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Re: [Pharo-project] problem with TextMorph>>handleInteraction:fromEvent:

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

do you have a cs? Stef On Jul 12, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Ouch, bad method, please replace: #handleInteraction:fromEvent: (the > squeak event), for #handleInteraction: (the pharo equivallent) > > Cheers, > Esteban > > On 2009-07-12 11:22:47 -0300, Esteban Lorenzano > <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> said: > >> Hi, >> I'm working to make Algernon works on pharo, and I found what seems >> to >> be a bug (or at least something that "revesls" a bug), in >> TextMorph>>handleInteraction: >> This is what happens: the Algernon starts and you type a class, >> then go >> inside to look for a method, and that sends a keyStroke: to a new >> TextMorph, who sends a #handleInteraction:fromEvent:. >> So... old implementation on #handleInteraction:fromEvent: had a first >> line removed in new implementation: >> >> self editor sensor: (KeyboardBuffer new startingEvent: evt). >> >> >> The problem is this: #editor message instances editor attribute if >> nil. >> Now... that line is not anymore, introducing a DNU when sending a >> subsecuent message to editor attribute. >> I "solved" it bu changing this line: >> >> oldEditor := editor. >> >> >> for this other: >> >> oldEditor := self editor. >> >> >> (who restores the editor instantiation). >> >> What I don't know is: >> >> a) is this a bug? >> b) the bug is there or is a collateral damage? >> c) my hack really solves the problem? >> d) is possible to introduce this bugfix into a new version? >> >> Cheers, >> Esteban > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] problem with TextMorph>>handleInteraction:fromEvent:

by Esteban Lorenzano

Ouch, bad method, please replace: #handleInteraction:fromEvent: (the squeak event), for #handleInteraction: (the pharo equivallent) Cheers, Esteban On 2009-07-12 11:22:47 -0300, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> said: > Hi, > I'm working to make Algernon works on pharo, and I found what seems to > be a bug (or at least something that "revesls" a bug), in > TextMorph>>handleInteraction: > This is what happens: the Algernon starts and you type a class, then go > inside to look for a method, and that sends a keyStroke: to a new > TextMorph, who sends a #handleInteraction:fromEvent:. > So... old implementation on #handleInteraction:fromEvent: had a first > line removed in new implementation: > > self editor sensor: (KeyboardBuffer new startingEvent: evt). > > > The problem is this: #editor message instances editor attribute if nil. > Now... that line is not anymore, introducing a DNU when sending a > subsecuent message to editor attribute. > I "solved" it bu changing this line: > > oldEditor := editor. > > > for this other: > > oldEditor := self editor. > > > (who restores the editor instantiation). > > What I don't know is: > > a) is this a bug? > b) the bug is there or is a collateral damage? > c) my hack really solves the problem? > d) is possible to introduce this bugfix into a new version? > > Cheers, > Esteban

July 12, 2009

[Pharo-project] problem with TextMorph>>handleInteraction:fromEvent:

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, I'm working to make Algernon works on pharo, and I found what seems to be a bug (or at least something that "revesls" a bug), in TextMorph>>handleInteraction: This is what happens: the Algernon starts and you type a class, then go inside to look for a method, and that sends a keyStroke: to a new TextMorph, who sends a #handleInteraction:fromEvent:. So... old implementation on #handleInteraction:fromEvent: had a first line removed in new implementation: self editor sensor: (KeyboardBuffer new startingEvent: evt). The problem is this: #editor message instances editor attribute if nil. Now... that line is not anymore, introducing a DNU when sending a subsecuent message to editor attribute. I "solved" it bu changing this line: oldEditor := editor. for this other: oldEditor := self editor. (who restores the editor instantiation). What I don't know is: a) is this a bug? b) the bug is there or is a collateral damage? c) my hack really solves the problem? d) is possible to introduce this bugfix into a new version? Cheers, Esteban

July 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: good keybinder

by Alexandre Bergel

Keep us informed, I will be glad to try it out Cheers, Alexandre On 12 Jul 2009, at 15:19, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Hi Stef, > Mars was sleeping last two months, because job obligations took all my > time. But is awake now, and I hope to make a new release very soon. > Right now I'm migrating the code base from a hand-made pluging > (MarsPlugin) to John's ObjectiveCBridge. This is taking some time > because the VM still has some problems . So, for the moment, main work > is: John made a change, I test it :). I hope this work is in the > benefit of the community it self, so I'm not worried about the > consumed > time. > When this job is done, I expect to release a new version, with same > functionality as 0.1, but better callback events support. > After that, all remaining work is not so hard, so I expect to have a > stable (and complete) version for the end of the year. > > Cheers, > Esteban > > pd: of course, all help is welcomed :) > > On 2009-07-11 03:33:20 -0300, StÃ©phane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> said: > >> >> On Jul 10, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> >>> On 2009-07-10 13:16:50 -0300, StÃ©phane Ducasse >>> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> said: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> I would love to have emacs like end of line and others. >>>> I remember that there were two keybinding frameworks working in >> >>>> Squeak. >>>> It would be great to rescue one and use it in pharo. >>>> Do you have any personal experience with that issue? >>>> >>>> Stef >>> >>> Well... Mars project was born because I was unable to properly >>> program >>> a cmd+w key with keybinder :P >>> but anyway, +1 to a good keybinder :) >> :-D >> What are the news from Mars? >> >> Stef >> >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Fwd: good keybinder

