August 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

[Pharo-project] right button still doesn't work on Windows

by Torsten Bergmann

>With Pharo beta, right button still doesn't work out of the box >in Windows. Mariano, can you try the installer executable on http://pharo-project.org/pharo-download ? For me right button work out of the box on XP and Vista and the installer uses the same image as Damien provides on the download site. Bye Torsten -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser

Aug. 11, 2009

[Pharo-project] right button still doesn't work on Windows

by Mariano Martinez Peck

With Pharo beta, right button still doesn't work out of the box in Windows. Instead, you have to use the wheel button. To fix it, you must evaluate: InputEventSensor installMouseDecodeTable I saw that in: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=838 The thing is...where can I put that code so that new images work out of the box? Best, Mariano

Aug. 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] Squeak 4.x should adopt Pharo 1.0

by Lawson English

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > good summary :) > We started pharo because we could not move anymore. > We will continue to pay attention to what they other forks are doing. > > BTW, some of us Second LIfe types are starting to play with Pharo/Seaside and various little issues keep popping up. I'm a total Smalltalk noob, but when I can't work through an example from the Squeak by Example book, that suggests there's some interesting features that should be looked at... Lawson > >

Aug. 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] SWHTTPClient

by Esteban Lorenzano

Sorry if this is not the case, but... why don't you use stunnel instead trying to make https protocol work on squeak? Is much more easy, I think. Cheers, Esteban On 2009-08-11 14:47:07 -0300, "Schwab,Wilhelm K" <bschwab(a)anest.ufl.edu> said: > AFAICT, https is just http over an SSL socket. The less incorrect I am abo > ut that, the more you are in fact looking for an SSL socket implementation. > My thought is to create that on top of OpenSSL, whether by plugin or FFI/ > Alien. > > OpenSSL provides non-blocking calls, but my recollection is that they are n > ot simple to use. A plugin that can start OS threads to prevent blocking ( > on connect, read, and write) might be the easiest approach. Perhaps someon > e who actually knows something about Squeak plugins could comment on whethe > r that makes any sense :) > > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: > pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > [mailto:pharo-project-bou > nces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of > HernÃ¡n Morales Durand > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:22 PM > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] SWHTTPClient > > http://universes.dnsalias.net/universes/repositories/squeak-3.9/SWHTTPClien > t-bkv.19.mcz > > 2009/8/11 Hernan Wilkinson > <hernan.wilkinson(a)gmail.com>: >> Does anybody know how to download the SWHTTPClient? (still looking for > >> a https client :-) ) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] SWHTTPClient

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

AFAICT, https is just http over an SSL socket. The less incorrect I am about that, the more you are in fact looking for an SSL socket implementation. My thought is to create that on top of OpenSSL, whether by plugin or FFI/Alien. OpenSSL provides non-blocking calls, but my recollection is that they are not simple to use. A plugin that can start OS threads to prevent blocking (on connect, read, and write) might be the easiest approach. Perhaps someone who actually knows something about Squeak plugins could comment on whether that makes any sense :) Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of HernÃ¡n Morales Durand Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:22 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] SWHTTPClient http://universes.dnsalias.net/universes/repositories/squeak-3.9/SWHTTPClien… 2009/8/11 Hernan Wilkinson <hernan.wilkinson(a)gmail.com>: > Does anybody know how to download the SWHTTPClient? (still looking for > a https client :-) ) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] SWHTTPClient

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

http://universes.dnsalias.net/universes/repositories/squeak-3.9/SWHTTPClien… 2009/8/11 Hernan Wilkinson <hernan.wilkinson(a)gmail.com>: > Does anybody know how to download the SWHTTPClient? (still looking for a > https client :-) ) > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 11, 2009

[Pharo-project] SWHTTPClient

by Hernan Wilkinson

Does anybody know how to download the SWHTTPClient? (still looking for a https client :-) )

Aug. 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Https client

by David T. Lewis

FYI, it's the GeniePlugin that has the stack depth problem: http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/vm-dev/2009-May/002721.html Dave On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:26:00AM -0400, David T. Lewis wrote: > That sounds familiar. I think one of the plugins has a method that is too > long and complicated to compile under the new closure compiler. Sorry I > don't remember which one, but it's not one that you need so if you can > get past the error it should not cause further problems. > > Sounds like I need to test loading VMMaker into a fresh image with closures! > > Dave > > > On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 11:45:47AM -0300, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > > Thanks... but now I'm getting a compile error loading VMMaker: 'Cannot > > compile -- stack including temps is too deep'... anyway... > > > > 2009/8/11 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > > > FFIConstants is FFI package, not Alien FFI. This last one is a new > > > implementation of FFI. > > > > > > To load FFI (not alien) on Pharo, just evaluate: ScriptLoader loadFFI > > > > > > I don't know what KlattResonatorIndices is. > > > > > > 2009/8/11 Hernan Wilkinson <hernan.wilkinson(a)gmail.com> > > > > > > Hi David, > > >> thank you for your answer. I tried to downloaded but it need FFIConstants > > >> and KlattResonatorIndices... I downloaded Alien but when downloading > > >> VMMaker, Monticello ask me for FFIConstants and I could not find the > > >> KlattResonatorIndices package... I feel kind of dumb, but could you tell me > > >> the packages for those things? > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> Hernan. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM, David T. Lewis <lewis(a)mail.msen.com>wrote: > > >> > > >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 05:42:11PM -0300, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > > >>> > Hi, > > >>> > we need to issue a post using https. We read about SWHTTPClient and > > >>> > CurlPlugIn. > > >>> > It sounds like SWHTTPClient does not support Https correctly (from > > >>> what we > > >>> > read, is that right? ), so we tried CurlPlugIn but we could not make it > > >>> > work. We tried to download VMMaker from Universes to build the plug-in > > >>> and > > >>> > it did not download (it gives a compile error). > > >>> > > >>> Try using the latest VMMaker from http://www.squeaksource.com/VMMaker. > > >>> The version that you got from Universes is now quite out of date. > > >>>

Aug. 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ClassDescription>>classVersion

by Lukas Renggli

>> This is used by ReferenceStream (and thus ImageSegment) to distinguish >> between class versions, see the comment in ClassDescription. The >> number is used to be able to distinguish different class versions and >> fix them if necessary when loading. > > Yes, this is what the code clearly says. But do you think this method > contributes to the beauty Pharo is striving for? Not really, but if you remove it ImageSegments and ReferenceStreams break. I guess Pier users and various companies won't be happy with that ;-) Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

Aug. 11, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] ClassDescription>>classVersion

by Alexandre Bergel

>> This method looks really suspicious to me. 6 classes implements >> #classVersion. Either #classVersion returns 0 or 1. > > This is used by ReferenceStream (and thus ImageSegment) to distinguish > between class versions, see the comment in ClassDescription. The > number is used to be able to distinguish different class versions and > fix them if necessary when loading. Yes, this is what the code clearly says. But do you think this method contributes to the beauty Pharo is striving for? >> But I have the strong feeling this should be implemented that way. >> The >> packaging system should provide the information. > > This version number has definitely nothing to do with packaging or > with information a packaging system could provide. Indeed. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 11, 2009