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[Pharo-project] Dumb question about inspectors

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Hello all, What makes inspectors prompt about discarding changes? Typically, I want to be told that I am about to lose changes to a browser source pane or a workspace, but almost always, I want inspectors to dumpt their content w/o a modal step. Is that behavior available at present? What preferences would I need to set? Bill

Aug. 13, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] PackageInfo>>addMethod:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

any bug is good to fix :) this is a nice catch. Stef On Aug 13, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > This method is defined as: > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > addMethod: aMethodReference > (self includesClass: aMethodReference class) > ifTrue: [self addCoreMethod: aMethodReference] > ifFalse: [self addExtensionMethod: aMethodReference] > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > I would have expected #actualClass to be sent to aMethodReference. > This method has been written a long time ago, it probably not relevant > to fix the bug, since method extension are handled by Monticello. > > Alexandre > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 13, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with new Inspector

by Gabriel Brunstein

Thank you! 2009/8/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > > 2009/8/13 Frederic Pluquet <fpluquet(a)ulb.ac.be> > >> Hello, >> Thank you for your feedback :) It is a good idea. I fixed it in the last >> version on SqueakSource. I hope it fit better for you now. >> > > This is excellent man. One day and you have the solution :) > > I just download latest version and works perfect for me. Hope this to be in > next Pharo. > > Best, > > Mariano > > > >> >> FrÃ©d >> ---- >> FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet >> UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) >> Assistant >> http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet >> >> >> 2009/8/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> >> >> >>> >>> 2009/8/12 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> >>> >>>> Oh well :-| I understand your gripe now, you resent the yellow button >>>> does not bring a menu on this pane, right!? >>>> >>>> If this is considered a bug, then yes, a BT must be opened... >>>> >>> that's exactly what I want :) Not only for people who don't use or don't >>> know about shortcuts but also because not all the commands are accessible by >>> shortcuts. >>> >>> Bye >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Em 12/08/2009 22:59, *Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com >*escreveu: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2009/8/12 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br<http://mce_host/compose?to=csrabak@bol.com.br> >>>> > >>>> >>>>> In the Inspector you have three panes, the bottom right is a small one >>>>> and it receives messages when I type, for example, self class, or self >>>>> allInstances, I can print the results or even inspect the result, is that >>>>> you want to do? >>>>> >>>> But HOW do you print the results? using ctrl + p or ctrl + i ? >>>> I want (actually I use shortcuts, but for others) to be able yo use the >>>> right button for this. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> mariano >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Em 12/08/2009 22:02, *Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com<http://mce_host/compose?to=marianopeck@gmail.com>> >>>>> * escreveu: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi folks: I have a problem with the new inspector. To reproduce: >>>>> >>>>> 1) Go to a workspace. >>>>> 2) Type ScriptLoader or any other class and inspect it. >>>>> 3) If I want to sends messages to THAT object, it seems the place to do >>>>> it is in the pane that is above on the right. Is this correct? >>>>> The problem is that there the right button doesn't work. So, I can only >>>>> use shortcuts. >>>>> >>>>> This is not good for newbie people. In addition, not all the commands >>>>> are accessible by a shortcut. >>>>> >>>>> Any has the same problem? If so, I will open a bug ticket. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Mariano >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<http://../../../undefined/compose?to=Pharo> >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2009

[Pharo-project] PackageInfo>>addMethod:

by Alexandre Bergel

This method is defined as: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= addMethod: aMethodReference (self includesClass: aMethodReference class) ifTrue: [self addCoreMethod: aMethodReference] ifFalse: [self addExtensionMethod: aMethodReference] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I would have expected #actualClass to be sent to aMethodReference. This method has been written a long time ago, it probably not relevant to fix the bug, since method extension are handled by Monticello. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 13, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] OBDependencyWalker for Pharo

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:36 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > If you use an OB based browser. > I am using the default system browser of the PharoBeta. I attach this information in the ticket. > > Stef > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > > wrote: > > Mariano and everybody > > when you open a ticket please > > - make sure that we know if this is for the OB version of a > > tools or > > not > > > > Stef: con can I know this? > > > > > > - send a clear mail to the list > > > > I already sent an email a week ago with that but ticket but no > > responses. > > > > > > Stef > > > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > 2009/8/12 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> > > > In my attempt to install OBDependencyWalker in Pharo beta #10413, I > > > discovered that it triggers DNUs because #theClass is no longer > > > available in this image version. > > > > > > I could not find easily the rationale for stripping the method. > > > > > > Is this a known fact and OBDependencyWalker should be modified, or > > > #theClass needs to be reinstated? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi have also opened a ticket a couple of days ago about a DNU > > > theClass. > > > > > > See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1059 > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pharo-project mailing list > > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] OBDependencyWalker for Pharo

