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Re: [Pharo-project] Enhanced StrikeFonts (antiAliasing , subPixel AA)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Latest tweaks. http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/Misc/EnhancedStrikeFontsForPharoV3.zip Thanks to juan :) On Aug 7, 2009, at 8:22 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks thanks thanks. Henrik this is cool that we get such an > analysis. Do you have an idea of the memory usage too :) > > Juan sent me that yesterday: > The new version is at http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/Misc/EnhancedStrikeFontsForPharoV2.zip > and includes all the latest enhancements I did for Squeak and Cuis > on this arena. Please use this one and discard the previous one. > > But may be still missing some fixes he did. > I would vote for including them in 1.1. > > Stef > > On Aug 6, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > >> AA-StrikeFont rendering is ALOT faster than TrueType rendering. >> >> Plus, they allow a good way to get nice-looking fonts on all >> platforms without distributing a Font with the image. >> You have to import new StrikeFonts manually into the image if you >> want more choice, only DejaVu in 7/9/12, with italic and bold >> variants are included in Juans changeset. >> If you choose one of the truetype-fonts in your system, they will, >> (of course) use TT-rendering instead. >> >> TrueType is somewhat better looking though, and the StrikeFonts >> still have some bugs: >> - WarpBlt doesn't work in the .cs, fixed in Squeak trunk. (F.ex >> leads to the mini-images on the window bar not rendering). >> - "Disabled" buttons using StrikeFonts draw strangely (Open >> Monticello Browser for an example). >> - The Squeak trunk version has a messed up StrikeFont class >> >> dejaVuSansBold12Form. (Or it might be caused by the way I loaded >> into Pharo, by browsing the package and installing just the latest >> versions of StrikeFont and BitBlt, then running StrikeFont >> installDejaVu) >> >> Cheers, >> Henry >> >> Some details: >> >> Opening up a BetaDev-image (Properties browser and workspace open), >> and doing: >> TimeProfileBrowser onBlock: [|test| 500 timesRepeat: [World >> fullRepaintNeeded; doOneCycle]] >> >> reveals : >> - TT: >> 39400ms total >> - 34278ms rendering >> - 13396ms rendering fonts. >> - 17015 inc gc's, 3271ms >> >> then installing StrikeFonts changeset and reopening Workspace/ >> PropertiesBrowser: >> - (leaf nodes are cut of at 1%, so font rendering is probably a bit >> higher) >> 28556ms total >> - 22445ms rendering >> - 1623ms rendering fonts. >> - 10593 inc gc's, 2068ms >> >> On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:19 23PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:28 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr >>>> wrote: >>> I have the impression that in case you want to have to run your vm >>> on >>> system not having the freeType plugin. >>> Relying less on C code is a nice option (especially when a guy did >>> all >>> the work). >>> Often people are telling us that we should not do everything in >>> Smalltalk but there this is a nice solution >>> and all in Smalltalk. >>> >>> what about the performance between them? >>> >>> If I can choose, I will obviously choose to do as much as possible >>> in the smalltalk world. However, this is not always possible. If >>> this Juan fonts were as fast (or better) as TrueTypes and as nice >>> of them, I would choose Juan's work. >>> >>> Another newbie question, with this StrikeFonts, can I choose the >>> font to use? >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> mariano >>> >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>>>> Concerning the fonts, I wonder what the win is, now that we have >>>>> FreeType? Not that I don't like Juan's solution (I even proposed >>> it >>>>> some time ago for Pharo but then others preferred FreeType). When >>>>> would FreeType not work and you would fall back to Juan's fonts? >>>>> >>>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> >>>> On Aug 5, 2009, at 09:50 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>> >>>>> Henrik >>>>> >>>>> here is my answer: so I would really like to get enhanced >>>>> strikefonts in pharo. >>>>> Now I would like to have the point of view of the font experts. >>>>> >>>>> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1037 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Stef, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi juan >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ideally in Pharo I would really like to be able to have really >>>>>>>> nice fonts without relying >>>>>>>> on external plugin. Now I do not know too much about fonts. >>>>>>>> Do you know that we could have the best of both worlds: >>>>>>>> - your idea >>>>>>>> - freetype. