July 2009 - Pharo-dev - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-project] Another Pharo wallpaper

by Esteban A. Maringolo

I didn't know there was a pharo wallpapers collection being built. Yeap, we have plenty lighthouses (Faro in spanish) in Argentina. "Les Eclaireus" is one of the prettiest. I grew up in a city with one, and used to go up and "climb" its 160 stairs to the top to see the seaside from very high, ironic isn't it? :). That's why I like the name of this project :) Some pictures of the pharo I took: http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=82539647@N00&q=Faro&m=text Others: http://www.descubriquequen.com.ar/faroquequen.htm Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo 2009/7/15 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > > But this is ARGENTINIAN!!!! > > As I am building a tourism website I am collecting pictures. I found one of a Pharo in a Argentinian province called "Tierra del Fuego". The pharo is known as "Faro Les Eclaireurs". > > I attach the picture. > > Best,

July 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Stef, In terms of response times, even with a lot of things turned off, I was still surprised at how long it takes to change from even one method to another. Anything past 0.2 sec (or whatever that threshold is) starts to add up; Pharo sometimes takes up to a second, which is _really_ shows up. Saving an image is not necessarily quick either, I _think_ particuarly on Linux?? Also, I get the sense the wait cursors are displayed, on Linux, for a smaller fraction of the down time than on Windows. Bill -----Original Message----- From: pharo-project-bounces(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr [mailto:pharo-project-bounces@lists.gforge.inria.fr] On Behalf Of StÃ©phane Ducasse Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 12:58 PM To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Hello all, > > I managed to create an install script; as I suspected would be case, > it was very anticlimactic. I tried creating a password-protected > directory under my personal web site, but that did not go well. The > authentication is weird, so it was probably asking a lot. A directory > repository worked. Good to know > Does Monticello/PackageInfo see a change in method category (aka > package) as a change to the package? normally it should. > It appears not, and it worries me a little in that it seems to make it > easy to lose work by forgetting to save it. Do any of you script > saving your packages? you can check in ScriptLoader to see how we compute the packages that changed (not only dirty but also new packages) > The results are untested at present, but I used SIF to transfer a fair > amount of code into Pharo. To cope with the naming of the ODBC > classes, I ended up doing things like Smalltalk at:#DBConnection > put:ODBCConnection, and that worked out nicely, at least AFAICT at > this stage. SIF finally ended up complaining about running out of > items when processing the last file. I reserve the right to later > report that it was a miserable failure, but it looks like I most of > the code imported. > > Using the standard tools, the w2k theme, disabling faded backgrounds > and enabling fast drag, performance on an older Linux system is ok > (more or less). There are still things that take too long, like what? > and Pharo's responses are no better (sometimes worse) than even > software running over a remote desktop connection. We need a speed > boost, but judicious settings help a little. > > Is there a way to disable the anti-aliased fonts? In fairness, I > should try turning that off to see if any speed boost is worth the > price. > > Bill > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 15, 2009

[Pharo-project] Another Pharo wallpaper

by Mariano Martinez Peck

But this is ARGENTINIAN!!!! As I am building a tourism website I am collecting pictures. I found one of a Pharo in a Argentinian province called "Tierra del Fuego". The pharo is known as "Faro Les Eclaireurs". I attach the picture. Best, Mariano

July 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

by Lukas Renggli

> Does Monticello/PackageInfo see a change in method category (aka package) as a change to the package? Â It appears not, and it worries me a little in that it seems to make it easy to lose work by forgetting to save it. The MCWorkingCopy class is notified about changes in the system and marks the involved packages as dirty. Normally that works well. > Do any of you script saving your packages? In Seaside 2.9 consists of 72 packages. In the class WADevelopment we created a couple of scripts to update, diff, merge and commit all packages at once. Cheers, Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch

July 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 15, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote: > Hello all, > > I managed to create an install script; as I suspected would be case, > it was very anticlimactic. I tried creating a password-protected > directory under my personal web site, but that did not go well. The > authentication is weird, so it was probably asking a lot. A > directory repository worked. Good to know > Does Monticello/PackageInfo see a change in method category (aka > package) as a change to the package? normally it should. > It appears not, and it worries me a little in that it seems to make > it easy to lose work by forgetting to save it. Do any of you script > saving your packages? you can check in ScriptLoader to see how we compute the packages that changed (not only dirty but also new packages) > The results are untested at present, but I used SIF to transfer a > fair amount of code into Pharo. To cope with the naming of the ODBC > classes, I ended up doing things like Smalltalk at:#DBConnection > put:ODBCConnection, and that worked out nicely, at least AFAICT at > this stage. SIF finally ended up complaining about running out of > items when processing the last file. I reserve the right to later > report that it was a miserable failure, but it looks like I most of > the code imported. > > Using the standard tools, the w2k theme, disabling faded backgrounds > and enabling fast drag, performance on an older Linux system is ok > (more or less). There are still things that take too long, like what? > and Pharo's responses are no better (sometimes worse) than even > software running over a remote desktop connection. We need a speed > boost, but judicious settings help a little. > > Is there a way to disable the anti-aliased fonts? In fairness, I > should try turning that off to see if any speed boost is worth the > price. > > Bill > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