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

If you use an OB based browser. Stef On Aug 13, 2009, at 2:58 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > > wrote: > Mariano and everybody > when you open a ticket please > - make sure that we know if this is for the OB version of a > tools or > not > > Stef: con can I know this? > > > - send a clear mail to the list > > I already sent an email a week ago with that but ticket but no > responses. > > > Stef > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > 2009/8/12 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> > > In my attempt to install OBDependencyWalker in Pharo beta #10413, I > > discovered that it triggers DNUs because #theClass is no longer > > available in this image version. > > > > I could not find easily the rationale for stripping the method. > > > > Is this a known fact and OBDependencyWalker should be modified, or > > #theClass needs to be reinstated? > > > > > > > > Hi have also opened a ticket a couple of days ago about a DNU > > theClass. > > > > See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1059 > > > > Best, > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 13, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with new Inspector

by Mariano Martinez Peck

2009/8/13 Frederic Pluquet <fpluquet(a)ulb.ac.be> > Hello, > Thank you for your feedback :) It is a good idea. I fixed it in the last > version on SqueakSource. I hope it fit better for you now. > This is excellent man. One day and you have the solution :) I just download latest version and works perfect for me. Hope this to be in next Pharo. Best, Mariano > > FrÃ©d > ---- > FrÃ©dÃ©ric Pluquet > UniversitÃ© Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) > Assistant > http://www.ulb.ac.be/di/fpluquet > > > 2009/8/13 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > >> >> 2009/8/12 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> >> >>> Oh well :-| I understand your gripe now, you resent the yellow button >>> does not bring a menu on this pane, right!? >>> >>> If this is considered a bug, then yes, a BT must be opened... >>> >> that's exactly what I want :) Not only for people who don't use or don't >> know about shortcuts but also because not all the commands are accessible by >> shortcuts. >> >> Bye >> >> Mariano >> >> >>> >>> Em 12/08/2009 22:59, *Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com >*escreveu: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2009/8/12 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br<http://mce_host/compose?to=csrabak@bol.com.br> >>> > >>> >>>> In the Inspector you have three panes, the bottom right is a small one >>>> and it receives messages when I type, for example, self class, or self >>>> allInstances, I can print the results or even inspect the result, is that >>>> you want to do? >>>> >>> But HOW do you print the results? using ctrl + p or ctrl + i ? >>> I want (actually I use shortcuts, but for others) to be able yo use the >>> right button for this. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> mariano >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Em 12/08/2009 22:02, *Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com<http://mce_host/compose?to=marianopeck@gmail.com>> >>>> * escreveu: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi folks: I have a problem with the new inspector. To reproduce: >>>> >>>> 1) Go to a workspace. >>>> 2) Type ScriptLoader or any other class and inspect it. >>>> 3) If I want to sends messages to THAT object, it seems the place to do >>>> it is in the pane that is above on the right. Is this correct? >>>> The problem is that there the right button doesn't work. So, I can only >>>> use shortcuts. >>>> >>>> This is not good for newbie people. In addition, not all the commands >>>> are accessible by a shortcut. >>>> >>>> Any has the same problem? If so, I will open a bug ticket. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Mariano >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr<http://../../../undefined/compose?to=Pharo> >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about MD5

