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Re: [Pharo-project] Latest dev image on Mac

by Alexandre Bergel

I updated the lastest dev image, save as another name, and it freezes. Alt-. does not help in waking it up. Alexandre On 27 Aug 2009, at 18:59, Ramiro Diaz Trepat wrote: > Hi guys, > If I download the lastest dev image, run an update, save & quit and > then restart. The image never starts again. > I am running on a mac with the latest vm. > There is no problem at all with any image where I did not load the > latest updates. > Cheers > > r. > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 27, 2009

[Pharo-project] Latest dev image on Mac

by Ramiro Diaz Trepat

Hi guys, If I download the lastest dev image, run an update, save & quit and then restart. The image never starts again. I am running on a mac with the latest vm. There is no problem at all with any image where I did not load the latest updates. Cheers r.

Aug. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] changes necessary to make merging of squeak trunk in pharo possible

by Nicolas Cellier

Don't know if it fixes all cases but I can open the diff for Kernel and Collections at least. 2009/8/27 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Thanks!!! > I want that. > Did you fix the nil set .... error in Patch.... > > Stef > > On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > >> Name: Polymorph-Tools-Diff-nice.25 >> Author: nice >> Time: 27 August 2009, 10:50:11 pm >> UUID: c934f7e5-c68f-42c7-9e31-d61b12bfa16f >> Ancestors: Polymorph-Tools-Diff-stephane_ducasse.24 >> >> Made two changes to be able to merge squeak trunk in pharo >> Please review and update Polymorph >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [update] 10420

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks adrian. After working on papers and preparing ESUG I hope to get some times to integrate. - I would like to integrate CUIS strike fonts (now this is ready) in inbox - lot of tiny fixes I'm hesitating about the compiler notification but this is so cool not to have pop up but exception. What other think? I run all the tests and they seems good. Stef On Aug 27, 2009, at 9:43 PM, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > - Issue 838: Make mouse buttons mapping platform dependent > - Issue 405: Demo mode is unusable > - Issue 1053: Transcript updates from foreground process not displayed > in Transcript window > - Issue 1063: Class var order in Monticello (bogus dirty packages) > - Issue 1019: 0006579: String>>#findLastOccuranceOfString:startingAt: > isBuggedWhen: [substring first=substring last (now with deprecation of > old method) > - Issue 1087: tallyIt nows trigger a complete profiling (also renamed > tally it to profile it) > - Browser label: do not print 'System Browser: <Class>' but only > '<Class>' > - Disable window animation for closing > > 35 issues left for milestone 1.0. > > BTW: Yesterday, Pharo was on Y Combinator Hacker News: "Pharo: a > Smalltalk VM that doesn't look like a toy out of the box" (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=787363 > ) > > ___________________ > http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] changes necessary to make merging of squeak trunk in pharo possible

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks!!! I want that. Did you fix the nil set .... error in Patch.... Stef On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:52 PM, Nicolas Cellier wrote: > Name: Polymorph-Tools-Diff-nice.25 > Author: nice > Time: 27 August 2009, 10:50:11 pm > UUID: c934f7e5-c68f-42c7-9e31-d61b12bfa16f > Ancestors: Polymorph-Tools-Diff-stephane_ducasse.24 > > Made two changes to be able to merge squeak trunk in pharo > Please review and update Polymorph > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo-Kernel

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 27, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez wrote: > El jue, 27-08-2009 a las 20:24 +0200, Pavel Krivanek escribiÃ³: >> Hi all, >> >> I've prepared a set of shrinking scripts and patches that create a >> headless image with only basic kernel classes from the Pharo-Core. >> The >> output image has about 2 MB. > > Really great news Pavel. > Now what is the position of the Pharo board? We are really happy and supporting pavel (and really happy that he restarted to work on his great minimal kernel for pharo). Now we want to focus on release 1.0. > Will this be the next pharo core image together with a script to load > the current packages that comforms the current PharoCore? Certainly :) > That should be a great improvement. Oh yes! This is nearly 10 years I'm expecting that and slowing pushing to clean clean refactor the system. There is nothing in Smalltalk that imposes a large image as a seed. Once I saw s# with a seed of about 300k and bootstrapping in 90 ms and that we could embedd in any C application. So ideally the kernel should be like spoon: a micro kernel and a object loader. But this will be for Pharo 2.0 I guess. :) In fact I would like to have a GNU like bootstrapping core from source too. >> It is the bleeding edge project that should help in Pharo >> modularization and cleanup. It currently more or less corresponds to >> basic.image from the KernelImage so it doesn't include GUI, network >> support, Monticello etc., however SUnit and kernel tests are >> supported. >> >> For more information and downloads see >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoKernel >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- > Miguel CobÃ¡ > http://miguel.leugim.com.mx > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo-Kernel