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stef >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, I don't see any reason for not doing so. Load the attached. >>>>>>> First 'preliminaries', then the big one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Enjoy! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Juan Vuletich >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <EnhancedStrikeFontsForPharo.zip> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 4, 2009, at 8:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> From: Juan Vuletich <juan <at> jvuletich.org> >>>>>> Subject: [Ann] Enhanced StrikeFonts (antiAliasing , subPixel AA) >>>>>> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general >>>>>> Date: 2009-08-03 21:52:47 GMT (20 hours and 12 minutes ago) >>>>>> Hi Folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> If you update to the latest trunk, you'll load Graphics-jmv.53, >>>>>> Morphic-jmv.138 and System-jmv.118. This is the support for anti >>>>>> aliased >>>>>> StrikeFonts from Cuis. The new 'BitmapDejaVu' font of point >>> size 9 >>>>>> is >>>>>> set as default. I only included size 9 (reg, italic, bold, bold >>>>>> italic) >>>>>> to avoid using too much space in the image. If people want, more >>>>>> sizes >>>>>> can be added. >>>>>> >>>>>> To do proper antialiasing / subpixel AA _without_ requiring new >>>>>> BitBlt >>>>>> modes, I use RGBMul BitBlt rule, and a second pass with RGBAdd >>> rule. >>>>>> Text looks very good, in any combination of font and background >>>>>> colors, >>>>>> even at lower Display depths and / or glyphs depths. >>>>>> >>>>>> By default underscore and caret are shown as in standard ASCII. >>> If >>>>>> you >>>>>> prefer the classic ST-80 left and up arrow, evaluate 'StrikeFont >>>>>> useLeftArrow'. To go back to the default, evaluate 'StrikeFont >>>>>> useUnderscore'. I also added 2 preferences #subPixelRenderFonts >>> and >>>>>> #subPixelRenderColorFonts (both default to true). >>>>>> >>>>>> Andreas, thanks for all your help! >>>>>> >>>>>> Comments are welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Juan Vuletich >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>> project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Enhanced StrikeFonts (antiAliasing , subPixel AA)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks thanks thanks. Henrik this is cool that we get such an analysis. Do you have an idea of the memory usage too :) Juan sent me that yesterday: The new version is at http://www.jvuletich.org/Squeak/Misc/EnhancedStrikeFontsForPharoV2.zip and includes all the latest enhancements I did for Squeak and Cuis on this arena. Please use this one and discard the previous one. But may be still missing some fixes he did. I would vote for including them in 1.1. Stef On Aug 6, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > AA-StrikeFont rendering is ALOT faster than TrueType rendering. > > Plus, they allow a good way to get nice-looking fonts on all > platforms without distributing a Font with the image. > You have to import new StrikeFonts manually into the image if you > want more choice, only DejaVu in 7/9/12, with italic and bold > variants are included in Juans changeset. > If you choose one of the truetype-fonts in your system, they will, > (of course) use TT-rendering instead. > > TrueType is somewhat better looking though, and the StrikeFonts > still have some bugs: > - WarpBlt doesn't work in the .cs, fixed in Squeak trunk. (F.ex > leads to the mini-images on the window bar not rendering). > - "Disabled" buttons using StrikeFonts draw strangely (Open > Monticello Browser for an example). > - The Squeak trunk version has a messed up StrikeFont class >> > dejaVuSansBold12Form. (Or it might be caused by the way I loaded > into Pharo, by browsing the package and installing just the latest > versions of StrikeFont and BitBlt, then running StrikeFont > installDejaVu) > > Cheers, > Henry > > Some details: > > Opening up a BetaDev-image (Properties browser and workspace open), > and doing: > TimeProfileBrowser onBlock: [|test| 500 timesRepeat: [World > fullRepaintNeeded; doOneCycle]] > > reveals : > - TT: > 39400ms total > - 34278ms rendering > - 13396ms rendering fonts. > - 17015 inc gc's, 3271ms > > then installing StrikeFonts changeset and reopening Workspace/ > PropertiesBrowser: > - (leaf nodes are cut of at 1%, so font rendering is probably a