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ok. I opened the ticket: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1067 I replaced _ to := and take into considerations the henrik suggestions. Best, Mariano On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Henrik Johansen < henrik.s.johansen(a)veloxit.no> wrote: > Please also use (String new: (self size * 2)) writeStream instead of > '' writeStream. > In this case it won't lead to any noticeable performance increases, > but it's good practice anyways :) > > I'd also argue the expected returnvalue of "hex" might not be clear as > something like "asHexString" when applied to a collection (hex > previously only implemented on single values), but that's a minor issue. > > When looking around, I also noticed WriteStream nextPut: does an > unnecessary check for ByteStrings which is pretty ugly (plus, it > decreases nextPut: performance for all ByteString writeStreams), filed > as Issue 1065. > > Cheers, > Henry > > > Issue 1065 > On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:32 19AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > add a nice method comment and a couple of tests! > > > > Stef > > > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 1:26 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > >> Hi folks: Me and the rest of the team is developing SqueakDBX which > >> is a driver to talk with major databases. However, I think the most > >> persistence alternatives pharo has, the best. There is no better > >> solution for every escenario. So, I am also trying to get the > >> PostgreSQL native driver to work in Pharo. This package depends on > >> Cryptography because of MD5. I know that there were added to Pharo > >> packages like System-Hashing-core, System-Hashing-SHA1 and System- > >> Hashing-MD5. However, the driver doesn't work yet. But adding this > >> single method: > >> > >> ByteArray>>hex > >> | stream | > >> stream _ '' writeStream. > >> self do: [ :each | > >> stream > >> nextPut: ('0123456789ABCDEF' at: each // 16 + 1); > >> nextPut: ('0123456789ABCDEF' at: each \\ 16 + 1)]. > >> ^ stream contents > >> > >> The driver works like a charm in Pharo without needing Cryptography > >> package. As far as I remember there were no MIT problem with this > >> package. Because of this those packages ( System-Hashing-core, > >> System-Hashing-SHA1 and System-Hashing-MD5) were integrated in Pharo. > >> > >> So, can I add it? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Mariano > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pharo-project mailing list > >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] OBDependencyWalker for Pharo

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 7:30 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > Mariano and everybody > when you open a ticket please > - make sure that we know if this is for the OB version of a tools or > not Stef: con can I know this? > > - send a clear mail to the list I already sent an email a week ago with that but ticket but no responses. > > Stef > > On Aug 13, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > > > > > 2009/8/12 <csrabak(a)bol.com.br> > > In my attempt to install OBDependencyWalker in Pharo beta #10413, I > > discovered that it triggers DNUs because #theClass is no longer > > available in this image version. > > > > I could not find easily the rationale for stripping the method. > > > > Is this a known fact and OBDependencyWalker should be modified, or > > #theClass needs to be reinstated? > > > > > > > > Hi have also opened a ticket a couple of days ago about a DNU > > theClass. > > > > See http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1059 > > > > Best, > > > > Mariano > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 13, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Question about MD5

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks henrik Stef On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:47 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > Please also use (String new: (self size * 2)) writeStream instead of > '' writeStream. > In this case it won't lead to any noticeable performance increases, > but it's good practice anyways :) > > I'd also argue the expected returnvalue of "hex" might not be clear as > something like "asHexString" when applied to a collection (hex > previously only implemented on single values), but that's a minor > issue. > > When looking around, I also noticed WriteStream nextPut: does an > unnecessary check for ByteStrings which is pretty ugly (plus, it > decreases nextPut: performance for all ByteString writeStreams), filed > as Issue 1065. > > Cheers, > Henry > > > Issue 1065 > On Aug 13, 2009, at 10:32 19AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> add a nice method comment and a couple of tests! >> >> Stef >> >> On Aug 13, 2009, at 1:26 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> Hi folks: Me and the rest of the team is developing SqueakDBX which >>> is a driver to talk with major databases. However, I think the most >>> persistence alternatives pharo has, the best. There is no better >>> solution for every escenario. So, I am also trying to get the >>> PostgreSQL native driver to work in Pharo. This package depends on >>> Cryptography because of MD5. I know that there were added to Pharo >>> packages like System-Hashing-core, System-Hashing-SHA1 and System- >>> Hashing-MD5. However, the driver doesn't work yet. But adding this >>> single method: >>> >>> ByteArray>>hex >>> | stream | >>> stream _ '' writeStream. >>> self do: [ :each | >>> stream >>> nextPut: ('0123456789ABCDEF' at: each // 16 + 1); >>> nextPut: ('0123456789ABCDEF' at: each \\ 16 + 1)]. >>> ^ stream contents >>> >>> The driver works like a charm in Pharo without needing Cryptography >>> package. As far as I remember there were no MIT problem with this >>> package. Because of this those packages ( System-Hashing-core, >>> System-Hashing-SHA1 and System-Hashing-MD5) were integrated in >>> Pharo. >>> >>> So, can I add it? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Mariano >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 13, 2009