July 15, 2009

[Pharo-project] [ANN] 10378-10379

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

- Menu fixes - Issue 348: UIManager enhacements 2 Thanks pavel Stef

July 15, 2009

[Pharo-project] Making some progress, and a few observations

by Schwab,Wilhelm K

Hello all, I managed to create an install script; as I suspected would be case, it was very anticlimactic. I tried creating a password-protected directory under my personal web site, but that did not go well. The authentication is weird, so it was probably asking a lot. A directory repository worked. Does Monticello/PackageInfo see a change in method category (aka package) as a change to the package? It appears not, and it worries me a little in that it seems to make it easy to lose work by forgetting to save it. Do any of you script saving your packages? The results are untested at present, but I used SIF to transfer a fair amount of code into Pharo. To cope with the naming of the ODBC classes, I ended up doing things like Smalltalk at:#DBConnection put:ODBCConnection, and that worked out nicely, at least AFAICT at this stage. SIF finally ended up complaining about running out of items when processing the last file. I reserve the right to later report that it was a miserable failure, but it looks like I most of the code imported. Using the standard tools, the w2k theme, disabling faded backgrounds and enabling fast drag, performance on an older Linux system is ok (more or less). There are still things that take too long, and Pharo's responses are no better (sometimes worse) than even software running over a remote desktop connection. We need a speed boost, but judicious settings help a little. Is there a way to disable the anti-aliased fonts? In fairness, I should try turning that off to see if any speed boost is worth the price. Bill

July 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] [ANN] Algernon now available in Pharo

by Mariano Martinez Peck

EXCELLENT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No more excuses to use Squeak hahaha I love Algernon. My vote: 9999 x 10^ 9999 to be in Pharo Please, give a try. AND read the README. We are not use to do that, but it is very useful!!! Best, Mariano On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, > I uploaded a new version of Algernon, now working with Pharo. > The changes I introduced were: > -changed the updating system: now it is automatic, but just when > Algernon is shown (this will make a little bit slower the showing of > Algernon, but preserves you from need to press cmd+r to refresh the > system -who after all, everybody I know does every time-). > -using #beginsWith: instead deprecated #startsWith: > -using #fileOutCategory: instead non-existing #fileOutCategory:asHtml: > > You will need latest changes of Pharo (Stef fix to TextMorph), and > execute this script to have Algernon on your system: > > ScriptLoader new installingUniverse. "In case you don't have already > Universes installed" > Installer universe > addPackage: 'Algernon'; > answer: '*' with: false; > install. > Installer ss project: 'Algernon'; install: 'Algernon'. > Installer wiresong project: 'ob'; install: 'OB-Algernon'. > Algernon open. > > Cheers, > Esteban > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

July 15, 2009

Re: [Pharo-project] WAKom

by Robert Sirois

Yea, that's correct. Now (running Seaside 2.9a3) I get this on localhost: '[closure] in WATableTag(WATagBrush)>>with:' RS > Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:55:50 +0200 > From: m.rueger(a)acm.org > To: Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] WAKom > > Robert Sirois wrote: > > > > WAKom doesn't work in Pharo? I believe I have the correct image and VM: > > > > I'm getting the following from 'WAKom startOn: 9050': > > > > 'BlockClosure(Object)>>doesNotUnderstand: #newProcessWithBindings:' > > You might be missing the dynamic binding package (not sure about the > exact name). > > Michael > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _________________________________________________________________ Lauren found her dream laptop. Find the PC thatâs right for you. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/choosepc/?ocid=ftp_val_wl_290

July 15, 2009

[Pharo-project] [ANN] Algernon now available in Pharo

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi, I uploaded a new version of Algernon, now working with Pharo. The changes I introduced were: -changed the updating system: now it is automatic, but just when Algernon is shown (this will make a little bit slower the showing of Algernon, but preserves you from need to press cmd+r to refresh the system -who after all, everybody I know does every time-). -using #beginsWith: instead deprecated #startsWith: -using #fileOutCategory: instead non-existing #fileOutCategory:asHtml: You will need latest changes of Pharo (Stef fix to TextMorph), and execute this script to have Algernon on your system: ScriptLoader new installingUniverse. "In case you don't have already Universes installed" Installer universe addPackage: 'Algernon'; answer: '*' with: false; install. Installer ss project: 'Algernon'; install: 'Algernon'. Installer wiresong project: 'ob'; install: 'OB-Algernon'. Algernon open. Cheers, Esteban

July 15, 2009