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi Stef, Mars was sleeping last two months, because job obligations took all my time. But is awake now, and I hope to make a new release very soon. Right now I'm migrating the code base from a hand-made pluging (MarsPlugin) to John's ObjectiveCBridge. This is taking some time because the VM still has some problems . So, for the moment, main work is: John made a change, I test it :). I hope this work is in the benefit of the community it self, so I'm not worried about the consumed time. When this job is done, I expect to release a new version, with same functionality as 0.1, but better callback events support. After that, all remaining work is not so hard, so I expect to have a stable (and complete) version for the end of the year. Cheers, Esteban pd: of course, all help is welcomed :) On 2009-07-11 03:33:20 -0300, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> said: > > On Jul 10, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> On 2009-07-10 13:16:50 -0300, StÃ©phane Ducasse >> <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> said: >> >>> >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I would love to have emacs like end of line and others. >>> I remember that there were two keybinding frameworks working in > >>> Squeak. >>> It would be great to rescue one and use it in pharo. >>> Do you have any personal experience with that issue? >>> >>> Stef >> >> Well... Mars project was born because I was unable to properly program >> a cmd+w key with keybinder :P >> but anyway, +1 to a good keybinder :) > :-D > What are the news from Mars? > > Stef > >> >> Esteban >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] sender speed up

by Adrian Lienhard

Thanks! I tried with browsing for senders of #== and my feeling is that it is at least one order of magnitude faster. Although the package information may be useful from time to time, its much better not having it because the costs are that high. Adrian On Jul 11, 2009, at 09:18 , StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > in 10376 I removed the package information from the sender item list. > MessageSet > Can you have a look if this is better? worth not having the > information? > > > > <MessageSet-methodDisplayStringForClassselector- > Package.st><MessageSet-methodDisplayStringForClassselector- > NoPackage.st> > > Stef_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo VM setup problem: where is pharo-vm-0.15.1b-linux source package available?

by Adrian Lienhard

Hi Mariano, I added you to the Pharo Google code project. Adrian On Jul 11, 2009, at 21:13 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > But I don't have permissions in google code wiki :( > > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:38 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr >> wrote: > >> we can use the wiki (or the inria crappy site :)) >> >> Stef >> >> On Jul 10, 2009, at 11:42 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> Stef: where should I put this type of things so that not to forget >>> it ? >>> >>> Google code seems not to have tickets that aren't bugs...or I don't >>> see them >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Mariano >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:23 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr >>>> wrote: >>> Thanks for the idea. >>> this would be nice to have a pointer to a forge for the vm code. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>>> Hi Mariano, >>>> >>>> I welcome your decision. More reasons: >>>> >>>> - Most linux distributions do not have a standard configuration. >>>> If you cannot go through the configuration/make/install cycle, a >>>> package may simply not run on a certain target system. >>>> If you cannot go through these cycles, your possibilities to fix >>>> that are very limited. >>>> >>>> - Without sources, consumers cannot directly contribute to the >>> defect >>>> tracking, fixing or development process >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Andreas >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mariano Martinez Peck schrieb: >>>>> I also think adding sources to Pharo webpage is a good idea. I saw >>>>> a lot of >>>>> people, who say "I wont use an enviorment in production that I >>>>> cannot have >>>>> the code and build it by myself". And I think they are correct! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Andreas Leidig < >> Andreas.Leidig(a)gmx.net >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear List, >>>>>> >>>>>> who has/where is pharo-vm-0.15.1b-linux source package? >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a setup problem which I think I can determine or even >>>>>> solve >>>>>> with >>>>>> the sources. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Andreas >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>> project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 12, 2009

[Pharo-project] Wiki responsible?

by Adrian Lienhard

Would anybody step up to be our wiki [1] responsible? The task would be to refactor from time to time the content and to make sure we don't accumulate garbage. The goal is to avoid getting into a state like the Squeak wiki. As an example, I just deleted a couple of 1 year old obsolete pages. Also, there is a proliferation of pages with notes on what could be done better in the future, e.g., http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ToDoBetterOnLongTerm http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/PlanToUse http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/BetterMop These pages should be merged. This task does not need a lot of time as our wiki is not big. Any taker? Cheers, Adrian [1] http://code.google.com/p/pharo/w/list ___________________ http://www.adrian-lienhard.ch/

July 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] apparently versions seems to be broken

by Alexandre Bergel

> Wow! I didn't know about this feature :( It is like the > "available" of VAST > Is there an example in SqueakByExample about it? If not, we can add > one :) > Or to PharoByExample! It would nice to have it working. Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

July 12, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [squeak-dev] pier 1.2

by Tudor Girba

Hi, On 11 Jul 2009, at 21:27, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Excellent news!!! > > What I a afraid when updating to this type of projects is that > perhaps there are a lot of external non-maintenance anymore packages > like pier-addons that don't work any more. > > In this version of Pier, did you change important core things? I > mean, pieraddons would probably work? Some things have changed in the core, but most of these changes are transparent, and most plugins should continue to work as before. Cheers, Doru > On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Milan Zimmermann <milan.zimmermann(a)sympatico.ca > > wrote: > Hi, > > I just tried - pier.sh should probably refer to pier.image instead of > Seaside.image. > > Milan > > On July 11, 2009, Tudor Girba wrote: > > Hi, > > > > We are happy to announce the release of Pier 1.2: > > http://www.piercms.com/download > > > > Whatâs new: > > - Mature value links (see http://www.piercms.com/doc/syntax for more > > details) > > - No _s or _k cruft in the url > > - Remembered last login > > - Smaller javascript code for faster page loading > > - Better default CSS (including a style for events) > > - Halos for enhanced editing > > - Pharo 0.1-10374 inside > > > > Enjoy and let us know what you think. > > > > Cheers, > > Lukas and Doru > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Yesterday is a fact. Tomorrow is a possibility. Today is a challenge."

July 12, 2009