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Aug 27, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > No, it isn't, at least for now. In fact it is not hard, it would > take about two days to prepare it, however it would be too big step > and I don't see it as the priority. Priorities are integration with > Pharo, network support and Monticello. thanks! thanks! This is great to get people working on both ends of the problem. Now let us know how we can help (for example to help the integration). > > -- Pavel > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu> wrote: > This is amazing Pavel. Is there a way to load the GUI back? > > Alexandre > > On 27 Aug 2009, at 14:24, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I've prepared a set of shrinking scripts and patches that create a > > headless image with only basic kernel classes from the Pharo-Core. > > The output image has about 2 MB. > > > > It is the bleeding edge project that should help in Pharo > > modularization and cleanup. It currently more or less corresponds to > > basic.image from the KernelImage so it doesn't include GUI, network > > support, Monticello etc., however SUnit and kernel tests are > > supported. > > > > For more information and downloads see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoKernel > > > > Cheers, > > -- Pavel > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 27, 2009

[Pharo-project] changes necessary to make merging of squeak trunk in pharo possible

by Nicolas Cellier

Name: Polymorph-Tools-Diff-nice.25 Author: nice Time: 27 August 2009, 10:50:11 pm UUID: c934f7e5-c68f-42c7-9e31-d61b12bfa16f Ancestors: Polymorph-Tools-Diff-stephane_ducasse.24 Made two changes to be able to merge squeak trunk in pharo Please review and update Polymorph

Aug. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo-Kernel

by Miguel Enrique CobÃ¡ Martinez

El jue, 27-08-2009 a las 20:24 +0200, Pavel Krivanek escribiÃ³: > Hi all, > > I've prepared a set of shrinking scripts and patches that create a > headless image with only basic kernel classes from the Pharo-Core. The > output image has about 2 MB. Really great news Pavel. Now what is the position of the Pharo board? Will this be the next pharo core image together with a script to load the current packages that comforms the current PharoCore? That should be a great improvement. > > It is the bleeding edge project that should help in Pharo > modularization and cleanup. It currently more or less corresponds to > basic.image from the KernelImage so it doesn't include GUI, network > support, Monticello etc., however SUnit and kernel tests are > supported. > > For more information and downloads see > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoKernel > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Miguel CobÃ¡ http://miguel.leugim.com.mx

Aug. 27, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Pharo-Kernel

by Esteban Lorenzano

+1 (I'm waiting for something like this since a lot time) On 2009-08-27 15:43:28 -0300, Pavel Krivanek <pavel.krivanek(a)gmail.com> said: > > > No, it isn't, at least for now. In fact it is not hard, it would take about > two days to prepare it, however it would be too big step and I don't see it > as the priority. Priorities are integration with Pharo, network support and > Monticello. > > -- Pavel > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Alexandre Bergel > <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > >> This is amazing Pavel. Is there a way to load the GUI back? >> >> Alexandre >> >> On 27 Aug 2009, at 14:24, Pavel Krivanek wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I've prepared a set of shrinking scripts and patches that create a >>> headless image with only basic kernel classes from the Pharo-Core. >>> The output image has about 2 MB. >>> >>> It is the bleeding edge project that should help in Pharo >>> modularization and cleanup. It currently more or less corresponds to >>> basic.image from the KernelImage so it doesn't include GUI, network >>> support, Monticello etc., however SUnit and kernel tests are >>> supported. >>> >>> For more information and downloads see >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PharoKernel >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- Pavel >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > No, it isn't, at least for now. In fact it is not hard, it would take a= > bout two days to prepare it, however it would be too big step and I don&#39= > ;t see it as the priority. Priorities are integration with Pharo, network s= > upport and Monticello. > -- Pavel <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:32= > PM, Alexandre Bergel dir=3D"ltr"><alexandre(a)bergel.eu> > = > wrote: <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid= > rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> > This is amazing Pavel. Is there a way to load the GUI back? > > Alexandre > <div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"> > On 27 Aug 2009, at 14:24, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I've prepared a set of shrinking scripts and patches that create a= > > > headless image with only basic kernel classes from the Pharo-Core. > > The output image has about 2 MB. > > > > It is the bleeding edge project that should help in Pharo > > modularization and cleanup. It currently more or less corresponds to<b= > r> > > basic.image from the KernelImage so it doesn't include GUI, networ= > k > > support, Monticello etc., however SUnit and kernel tests are > > supported. > > > > For more information and downloads see <a href=3D"http://code.google.c= > om/p/pharo/wiki/PharoKernel" target=3D"_blank">http://code.google.com/p/pha= > ro/wiki/PharoKernel</a> > > > > Cheers, > > -- Pavel > </div></div>> _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > <a > href=3D"mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr">Pharo-project@l= ists.gforge.inria.fr</a> > > > <a href=3D"http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo= > -project" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/li= > stinfo/pharo-project</a> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel =A0<a href=3D"http://www.bergel.eu" target=3D"_blank">http= > ://www.bergel.eu</a> > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > <a > href=3D"mailto:Pharo-project@lists.gforge.inria.fr">Pharo-project(a)lists.= gforge.inria.fr</a> <a > > href=3D"http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-proj= > ect" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinf= > o/pharo-project</a> > </blockquote></div> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 27, 2009