bit > higher) > 28556ms total > - 22445ms rendering > - 1623ms rendering fonts. > - 10593 inc gc's, 2068ms > > On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:19 23PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:28 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr >> > wrote: >> I have the impression that in case you want to have to run your vm on >> system not having the freeType plugin. >> Relying less on C code is a nice option (especially when a guy did >> all >> the work). >> Often people are telling us that we should not do everything in >> Smalltalk but there this is a nice solution >> and all in Smalltalk. >> >> what about the performance between them? >> >> If I can choose, I will obviously choose to do as much as possible >> in the smalltalk world. However, this is not always possible. If >> this Juan fonts were as fast (or better) as TrueTypes and as nice >> of them, I would choose Juan's work. >> >> Another newbie question, with this StrikeFonts, can I choose the >> font to use? >> >> thanks >> >> mariano >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> Concerning the fonts, I wonder what the win is, now that we have >> >> FreeType? Not that I don't like Juan's solution (I even proposed >> it >> >> some time ago for Pharo but then others preferred FreeType). When >> >> would FreeType not work and you would fall back to Juan's fonts? >> >> >> >> Adrian >> > >> > >> > On Aug 5, 2009, at 09:50 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> > >> >> Henrik >> >> >> >> here is my answer: so I would really like to get enhanced >> >> strikefonts in pharo. >> >> Now I would like to have the point of view of the font experts. >> >> >> >> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1037 >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Hi Stef, >> >>>> >> >>>> StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>>>> Hi juan >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Ideally in Pharo I would really like to be able to have really >> >>>>> nice fonts without relying >> >>>>> on external plugin. Now I do not know too much about fonts. >> >>>>> Do you know that we could have the best of both worlds: >> >>>>> - your idea >> >>>>> - freetype. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Stef >> >>>> >> >>>> Yes, I don't see any reason for not doing so. Load the attached. >> >>>> First 'preliminaries', then the big one. >> >>>> >> >>>> Enjoy! >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> Juan Vuletich >> >> >> >> >> >> <EnhancedStrikeFontsForPharo.zip> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 4, 2009, at 8:05 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> >> >>> From: Juan Vuletich <juan <at> jvuletich.org> >> >>> Subject: [Ann] Enhanced StrikeFonts (antiAliasing , subPixel AA) >> >>> Newsgroups: gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.squeak.general >> >>> Date: 2009-08-03 21:52:47 GMT (20 hours and 12 minutes ago) >> >>> Hi Folks, >> >>> >> >>> If you update to the latest trunk, you'll load Graphics-jmv.53, >> >>> Morphic-jmv.138 and System-jmv.118. This is the support for anti >> >>> aliased >> >>> StrikeFonts from Cuis. The new 'BitmapDejaVu' font of point >> size 9 >> >>> is >> >>> set as default. I only included size 9 (reg, italic, bold, bold >> >>> italic) >> >>> to avoid using too much space in the image. If people want, more >> >>> sizes >> >>> can be added. >> >>> >> >>> To do proper antialiasing / subpixel AA _without_ requiring new >> >>> BitBlt >> >>> modes, I use RGBMul BitBlt rule, and a second pass with RGBAdd >> rule. >> >>> Text looks very good, in any combination of font and background >> >>> colors, >> >>> even at lower Display depths and / or glyphs depths. >> >>> >> >>> By default underscore and caret are shown as in standard ASCII. >> If >> >>> you >> >>> prefer the classic ST-80 left and up arrow, evaluate 'StrikeFont >> >>> useLeftArrow'. To go back to the default, evaluate 'StrikeFont >> >>> useUnderscore'. I also added 2 preferences #subPixelRenderFonts >> and >> >>> #subPixelRenderColorFonts (both default to true). >> >>> >> >>> Andreas, thanks for all your help! >> >>> >> >>> Comments are welcome. >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> Juan Vuletich >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Pharo-project mailing list >> >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pharo-project mailing list >> >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >> project >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pharo-project mailing list >> > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 7, 2009

