTest>>identityCollectionWithElementsCopyNotIdentical: non- existing ivar referenced Issue 1171: Undeclared in HostSystemMenu>>#modifySqueakMenu: Issue 1168: Undeclared not empty Issue 1169: There are Obsolete Classes This was already fixed: Issue 1007: Code critic MNU in MethodProperties>>analogousCodeTo: -- Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Sept. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug reports for all failing tests

by Peter Hugosson-Miller

On 4 sep 2009, at 20.11, Marcus Denker <denker(a)acm.org> wrote: > > On 04.09.2009, at 13:48, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: >>> >>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone=1.0 >>> >> >> I *love* fixing failing tests, so if any of those issues are going >> begging, I'd be happy to take some :-) >> > > Yes, that would be cool! I fixed some, those I will now put into the > next > update. But some are left that would be nice if they are killed: > > 1167 > 1165 > 1164 > > Marcus > > > > > -- > Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project OK, I'll take those. -- Cheers, Peter

Sept. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug reports for all failing tests

by Marcus Denker

On 04.09.2009, at 13:48, Peter Hugosson-Miller wrote: >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone=1.0 >> > > I *love* fixing failing tests, so if any of those issues are going > begging, I'd be happy to take some :-) > Yes, that would be cool! I fixed some, those I will now put into the next update. But some are left that would be nice if they are killed: 1167 1165 1164 Marcus -- Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Sept. 4, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Bug reports for all failing tests

by Peter Hugosson-Miller

On 4 sep 2009, at 17.45, Marcus Denker <denker(a)acm.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I added reports for any of the left over failing Tests. They are > tagged "1.0": > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=2&q=milestone=1.0 > > 30 issues left all in all. > > Marcus > > > > > > Marcus Denker - http://marcusdenker.de > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project I *love* fixing failing tests, so if any of those issues are going begging, I'd be happy to take some :-) -- Cheers, Peter Hugosson-Miller

Sept. 4, 2009