[Pharo-project] WAKom and Seaside 2.9

by Torsten Bergmann

>Was Seaside 2.9 intended to be used with Pharo beta 1? WAKom still doesn't >work with that version. Can you tell us more? Should work out of the box. At least it does for me. Evaluate ScriptLoader loadSeaside29 Then OK when asked to load, NO to run the tests and after loading select "Tools -> More -> Seaside Control Panel" from the world menu. In the control panel you can add a WAComancheAdapter with a port and start it. Bye Torsten -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/chbrowser

Aug. 7, 2009

[Pharo-project] WAKom and Seaside 2.9

by Robert Sirois

Was Seaside 2.9 intended to be used with Pharo beta 1? WAKom still doesn't work with that version. RS _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for HotmailÂ®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=PID23391…

Aug. 7, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Problem with Universe? Cannot load OBAlpha

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre(a)bergel.eu>wrote: > Dear List, > > Just to check where the problem comes from. Does "ScriptLoader > loadOBAlpha" works for you? > For me, it blocks on 'Updating Package List...'. > Works well here. Linux and pharo1.0beta-10401dev09.07.5.image It could be a network problem. Try again ;) best, Mariano > > Alexandre > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Aug. 7, 2009

[Pharo-project] Compiling a Squeak VM for Pharo on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Server (64bit)

by Dave Woodward

I tried using the pre-compiled VM from the Pharo website to no avail. I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, but when running the pre-compiled Pharo VM, OR the pre-compiled Squeak 3.10-6 VM, they just quit with a "File not found" error. My only hunch regarding this is that they were compiled on 32bit Linuxes, and I'm using a 64bit Linux. I'm using a bare-bones install of Ubuntu server, 8.04LTS 64bit. I'm using Slicehost.com for a virtual server to run a Seaside application (they use all 64bit *NIXs), and I'm switching from vanilla Squeak 3.9 to Pharo. So, since the Squeak 3.10-6 VM didn't work either I decided to compile my own VM. This does not work out of the box on a vanilla Ubuntu Server 8.04 install, so here are the steps I took to successfully compile the VM from the 3.10-6 src files: (cd /Squeak-3.10-6/platforms/unix) Configure: ./config/configure --without-x --without-gl --without-quartz --without-npsqueak NOTE: The configure command adds 2 entries to disable the RomePlugin. It looks like it first tests Freetype (not installed so adds an entry to disable RomePlugin), and then tests Cairo (not installed, so adds *another* entry to disable RomePlugin). I believe the autoconf files need to be fixed for this, but I leave it up to the squeak-dev folks to figure that out as I have no knowledge of autoconf. Make: make squeak (this will error) To fix the damage from the note above, I had to remove the duplicate entry for RomePlugin_exports on line 22 of disabledPlugins.c. Make: make squeak (should be successful) make squeak install move /usr/local/lib/squeak/3.10-6/UUIDPlugin to UUIDPlugin.bak as it has the wrong ELF header, and I've heard has other problems too. And now /usr/local/bin/squeak should work! (note, without X you'll need to add "-vm display=none" for the VM to start). I hope this helps people! Thanks for everybody's hard work on Pharo! Dave Woodward ................................................... www.futuremint.com 317.332.6438 | dave(a)futuremint.com

Aug. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Cursor theming

by Alexandre Bergel

Maybe this is because it is new to me, but for the 5 minutes I have played with it, I like the white arrow better than the original black one. Alexandre On 6 Aug 2009, at 10:54, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > If someone wants to also theme the cursors here is a working snippet > (a) > and a snippet to generate Smalltalk code from an external picture (b). > > Note that there are various class variables in class Cursor > representing the different styles (here we only change #NormalCursor > as an example) > > Have fun > Torsten > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > |form cursor| > form := (Form > extent: 12@19 > depth: 32 > fromArray: #( 3875735066 922945050 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3875735066 > 3171091994 922945050 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3875735066 4293256936 > 3171091994 922945050 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3875735066 4294967295 > 4293256936 3171091994 922945050 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3875735066 4294967295 > 4294967295 4293256936 3171091994 922945050 0 0 0 0 0 0 3875735066 > 4294967295 4294967295 4294967295 4293256936 3171091994 922945050 0 0 > 0 0 0 3875735066 4294967295 4294967295 4294967295 4294967295 > 4293256936 3171091994 922945050 0 0 0 0 3875735066 4294967295 > 4294967295 4294967295 4294967295 4294835709 4293059300 3171091994 > 922945050 0 0 0 3875735066 4294967295 4294967295 4294967295 > 4294835709 4294704123 4294506744 4292664799 3171091994 922945050 0 0 > 3875735066 4294967295 4294967295 4294835709 4294704123 4294506744 > 4294309365 4294046193 4292269784 3171091994 922945050 0 3875735066 > 4294967295 4294835709 4294704123 4294506744 4294309365 4294046193 > 4293848814 4293585642 4291809233 3171091994 922945050 3875735066 > 4294835709 4294704123 4294506744 4294309365 4294046193 4293848814 > 4293585642 4293322470 4293059298 4291414475 3171091994 3875735066 > 4294704123 4294506744 4294309365 4292467163 4293848814 4293585642 > 3171091994 3171091994 3171091994 3171091994 3171091994 3875735066 > 4294506744 4294309365 4292467163 4093838874 4288980395 4293322470 > 3154314778 1292043802 0 0 0 3875735066 4294309365 4292467163 > 4093838874 922945050 3540190746 4293059298 4291414475 3540190746 0 0 > 0 3875735066 4292467163 4093838874 922945050 0 3020097050 4289769653 > 4292598747 3020097050 1292043802 0 0 3171091994 4093838874 922945050 > 0 0 922945050 3607299610 4292401368 4290822338 3506636314 0 0 0 0 0 > 0 0 0 3020097050 4290822338 4292072403 3422750234 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > 436405786 3607299610 2650998298 822281754 0 0) > offset: 0@0). > > cursor := Cursor extent: 12@19 depth: 32. > cursor offset: 0@0. > cursor bits: form bits. > Cursor classPool at: #NormalCursor put: cursor. > cursor beCursor > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | image stream | > image := ColorForm fromFileNamed: '/path/to/icon.gif'. > stream := WriteStream with: String new. > image storeOn: stream. > stream contents. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla > Firefox 3 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Default Background

by Alexandre Bergel

I agree with Adrian, a gradient will be probably nicer. Alexandre On 6 Aug 2009, at 11:52, Adrian Lienhard wrote: > > On Aug 6, 2009, at 17:09 , Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >> Adrian wrote: >>> I don't like it at all... >> >> Then evaluate: >> >> World color: Color white ;) >> >> Dont you like the pattern idea or the colors/darkness? > > I think both ;) > > A gradient background could work; something like the attached > screenshot (sorry for sending an image to the list, but I don't have > time right now to figure out how to do it programmatically). > > Adrian > > <Picture 2.png> >> >> >> If a pattern background is OK we can agree on two or three >> simple small images and provide a preference. >> >> We can also use a gradient without a problem ... anything >> is better than pure white. >> >> bye >> Torsten >> -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >> Firefox 3 - >> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 6, 2009

[Pharo-project] Problem with Universe? Cannot load OBAlpha

by Alexandre Bergel

Dear List, Just to check where the problem comes from. Does "ScriptLoader loadOBAlpha" works for you? For me, it blocks on 'Updating Package List...'. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Aug. 6, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Default Background

by Adrian Lienhard

On Aug 6, 2009, at 17:09 , Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Adrian wrote: >> I don't like it at all... > > Then evaluate: > > World color: Color white ;) > > Dont you like the pattern idea or the colors/darkness? I think both ;) A gradient background could work; something like the attached screenshot (sorry for sending an image to the list, but I don't have time right now to figure out how to do it programmatically). Adrian > > > If a pattern background is OK we can agree on two or three > simple small images and provide a preference. > > We can also use a gradient without a problem ... anything > is better than pure white. > > bye > Torsten > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla > Firefox 3 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Aug. 6, 2009